https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-shelby-mustang-gt500kr-20/?utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Model_Update
A little rusty?
This is being sold by Dennis Collins?
Pat
Yes
The exterior aside, Why would you not recondition the engine bay aprons before engine reinstallation? Is this done for effect or budget shortfall?
So tell me is this car a survivor like the posters( not the seller) keep saying it is? Only original once blah blah blah. I've owned true survivors and a good friend has a few true survivors right now. When you repaint the whole underside including parts and areas that never got primer. Add a DNO drive shaft and such is it still a survivor? I'd say no but want done input on this.
I would think a survivor would be untouched except for necessary mechanical upkeep and cleaning. I would presume to be an unrestored #1 car with much patina throughout.
Hes a used car salesman
Quote from: azdriver on March 03, 2026, 07:18:52 PMThis is being sold by Dennis Collins?
Pat
Owned by Dennis? Must be the "Holy Grail"............
Looks like it was hit hard in the left front. Picture of the left front suspension shows the inner fender apron wrinkled really bad. Also wonder how long the fuel line will stay up missing most of the retainers on the floor and axle vent stretched so bad its rear to rip. Both lower rear 1/4's were blended in and the left had the lower section replaced.
Shouldn't there be some Lime Gold Overspray on the Floor Pans, it looks to Brown.
Were you expecting a concours restoration from a flipper?
If so, we could spend a couple hours judging the car
However my first glance tells me we are missing a few parts.
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 04, 2026, 07:37:54 AMWere you expecting a concours restoration from a flipper?
If so, we could spend a couple hours judging the car
However my first glance tells me we are missing a few parts.
And many incorrect build details on the restored aspects
This just looks like a neglected, rusty, piece of junk. How BaT could label this a "Premium" auction is a travesty.
"the underside was coated in red oxide primer." right over the clearly visible severe pitting across the underbody! maybe this is more of the "Survivor patina"....lol
The "Premium" doesn't refer to the quality/uniqueness of the car, it's the level of BaT listing the seller signed up for.
Maybe someone will correct me, but arent "premium" listings paid for?
A better question is Hanta Virus insurance included?
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 04, 2026, 05:41:55 AMHes a used car salesman
+1 ... You can trust D/C, he's not like the others! ::)
Fred
Don't know him personally, only from his videos.
People seem to forget he is in the game to make money, nothing else.
Nothing wrong with that, just recognize it
Yes, I forgot, everything has a price at BaT, so anyone can pay extra to get a "Premium" listing. But this one is one of the worst I have seen. But who knows what people want to spend money on, I was amazed at this piece of a body that sold for $70,000.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1963-chevrolet-corvette-coupe-192/?utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Model_Update
Anything is possible.
Per the premium auction question. You can not pay or directly ask to be a premium auction, BAT will ask you and you can accept or deny (unsure if an additional fee is associated with it but I would assume so). I assume with bigger sellers however deals are worked out ahead of time and sellers know what will be premium or not with their BAT Concierge.
Quote from: Hipo-Fred on March 04, 2026, 10:51:31 AMQuote from: Coralsnake on March 04, 2026, 09:53:17 AMDon't know him personally, only from his videos.
People seem to forget he is in the game to make money, nothing else.
Nothing wrong with that, just recognize it
Yes Pete, understood and agree. At first, I mistakenly believed it was all about discovering and uncovering Shelbys that had otherwise gone under the radar, but soon realized that it was all about making money. And as you said, "nothing wrong with that" ... not surprising, just kinda disappointing.
Fred
... and a "bit" of parading ego too!
Those whom are active bidders, still in the running at this point are idiots, or just flippers that figure there's always someone else whom can be duped! This "survivor", had to be "doctored up" on the bottom side as otherwise the "shade-of-rust", on everything, would have had one wondering if the vehicle actually had survived! :o
Scott.
Here we go again all the Shelby experts gotta get there 2 cents in.
Your coments are just like on bring a trailer. Everyone has to chime in. Who cares your probably not a player to purchase it. Like or Hate Dennis people reach out to him and not you, why is that? Hes brought alot of cars back into the hobby that would be just left to rot. His videos are for entertainment, except them for that and nothing more or dont watch them.
