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Title: 5S378 on Second Daily Classics
Post by: silverton_ford on January 29, 2018, 04:26:42 PM
Here is another online auction company called Second Daily Classics.  Nice appealing site.  It looks very similar to Bring A Trailer.

5S378 is up for auction right now. 

Here is the link: https://seconddaily.com/daily-gear/1965-shelby-gt350-378/ (https://seconddaily.com/daily-gear/1965-shelby-gt350-378/)

Auction Description:
Model History
Nearly 53 years to the day, Carroll Shelby and the Ford Motor Co. released the first GT350 to the world. It was nearly 8 months earlier that Henry Ford II debuted the first Mustang at the World's Fair in Flushing Meadows, NY. Literally within hours, over 20,000 units were sold across the U.S. Ford would go on to sell over 400,000 Mustangs in the first year alone. Fearing a 'Mustang Bubble', Ford didn't want to the lose this momentum they had created. So what else could they do except call in the big guns for help from racing legend, former collaborator and Texan...Mr. Carroll Shelby.

The soon-to-be Shelbys began life as a regular Ford Mustang, produced on regular production lines, but were assembled without hoods, grilles, rear seats, exhaust systems, or emblems. They reused familiar parts including a Borg-Warner close-ratio four-speed, a Detroit Locker differential, 11-inch front disc brakes, larger drums at the rear and special bracing under the hood.

The cars arrived at Shelby-American's Los Angeles facility with stock 289-inch V8's pushing out 271hp. Soon though the modifications came...cast-aluminum oil pan and valve covers, tri-Y headers, glasspack side exhausts, and a rather thirsty 715-cfm Holley four-barrel on a Cobra aluminum intake. An open-element air cleaner was ducted to the fiberglass hood scoop. Engine output after the modifications was now bumped up to 306hp and 0-60 mph times came in just under 7 seconds, the quarter-mile at 15 flat and top speed was close to 135 mph. Only 562 GT350's were made in the first year...all numbered sequentially and signed by the man himself.

Car History
Second Daily is proud to present #378 of the first run of the 1965 GT350. This car is fully documented in the registry and has been with the same owner for over 20 years. Documented as 5S378 in the registry, this '65 Mustang arrived at Shelby American on May 12, 1965. Work began a few weeks later and was completed on June 9, 1965. Harr Motor Co. ordered #378 on July 8 and received it 4 days later. The invoice stated $3547 base price for the GT350, Crager wheels (+$214), and freight totaling $3864.90. The very first original owner in the public is unknown but did register it in Massachusetts. It was traded back to Harr and purchased by Rick Ringgard of Auburn, MA on November 21, 1967. In the summer of 1968, #378 was on a trailer when the tow vehicle was involved in an accident. 5S378 suffered some front end damage from that incident, and upon repair was painted in red with white stripes to match the team racing colors of the time. Over the next 35 years, it would exchange a few hands and ultimately land in Colorado with 56,565 miles in 2002 with its current owner, and avid collector and aficionado of all things Shelby.

5S378 now presents in its original color scheme. It is a numbers matching, original engine and transmission, authentic GT350. Partial proceeds from the sale of this car will benefit the Social Services branch in Chattanooga, TN whose mission is to support those with food and clothing needs.

Exterior
Number 378 wears its original color scheme today in correct Wimbledon White with Guardsman Blue stripes and rocker panel stripes. In the '60's it was converted to match the team racing colors at the time. The conversion back to original is of high quality. Common on these is the slight misalignment in the fiberglass hood. The side pipes exiting just in front of the Crager wheels round out the originality.

Interior
Inside, your first glance is to the autographed glove box just to the right of the oversized tachometer. No tears or excessive wear can be seen on the seats. The original Shelby steering wheel is still intact. The missing driver side window trim is not installed but is included with the sale. The original plaid trunk liner is still intact.

Estimated Value
As with many of the cars we feature, proper valuing is difficult given the low production volume and the rarity of examples going to market, compounded by the wide-range of examples and conditions you may find. This is a first year GT350, 1 of only 562 ever made. They rarely come up for sale, and when they do, they hammer north of $400k typically. Please keep in mind when making valuations, this one retains all of it original drivetrain and is numbers matching in all the correct places. 1965 was the first year, and 1969 was the last...today we offer a very special opportunity to own a piece of American muscle car history.