Its just sad everytime a car is listed somewhere all the experts on here come out to bash it, thinking your doing the hobby a favor.
*you're*
*a lot*
I will play 1968 Shelby trivia with Mr Collins any day.
Not sure who you're directing your comments towards, just a friendly discussion here.
No one is forcing anyone to participate.
If you want to be a fanboy you can.
How much of a head start will you give "Mr.Holy Grail"...Pete???.... ::)
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 04, 2026, 02:14:21 PM*you're*
*a lot*
I will play Shelby trivia with Mr Collins anyday.
Not sure who you're directing your comments towards, just a friendly discussion here.
No one is forcing anyone to participate.
I would like to watch that.
"You guys don't know anything compared to Dennis"
"If you did you would have known about these cars before he did."
Oh, wait....people actually do reach out to some of us. 🤔
(https://www.saac.com/forum/gallery/8-040326161055.jpeg)
(https://www.saac.com/forum/gallery/8-040326161141.jpeg)
He is not really "finding" a lot of these cars. Let me know if you need some more examples?
Pro tip: SAAC forum is where the real Shelby experts are, not self promoting on the youtube.
Well, I have to admit I just don't get the attraction of a rust bucket like this. I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot barge pole and a full hazmat suit.
Quote from: Mikelj5S230 on March 04, 2026, 06:46:06 PMWell, I have to admit I just don't get the attraction of a rust bucket like this. I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot barge pole and a full hazmat suit.
Hey Mike
I see the rust Amigo
You still have ur KR?
Quote from: Nova68 on March 04, 2026, 02:08:37 PMHere we go again all the Shelby experts gotta get there 2 cents in. Your coments are just like on bring a trailer. Everyone has to chime in. Who cares your probably not a player to purchase it. Its just sad everytime a car is listed somewhere all the experts on here come out to bash it, thinking your doing the hobby a favor.
Yeah, that 'is' the purpose of a specialized forum, where participants are here to share knowledge, insight and comment of and on the particular subject matter relevant. And if one were a "serious player", what I'd hope for 'is' some critical commenting from the "experts", at least those whom might be more knowledgeable (which in my case probably is most anyone ::) ) and or just more observant. I have no need for those just bantering about what a great car it is (might be), not really knowing of what they speak, the individuals doing the selling generally provide adequately here. And this particularly like many in the peanut gallery on B.A.T., whom also aren't "players" either, rather just "wanna-feel-good" posting noise makers ;)
QuoteLike or Hate Dennis people reach out to him and not you, why is that?
If this is actually a question to the forum expecting a response? Well to me, he's just another "used car salesman", which generally means, in order for him to do business, if selling, your going to be offered something less than what it's worth in the marketplace, and if buying, your going to have to pay more than knowledgeable others thought it was worth! Which 'is' all O.K. just as long as everyone understands we 'are' doing business, and we're not pals and your really not doing me any favors. ::)
QuoteHes brought alot of cars back into the hobby that would be just left to rot. His videos are for entertainment, except them for that and nothing more or dont watch them.
Your quite the standard bearer for him and/or his videos. But do you really think "he's brought a lot of cars back that would otherwise . . . . ."? And I'll admit, there is "some" information being presented that proves interesting, perhaps we'll say, most being accurate and useful, but the density of this is too low, and the video drags on too long, with just too much dribble, leading anyone, but the absolute novice, to become bored and choose to turn away from it. ;D
But then, that's what successful u-tube videos are are about, "views", and appealing to the (ignorant) masses, whom wish to be just "entertained", will get you more hits! :o
Scott.
Quote from: Bigfoot on March 04, 2026, 08:08:57 PMHey Mike
I see the rust Amigo
You still have ur KR?
I don't Biggy, sold it several years ago.
Quote from: pbf777 on March 04, 2026, 08:33:39 PMQuote from: Nova68 on March 04, 2026, 02:08:37 PMHere we go again all the Shelby experts gotta get there 2 cents in. Your coments are just like on bring a trailer. Everyone has to chime in. Who cares your probably not a player to purchase it. Its just sad everytime a car is listed somewhere all the experts on here come out to bash it, thinking your doing the hobby a favor.
Yeah, that 'is' the purpose of a specialized forum, where participants are here to share knowledge, insight and comment of and on the particular subject matter relevant. And if one were a "serious player", what I'd hope for 'is' some critical commenting from the "experts", at least those whom might be more knowledgeable (which in my case probably is most anyone ::) ) and or just more observant. I have no need for those just bantering about what a great car it is (might be), not really knowing of what they speak, the individuals doing the selling generally provide adequately here. And this particularly like many in the peanut gallery on B.A.T., whom also aren't "players" either, rather just "wanna-feel-good" posting noise makers ;)
QuoteLike or Hate Dennis people reach out to him and not you, why is that?
If this is actually a question to the forum expecting a response? Well to me, he's just another "used car salesman", which generally means, in order for him to do business, if selling, your going to be offered something less than what it's worth in the marketplace, and if buying, your going to have to pay more than knowledgeable others thought it was worth! Which 'is' all O.K. just as long as everyone understands we 'are' doing business, and we're not pals and your really not doing me any favors. ::)
QuoteHes brought alot of cars back into the hobby that would be just left to rot. His videos are for entertainment, except them for that and nothing more or dont watch them.
Your quite the standard bearer for him and/or his videos. But do you really think "he's brought a lot of cars back that would otherwise . . . . ."? And I'll admit, there is "some" information being presented that proves interesting, perhaps we'll say, most being accurate and useful, but the density of this is too low, and the video drags on too long, with just too much dribble, leading anyone, but the absolute novice, to become bored and choose to turn away from it. ;D
But then, that's what successful u-tube videos are are about, "views", and appealing to the (ignorant) masses, whom wish to be just "entertained", will get you more hits! :o
Scott.
+1 - Thank you for posting this ;-)
Quote from: pbf777 on March 04, 2026, 08:33:39 PMQuote from: Nova68 on March 04, 2026, 02:08:37 PMHere we go again all the Shelby experts gotta get there 2 cents in. Your coments are just like on bring a trailer. Everyone has to chime in. Who cares your probably not a player to purchase it. Its just sad everytime a car is listed somewhere all the experts on here come out to bash it, thinking your doing the hobby a favor.
Yeah, that 'is' the purpose of a specialized forum, where participants are here to share knowledge, insight and comment of and on the particular subject matter relevant. And if one were a "serious player", what I'd hope for 'is' some critical commenting from the "experts", at least those whom might be more knowledgeable (which in my case probably is most anyone ::) ) and or just more observant. I have no need for those just bantering about what a great car it is (might be), not really knowing of what they speak, the individuals doing the selling generally provide adequately here. And this particularly like many in the peanut gallery on B.A.T., whom also aren't "players" either, rather just "wanna-feel-good" posting noise makers ;)
QuoteLike or Hate Dennis people reach out to him and not you, why is that?
If this is actually a question to the forum expecting a response? Well to me, he's just another "used car salesman", which generally means, in order for him to do business, if selling, your going to be offered something less than what it's worth in the marketplace, and if buying, your going to have to pay more than knowledgeable others thought it was worth! Which 'is' all O.K. just as long as everyone understands we 'are' doing business, and we're not pals and your really not doing me any favors. ::)
QuoteHes brought alot of cars back into the hobby that would be just left to rot. His videos are for entertainment, except them for that and nothing more or dont watch them.
Your quite the standard bearer for him and/or his videos. But do you really think "he's brought a lot of cars back that would otherwise . . . . ."? And I'll admit, there is "some" information being presented that proves interesting, perhaps we'll say, most being accurate and useful, but the density of this is too low, and the video drags on too long, with just too much dribble, leading anyone, but the absolute novice, to become bored and choose to turn away from it. ;D
But then, that's what successful u-tube videos are are about, "views", and appealing to the (ignorant) masses, whom wish to be just "entertained", will get you more hits! :o
Scott.
+1 . Very rational and non confrontational comments. Just the way it is.
We could turn up the heat ?
Bids keep going up.... Looks like its going to be a good one....
Pat
I have said it before BaT is modern day Dutch tulip bulb madness
Red kr fastback auto just sold at amilia island 265 barn fresh.