Sample of Recent Mecum Results

1965 SHELBY GT350 FASTBACK #277 – $575,000
1965 SHELBY GT350 FASTBACK #391 – $385,000
1965 SHELBY GT350 FASTBACK #411 – $450,000
1965 GT350 Mustang Production Figures

The production run started in late December 1964 and was finished by July 9, 1965.

1       Street Prototype for 1965       003
11       Advanced Pre-Production Prototypes       004 – 014
3       Shelby Hi-Performance School cars       021, 029, 451
4       Drag Cars       207, 327, 351 ,360
2       Prototypes for 1966 GT350       200, 319
1       Paxton Supercharger Prototype       425
2       Competition Prototypes-Factory       001, 002
504       Street Production Models (Including 7 P.R., 6 Company cars)
34       Factory Competition Race Models
562       Total Production Run for the 1965 GT350 Mustang
Bid Now and Drive Fun Daily.
Title: Re: 5S378 on Second Daily Classics
Post by: Bigfoot on January 29, 2018, 07:49:24 PM
Looks pretty nice.
I think an overall engine bay shot (the whole thing) would be nice.
Unless I missed it.
Title: Re: 5S378 on Second Daily Classics
Post by: GT350Lad on January 30, 2018, 12:24:34 AM
Looks nice, currently 101k
Agree engine bay shot would be nice
Title: Re: 5S378 on Second Daily Classics
Post by: 5s386 on February 02, 2018, 09:18:49 PM
Current Bid is $200K      This will be interesting....
Title: Re: 5S378 on Second Daily Classics
Post by: silverton_ford on February 02, 2018, 09:28:18 PM
Quote from: 5s386 on February 02, 2018, 09:18:49 PM
Current Bid is $200K      This will be interesting....

Wow, 47 minutes left.

Seems like a bad night to end the auction.  I would assume a lot of people are not sitting at their computer on a Friday night....but maybe so.  We will see.


If I could read......  47 hours, not minutes.  Ok, I need to slow down and read sometimes. 
Title: Re: 5S378 on Second Daily Classics
Post by: sfm5 on February 02, 2018, 09:47:25 PM
Where did the popcorn symbol go  ;D
Title: Re: 5S378 on Second Daily Classics
Post by: GT350Lad on February 02, 2018, 11:02:33 PM
Quote from: sfm5 on February 02, 2018, 09:47:25 PM
Where did the popcorn symbol go  ;D

Exactly.. priorities  :)
Title: Re: 5S378 on Second Daily Classics
Post by: silverton_ford on February 05, 2018, 07:24:22 PM
They extended the auction 24 hours because the football game yesterday.  Not much bidding action so far with 1.5 hours to go.

Looks like they added a picture of the engine bay.



Title: Re: 5S378 on Second Daily Classics
Post by: sfm5 on February 05, 2018, 09:09:48 PM
A flurry of last minute bids got it up to $305K. No indication whether the car sold, met reserve? Would be well bought at $305 IMHO...
Title: Re: 5S378 on Second Daily Classics
Post by: Greg on February 06, 2018, 08:15:08 AM
It didn't meet the reserve.  I spoke with the owner he said that the car was from the Northeast and he had it restored.  It had rust and some of the sheet metal had to be replaced but it appears to be a nice car.  I know he wanted more but the $305K not including the auction fee IMHO is a fair price.
Title: Re: 5S378 on Second Daily Classics
Post by: silverton_ford on February 06, 2018, 08:59:36 AM
Now it is on Ebay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/192447958220?ul_noapp=true (https://www.ebay.com/itm/192447958220?ul_noapp=true)
Title: Re: 5S378 on Second Daily Classics
Post by: terlingua11 on February 06, 2018, 09:22:55 AM
Buy it now. $365K
Title: Re: 5S378 on Second Daily Classics
Post by: stephen_becker on February 06, 2018, 02:43:04 PM
According to the written text the car had been in a front end collision - SGB
Title: Re: 5S378 on Second Daily Classics
Post by: A-Snake on February 06, 2018, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: terlingua11 on February 06, 2018, 09:22:55 AM
Buy it now. $365K