As I stated elsewhere: "Fools and their money soon part!" ::)
And boy does "Dennis" have a following, it's beginning to present a little like a "cult" following! :o
Scott.
A friend of mine bought the 67 390 4speed fastback mustang that was in a field featured on his show.
I would love to see what the floors look like without the rugs in place.
The floors on the KR? Most of the original floor has been replaced. Well, except where the holes are.
Its not even original paint, but don't tell them that.
Can we name this cult?
Quote from: Sfm6sxxx on March 10, 2026, 03:37:48 PMI would love to see what the floors look like without the rugs in place.
Just look from below - that will provide some insight and other evidence of repair, reattachment and replacement in a number of areas.
I got flagged after reading all the "I hope the new owner drives it" comments
I posted
"I hope the new owner doesn't get an incurable disease"
Seriously, it needs to be gutted
🤣
I threw a " fun fact" out there that original Shelby fiberglass under the topside paint has gray primer. Look at the hood paint flaking off and Red primer on it. Fender apron crunched pretty good so some say they are only original once? How much is original on this car
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 10, 2026, 05:05:29 PMI got flagged after reading all the "I hope the new owner drives it" comments
That's O.K., don't feel bad, I'm not even going to try to comment on that P.O.S., as I know, since all of my submitted comments already are routinely being held for "special attention" (review by the B.A.T. staff) before being actually posted on the site, that none of anything I might comment of would make it through! :o
Particularly as B.A.T. has gotten more aggressive at weeding out the "stick-in-the-mud" type comments; but personally, I wish they'd try to make their site more informative and professional, this meaning that they "should" be weeding out all of the stupid "Rah-Rah", "I remember when . . . .", and the rest of the "inane comments" that actually are "not constructive" to the process, that is unless your just a non-bidding simpleton commenter looking for "thumbs-up" likes from others alike! ::)
Scott.
Was the snake on the fenders ever that far away from "Cobra Jet 428"?
If not, what's that tell us ... that it's been repainted?
If you look at the inner fender apron, front left it is heavily damaged. There is no way that panel could be damaged without damaging outside metal and fiberglass parts. The hood has red oxide primer on it, which is an indication it has been resprayed. The fender emblems and stripes are not correct. The stripes have the wrong font. The emblems are in the wrong locations. The lower valence is not mounted correctly. There appears to be a missing power steering oil cooler. That is normally mounted on the radiator support. Someone left it off. The blackout on the hood is painted (not a decal)
Add all those up and you get: hit hard and repaired. On the plus side the fenders and fiberglass look like original parts. So it most likely happened early.
Im sure a closer look would reveal a lot more
Thank you Pete.
Scott
Being in the sun all day at Ft Meyers beach I probably wasn't thinking when I couldn't help myself and rebutted jag1964's stupid comment. I have bit my tongue long enough on all those butt kissing know nothing posters. To say this car would be more popular at a SAAC event than a " perfect" restored car( well the poster said a 350k resto which if anyone spent that much would be a perfect car) is one of the dumbest comments I have seen on bat as mist SAAC members would walk right by this rodent infested car as to not inhale anything.
This is going to a famous car, I wont forget it for a while.
Illustrative of so much. Its really fun to watch.
Not to mention, the Widow Chaser Fan Boys are out in force.
So a guy can keep bashing Pete. I try and post and it doesn't take. Tried to post again and this is what I get. More proof BAT is a joke. I'm back on their radar.
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on March 11, 2026, 12:22:07 PMSo a guy can keep bashing Pete. I try and post and it doesn't take. Tried to post again and this is what I get. More proof BAT is a joke. I'm back on their radar.
Yes, I am also not allowed to post lately, on most any car, including Corvettes. I have bought 4 cars on BaT, and sold 4 through my friend. But I am not allowed my opinion either.
Apparently some people (not me) are able to ....
Very telling
It's great seeing many messages supporting you Pete.
('hope you feel the love of many, and not the venom (get it? ;-) from one person.)
I'm pretty sure that I saw another (BaT-directed) comment from TommyBruin show up momentarily and then get removed completely, without it showing as non-constructive.
Good to see that BaT let the comment stay that highlighted issues with the car.
Quote from: Mikelj5S230 on March 11, 2026, 12:38:16 PMQuote from: shelbymann1970 on March 11, 2026, 12:22:07 PMSo a guy can keep bashing Pete. I try and post and it doesn't take. Tried to post again and this is what I get. More proof BAT is a joke. I'm back on their radar.
Yes, I am also not allowed to post lately, on most any car, including Corvettes. I have bought 4 cars on BaT, and sold 4 through my friend. But I am not allowed my opinion either.
i got a good friend named Tommy Bruin who has won 14 auctions and bid over 400 times and bat suspends him too often. He even called them and when he talked face to face they lifted his suspension. They do not cater to buyers but sellers even though it's the buyers they make their money from. Like I said BAT is a joke and it is their game. Known preferred sellers can get ridiculous reserves and I've know too many who the first time selling bat wanted a ridiculously low reserve or no reserve at all. They declined but bat has so many to take their place. I'll step away again for a while.
Quote from: thinkshelby on March 11, 2026, 01:52:02 PMIt's great seeing many messages supporting you Pete.
('hope you feel the love of many, and not the venom (get it? ;-) from one person.)
I'm pretty sure that I saw another (BaT-directed) comment from TommyBruin show up momentarily and then get removed completely, without it showing as non-constructive.
Good to see that BaT let the comment stay that highlighted issues with the car.
I had a few more but BAT wouldn't post them .
Im fine, hopefully some people see more of what shelbyman is saying.
I used to think they were somewhat objective but that is no longer the case
Wont be using or recommending them for that reason.
FWIW, I have my own DC story related to the '69 Mach I I bought on BAT. Buyer beware if DC is involved at all.
Would love to hear that
Coralsnake68@hotmail.com
Quote from: asrassoc on March 11, 2026, 02:34:16 PMFWIW, I have my own DC story related to the '69 Mach I I bought on BAT. Buyer beware if DC is involved at all.
I would also love to hear it and can be reached in my profile email address.
What is frustrating with BAT is that balance of protecting the hobby and being honest and not negatively affecting an auction. So you have a lot of ass slapping there with false facts and labeling cars for what they are not. No car is perfect so I will not nit pick a car but decline to do it even though I see it all the time on bat . If a seller isn't saying concours gold and has a nice driver why do people nit pick it like it is being judged? I've said this before if a seller says 100 percent original metal and my eyes say different I will correct the seller. If he doesn't say anything I will not usually say it. Buyers should ask questions and I have before on behalf of buyers who don't want to comment but only bid. When I hear comments like survivor on this car it makes me SMH. Cheerleaders. Heck any car that survived almost 60 years is a survivor but some survived much better than others. If anyone wants to point out anything on this car that is original and Is nice enough to use on a SAAC judged car in a true survivor class let me know.
O.K., I broke down and chose to (attempt) to kick my two cents in on the B.A.T. auction. ::)
My comment was, "That the car really didn't qualify as a true "survivor", it wasn't so "all original", there had already been some "fixer-upper" work done, if only to make it "driveable" (?), there are other unaddressed structural corrosion issues that just aren't going to go away, so as I see it, one probably should realize that the next logical step is a continued effort of a full restoration and the associated costs."
[And in response to a previous commenter with quotations to associate] And you'll want to keep those "1(800) catalogs" handy as your going to need 'some' stuff, but hopefully just not so much as to end up with a "Chinese/Reproduction example!" :)
Well, as so often seems to be the case, B.A.T. chose not to post my comment, which I admit did contain some snidery, but only as a response to a posting that contained far more supercilious attitude than I had presented, and with less confrontational substance than many others; but those were deemed palatable! >:(
And I new better than to (attempt to) participate, but I did it anyway! ::)
Scott.
Quote from: asrassoc on March 11, 2026, 02:34:16 PMFWIW, I have my own DC story related to the '69 Mach I I bought on BAT. Buyer beware if DC is involved at all.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-ford-mustang-200/. This car?
Upon further review... more comments removed.
Including one I made that was very similar to the BaT administrator posting!