BIN changed to $385K
Title: Re: 5S378 on Second Daily Classics
Post by: Bigfoot on February 06, 2018, 06:39:16 PM
No possible way to determine if well priced or good deal or whatever unless inspected.
Anyone seen it
Title: Re: 5S378 on Second Daily Classics
Post by: 5s386 on February 06, 2018, 08:49:28 PM
Was on Ebay in 2006 in Colorado, and plenty of pictures.
Title: Re: 5S378 on Second Daily Classics
Post by: Shelby_r_b on February 06, 2018, 10:54:30 PM
Quote from: A-Snake on February 06, 2018, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: terlingua11 on February 06, 2018, 09:22:55 AM
Buy it now. $365K

BIN changed to $385K

Well, that makes sense.  It didn't meet the reserve on the other site, so I'll jack up the price after reposting...twice.   ::)

BTW - after reading the eBay listing...how does one complete a "sympathetic" restoration?  Does this involve a good friend with skill who takes pity on you as the owner?  :P
Title: Re: 5S378 on Second Daily Classics
Post by: Bob Gaines on February 06, 2018, 11:16:47 PM
Quote from: Shelby_0022 on February 06, 2018, 10:54:30 PM
Quote from: A-Snake on February 06, 2018, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: terlingua11 on February 06, 2018, 09:22:55 AM
Buy it now. $365K

BIN changed to $385K

Well, that makes sense.  It didn't meet the reserve on the other site, so I'll jack up the price after reposting...twice.   ::)

BTW - after reading the eBay listing...how does one complete a "sympathetic" restoration?  Does this involve a good friend with skill who takes pity on you as the owner?  :P
No, it most likely means that on lookers after a closer look take pity on the restoration job. ;)
Title: Re: 5S378 on Second Daily Classics
Post by: J_Speegle on February 06, 2018, 11:51:25 PM
Quote from: Shelby_0022 on February 06, 2018, 10:54:30 PM
BTW - after reading the eBay listing...how does one complete a "sympathetic" restoration?  ............................  :P

Might be a west coast or enlightened thing where you don't speak poorly of the car in its presence.

Terms like cutting, yanking, tossing, removing and such are not used in relationship to it's restoration.

Continue to remind the vehicle and yourself  that your sorry that its come to this, your only trying to help, your doing your best to extend its useful life and so on.......... Be reassuring    ::)
Title: Re: 5S378 on Second Daily Classics
Post by: 2112 on February 07, 2018, 01:43:38 AM
Jokes aside, I think a "sympathetic restoration" means new paint, maybe some rebuilding of mechanical systems, but not a total disassembly, rotisserie type, full systems touched restoration.

Title: Re: 5S378 on Second Daily Classics
Post by: Shelby_r_b on February 07, 2018, 07:00:40 AM
Quote from: 2112 on February 07, 2018, 01:43:38 AM
Jokes aside, I think a "sympathetic restoration" means new paint, maybe some rebuilding of mechanical systems, but not a total disassembly, rotisserie type, full systems touched restoration.

You're probably right. And, Jeff and Bob's responses were quite entertaining!  ;D

I now have a sympathetic appreciation for the car.
Title: Re: 5S378 on Second Daily Classics
Post by: mark p on February 07, 2018, 12:00:24 PM
Quote from: J_Speegle on February 06, 2018, 11:51:25 PM
Quote from: Shelby_0022 on February 06, 2018, 10:54:30 PM
BTW - after reading the eBay listing...how does one complete a "sympathetic" restoration?  ............................  :P

Might be a west coast or enlightened thing where you don't speak poorly of the car in its presence.

Terms like cutting, yanking, tossing, removing and such are not used in relationship to it's restoration.

Continue to remind the vehicle and yourself  that your sorry that its come to this, your only trying to help, your doing your best to extend its useful life and so on.......... Be reassuring    ::)

^^^^  :) ;D ::) great translation - Thanks!