Don't worry the new owner will find all this out soon , good luck to him ::)
I kind of wish we could hear what to say after they have some time with the car
Quote from: Lincoln tech on March 11, 2026, 04:20:21 PMDon't worry the new owner will find all this out soon , good luck to him ::)
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 11, 2026, 04:23:54 PMI kind of wish we could hear what to say after they have some time with the car
or after the first time they try to show the car in a unrestored/survivor class at a SAAC or MCA venue. ;)
This is an excellent discussion. If a car is found by judges at a SAAC or MCA show not to be as described at the time of purchase, would the owner have any legal recourse against the seller and/or BAT or other auction for misrepresentation? 8)
I doubt there would be any legal recourse.
Good B.S. salesmanship includes the ability to "imply", "suggest", or just "lead one to be under the impression of" some scenario, but without actually explicitly stating such. So, have any of the principle actors in the marketing/sales effort actually stated "explicitly" that this vehicle "would" be accepted in the "Survivor Class" for "SAAC" or "MCA", or any other specifically named group? The commenting by others in the peanut gallery, even if coerced, as by having "taken the bait" as set forth by the "Players", or if only of their own wild imagination, doesn't count; here the promoters allow others to speak for them, they just don't manage to intervene to "set the record strait"! :o
"Legal recourse"? Good luck with that! But of course if you got the dough, just think Tucker! ::)
Scott.
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on March 11, 2026, 03:42:07 PMQuote from: asrassoc on March 11, 2026, 02:34:16 PMFWIW, I have my own DC story related to the '69 Mach I I bought on BAT. Buyer beware if DC is involved at all.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-ford-mustang-200/. This car?
nope. this one...... https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-ford-mustang-mach-1-428-cobra-jet-43/
Just remember these two cars as auction ends
Yellow KR convertible for sale here n website could be bought at roughly the same price
Aca Blue 4spd AC fastback, rustfree Colorado car from original owner, original drivetrain, sold for roughly same price
Surprise! The guy that had issues with my "I hope someone doesn't get an incurable disease" post and thought it was funny that post was flagged, is from Dallas Fort Worth. Huh, the same area as Mr Dennis Collins. What a coincidence.
He also got flagged twice for his own comments.
Quote from: asrassoc on March 12, 2026, 06:49:19 AMQuote from: shelbymann1970 on March 11, 2026, 03:42:07 PMQuote from: asrassoc on March 11, 2026, 02:34:16 PMFWIW, I have my own DC story related to the '69 Mach I I bought on BAT. Buyer beware if DC is involved at all.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-ford-mustang-200/. This car?
I copied your winning link if the red car I thought after seeing your same name on the red car. I must not have taken on my phone. Thanks. I like when bat posters use the same name here. Mine is not exact but close.
nope. this one...... https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-ford-mustang-mach-1-428-cobra-jet-43/
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 11, 2026, 04:23:54 PMI kind of wish we could hear what to say after they have some time with the car
after they win maybe I'll try and tag the winning bidder a few months down the road and ask but not sure if Bat monitors that. I cannot post on this car so I'm done with it.
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 11, 2026, 04:23:54 PMI kind of wish we could hear what to say after they have some time with the car
Imagine a few months from now the winning bidder still believing they got the better end of the deal, joins SAAC and stumbles across this long post.
I'd think DC is not really following the auction much or comments. He probably has one of his associates handles it all.
In regards to BaT and their reserves. I've sold a few vehicles on there. I tried to run 2 others thru them and they were firm that they know the market and based on "research" they felt their reserve was very fair. Both vehicles sold for much more than the reserve BaT wanted through other avenues. One actually showed up on BaT a few years later through a "partner" with a reserve much higher than the one I wanted.
"Such a great job and video of the find"
https://barnfinds.com/the-ultimate-mustang-barn-find-1968-shelby-gt500-kr/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
Oh wait that was before
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 12, 2026, 09:59:20 AM"Such a great job and video of the find"
https://barnfinds.com/the-ultimate-mustang-barn-find-1968-shelby-gt500-kr/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
Oh wait that was before
when I read stories some make no sense. The guy is a car collector and has many cars. His neighbor knows this and asks if he is interested in it. The part that makes no sense is that in all the years they were neighbors he never saw the car before? I don't have my registry since I'm not home but wouldn't a quick check verify if this Uncle Tom was the original owner?
I love how all the DC Fan boys take everything at face value.
You cant say "uncle Tom" its 2026!
🙃
Ok Im done, until this MFer is over
Quote from: stangman39 on March 12, 2026, 09:48:29 AMI'd think DC is not really following the auction much or comments. He probably has one of his associates handles it all.
In regards to BaT and their reserves. I've sold a few vehicles on there. I tried to run 2 others thru them and they were firm that they know the market and based on "research" they felt their reserve was very fair. Both vehicles sold for much more than the reserve BaT wanted through other avenues. One actually showed up on BaT a few years later through a "partner" with a reserve much higher than the one I wanted.
Yes, I would think with his "internet being" is such a key part of his circus (ego and $$$) he has "people" that post to squelch any negative post that pop-up.
Quote from: stangman39 on March 12, 2026, 09:48:29 AMI would think with his "internet being" is such a key part of his circus (ego and $$$) he has "people" that post to squelch any negative post that pop-up.
Yes, I feel I've viewed this scenario as apparently happening with regularity on B.A.T., this particularly with their regular players, and when it seems B.A.T. themselves aren't running defense. But honestly this really isn't relegated solely to them, as the practice of deception, or just the "thumb on the scales", in the conveyance of goods for compensation isn't new. But ideally one shouldn't permit the behavior to become obvious! ::)
Scott.
$180K ... Not bad really ::) ;D
I would like to get all the people who said "drive it like it is" together.
Let them sit in that car for about an hour and see if they change their minds
Crap! Unlike this car my car has original paint on it. One owner. Maybe I should have rebuilt the engine and dropped it back ub. Did the brakes and mechanicals and sold it on bat. I guess I wasting 10s of thousands and many of my own hours restoring mine. But I now know my min price will be 200k as I'll reference this rodent infested non original paint worn out interior with metal replaces as an example for value. Pete, I love your " very well sold " comment but you know it went over the heads of many cheerleaders. Think of all the nice 67s and 66s and 68s that have sold for less as better drivers.
I really would love follow up on this car.
The ignorance of some is astounding, to characterize a statement I made about survivors as a "complaint" indicates to me there a lot of people still eating crayons
Was this a good deal" :-\
I dunno, but if just referencing "other" '68 Shelby GT500's as previously listed just on B.A.T., . . . . . I think for the money, or even less, I'd rather have gotten one of the "other" ones! ;)
And I do agree with one of the posters' comments on this B.A.T. auction: "Dennis did the right thing in not restoring this car"! Yep, the gullible public "took the bait" and ran the price up to where he "raked-it-in", this with minimal effort or expense invested!
As for the never ending "Rah-Rah" team for D.C., all I can say is that as repetitiously as the word "savior" was utilized in the event, may he ought to get a "medal"; aka. the "Congressional Gold Medal" and/or the "Medal of Honor Citizen Honors", I mean something; beyond that of the cult worship jeering! ::)
Not that I've ever really been a fan of the mentality, as associated with cars, as often one won't get "all" of the investment back at sale time, but now figure the restoration costs on top of the purchase price, . . . . . so just 'how far' upside-down would you end up! :o
Scott
Quote from: Grumpy on March 12, 2026, 01:15:04 PM$180K ... Not bad really ::) ;D
Not bad for the Seller.
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 12, 2026, 01:46:13 PM. . . . . there a lot of people still eating crayons
I think I remember it was only certain colors that prove bad for you? ::)
Scott.
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 12, 2026, 01:19:02 PMI would like to get all the people who said "drive it like it is" together.
Let them sit in that car for about an hour and see if they change their minds
I just could not drive that car with that rusty dash staring at me. The outside rust I can live with but I need some comfort & enjoyment while driving.
Craig R.
Quote from: pbf777 on March 12, 2026, 06:07:36 PMQuote from: Coralsnake on March 12, 2026, 01:46:13 PM. . . . . there a lot of people still eating crayons
I think I remember it was only certain colors that prove bad for you? ::)
Scott.
well those posters were eating the bad colored ones. I cringe at many of the comments and so many idiotic comments turned yellow tell me the amount of " cheerleaders" on BAT are out of control. I cannot tell you how many hours I have invested in learning the nuances of 68 Shelbys or how much time Pete has spent graciously educating me and then seeing a bunch of idiots making stupid comments they know nothing about. The dumbing of America via social media. Has anyone even determine if that was indeed the original engine in the car? How Dennis pried it from the engine shop owner who said many years ago he wouldn't sell it? Wouldn't that fall in with a DC Collins coffee walk episode nicely?
All i can say is WOW!! I would like to hire the guy who said that car can be restored for $25-30,000 as i see over $15,000 just in parts missing then a total restore.
The dash doesn't bother me so much....
Could you drive it with that headliner knowing there is a large mouse hole by the sun visor and those rodents were (are?) living in there, peeing, fornicating, dying and God knows what else for decades? Not what I want over my head and inches from my mouth.
Seems to be a lot of people that think you can just wipe off the seat and shampoo the rugs.
Good to go.
But, if you say anything like that you're a hateful person that thinks every car should have original fan belts.
Crayon eaters...wait until the temperature goes up and it dries out. You literally just bought the most expensive 1968 Shelby project car ever, best of luck
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 13, 2026, 05:47:04 AMThe dash doesn't bother me so much....
Could you drive it with that headliner knowing there is a large mouse hole by the sun visor and those rodents were (are?) living in there, peeing, fornicating, dying and God knows what else for decades? Not what I want over my head and inches from my mouth.
Seems to be a lot of people that think you can just wipe off the seat and shampoo the rugs.
Good to go.
But, if you say anything like that you're a hateful person that thinks every car should have original fan belts.
Crayon eaters...wait until the temperature goes up and it dries out. You literally bought the most expensive 1968 Shelby project car, best of luck
well said.
Quote from: Special Ed on March 12, 2026, 11:40:14 PMAll i can say is WOW!! I would like to hire the guy who said that car can be restored for $25-30,000 as i see over $15,000 just in parts missing then a total restore.
Ed.. that was me being sarcastic ;D
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on March 12, 2026, 10:49:43 PMI cringe at many of the comments and so many idiotic comments turned yellow tell me the amount of " cheerleaders" on BAT are out of control. . . . . and then seeing a bunch of idiots making stupid comments they know nothing about. [It's] the dumbing of America via social media.
I agree completely, and this is where B.A.T. should be concentrating their efforts on bettering the site, this rather than jumping in with the idiots (of course, might they be any wiser? ??? ), or choosing to follow a path that presents the apparent short-sighted profits of today in trade for legitimacy and stature in the future which would aid in assuring prominence and long-term profitability in the future. :)
QuoteHas anyone even determine if that was indeed the original engine in the car? How Dennis pried it from the engine shop owner who said many years ago he wouldn't sell it? Wouldn't that fall in with a DC Collins coffee walk episode nicely?
As having been it the business for quite a period of time, I can state that such scenarios, that as having been presented, rarely will one have the opportunity to come across. As first, most "shops" don't appreciate the item as a rarity, collectable or with any ideals of coveting it, it's "just another job", and generally needs to be turned in order to reap the benefits of having let it in the door and having invested labor and capital in it in the first place. If the customer fails to participate in a timely manor, generally the shop will levy a lien on the goods and then pawn them on the first interested party that they encounter. And this is more often the story that accompanies abandoned restoration projects where "the engine was lost at the machine shop long ago". ;)
So is it possible that the shop just hung on to the stuff for-ever? Yes, it does happen, but in a similar scenario, if I were considering a car where the engine had been abandoned at a shop a significant period of time ago, yeah I'd follow up to see if it were "possible", that the shop "might" still have it, but I sure have to label the chances as quite the "longshot"! :-\
But yeah, it makes for more fodder, in the process of creating a great tale! ::)
Scott.
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 12, 2026, 01:46:13 PMI really would love follow up on this car.
Perhaps someday by a stroke of fate, they call you or Tim or Mongo out of the blue.....
I wouldn't be surprised
I was surprised to see this was the first 1968 Shelby on the site since last October.