https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-shelby-mustang-gt500kr-20/?utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Model_Update
A little rusty?
This is being sold by Dennis Collins?
Pat
Yes
The exterior aside, Why would you not recondition the engine bay aprons before engine reinstallation? Is this done for effect or budget shortfall?
So tell me is this car a survivor like the posters( not the seller) keep saying it is? Only original once blah blah blah. I've owned true survivors and a good friend has a few true survivors right now. When you repaint the whole underside including parts and areas that never got primer. Add a DNO drive shaft and such is it still a survivor? I'd say no but want done input on this.
I would think a survivor would be untouched except for necessary mechanical upkeep and cleaning. I would presume to be an unrestored #1 car with much patina throughout.
Hes a used car salesman
Quote from: azdriver on March 03, 2026, 07:18:52 PMThis is being sold by Dennis Collins?
Pat
Owned by Dennis? Must be the "Holy Grail"............
Looks like it was hit hard in the left front. Picture of the left front suspension shows the inner fender apron wrinkled really bad. Also wonder how long the fuel line will stay up missing most of the retainers on the floor and axle vent stretched so bad its rear to rip. Both lower rear 1/4's were blended in and the left had the lower section replaced.
Shouldn't there be some Lime Gold Overspray on the Floor Pans, it looks to Brown.
Were you expecting a concours restoration from a flipper?
If so, we could spend a couple hours judging the car
However my first glance tells me we are missing a few parts.
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 04, 2026, 07:37:54 AMWere you expecting a concours restoration from a flipper?
If so, we could spend a couple hours judging the car
However my first glance tells me we are missing a few parts.
And many incorrect build details on the restored aspects
This just looks like a neglected, rusty, piece of junk. How BaT could label this a "Premium" auction is a travesty.
"the underside was coated in red oxide primer." right over the clearly visible severe pitting across the underbody! maybe this is more of the "Survivor patina"....lol
The "Premium" doesn't refer to the quality/uniqueness of the car, it's the level of BaT listing the seller signed up for.
Maybe someone will correct me, but arent "premium" listings paid for?
A better question is Hanta Virus insurance included?
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 04, 2026, 05:41:55 AMHes a used car salesman
+1 ... You can trust D/C, he's not like the others! ::)
Fred
Don't know him personally, only from his videos.
People seem to forget he is in the game to make money, nothing else.
Nothing wrong with that, just recognize it
Yes, I forgot, everything has a price at BaT, so anyone can pay extra to get a "Premium" listing. But this one is one of the worst I have seen. But who knows what people want to spend money on, I was amazed at this piece of a body that sold for $70,000.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1963-chevrolet-corvette-coupe-192/?utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Model_Update
Anything is possible.
Per the premium auction question. You can not pay or directly ask to be a premium auction, BAT will ask you and you can accept or deny (unsure if an additional fee is associated with it but I would assume so). I assume with bigger sellers however deals are worked out ahead of time and sellers know what will be premium or not with their BAT Concierge.
Quote from: Hipo-Fred on March 04, 2026, 10:51:31 AMQuote from: Coralsnake on March 04, 2026, 09:53:17 AMDon't know him personally, only from his videos.
People seem to forget he is in the game to make money, nothing else.
Nothing wrong with that, just recognize it
Yes Pete, understood and agree. At first, I mistakenly believed it was all about discovering and uncovering Shelbys that had otherwise gone under the radar, but soon realized that it was all about making money. And as you said, "nothing wrong with that" ... not surprising, just kinda disappointing.
Fred
... and a "bit" of parading ego too!
Those whom are active bidders, still in the running at this point are idiots, or just flippers that figure there's always someone else whom can be duped! This "survivor", had to be "doctored up" on the bottom side as otherwise the "shade-of-rust", on everything, would have had one wondering if the vehicle actually had survived! :o
Scott.
Here we go again all the Shelby experts gotta get there 2 cents in.
Your coments are just like on bring a trailer. Everyone has to chime in. Who cares your probably not a player to purchase it. Like or Hate Dennis people reach out to him and not you, why is that? Hes brought alot of cars back into the hobby that would be just left to rot. His videos are for entertainment, except them for that and nothing more or dont watch them.
Its just sad everytime a car is listed somewhere all the experts on here come out to bash it, thinking your doing the hobby a favor.
*you're*
*a lot*
I will play 1968 Shelby trivia with Mr Collins any day.
Not sure who you're directing your comments towards, just a friendly discussion here.
No one is forcing anyone to participate.
If you want to be a fanboy you can.
How much of a head start will you give "Mr.Holy Grail"...Pete???.... ::)
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 04, 2026, 02:14:21 PM*you're*
*a lot*
I will play Shelby trivia with Mr Collins anyday.
Not sure who you're directing your comments towards, just a friendly discussion here.
No one is forcing anyone to participate.
I would like to watch that.
"You guys don't know anything compared to Dennis"
"If you did you would have known about these cars before he did."
Oh, wait....people actually do reach out to some of us. 🤔
(https://www.saac.com/forum/gallery/8-040326161055.jpeg)
(https://www.saac.com/forum/gallery/8-040326161141.jpeg)
He is not really "finding" a lot of these cars. Let me know if you need some more examples?
Pro tip: SAAC forum is where the real Shelby experts are, not self promoting on the youtube.
Well, I have to admit I just don't get the attraction of a rust bucket like this. I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot barge pole and a full hazmat suit.
Quote from: Mikelj5S230 on March 04, 2026, 06:46:06 PMWell, I have to admit I just don't get the attraction of a rust bucket like this. I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot barge pole and a full hazmat suit.
Hey Mike
I see the rust Amigo
You still have ur KR?
Quote from: Nova68 on March 04, 2026, 02:08:37 PMHere we go again all the Shelby experts gotta get there 2 cents in. Your coments are just like on bring a trailer. Everyone has to chime in. Who cares your probably not a player to purchase it. Its just sad everytime a car is listed somewhere all the experts on here come out to bash it, thinking your doing the hobby a favor.
Yeah, that 'is' the purpose of a specialized forum, where participants are here to share knowledge, insight and comment of and on the particular subject matter relevant. And if one were a "serious player", what I'd hope for 'is' some critical commenting from the "experts", at least those whom might be more knowledgeable (which in my case probably is most anyone ::) ) and or just more observant. I have no need for those just bantering about what a great car it is (might be), not really knowing of what they speak, the individuals doing the selling generally provide adequately here. And this particularly like many in the peanut gallery on B.A.T., whom also aren't "players" either, rather just "wanna-feel-good" posting noise makers ;)
QuoteLike or Hate Dennis people reach out to him and not you, why is that?
If this is actually a question to the forum expecting a response? Well to me, he's just another "used car salesman", which generally means, in order for him to do business, if selling, your going to be offered something less than what it's worth in the marketplace, and if buying, your going to have to pay more than knowledgeable others thought it was worth! Which 'is' all O.K. just as long as everyone understands we 'are' doing business, and we're not pals and your really not doing me any favors. ::)
QuoteHes brought alot of cars back into the hobby that would be just left to rot. His videos are for entertainment, except them for that and nothing more or dont watch them.
Your quite the standard bearer for him and/or his videos. But do you really think "he's brought a lot of cars back that would otherwise . . . . ."? And I'll admit, there is "some" information being presented that proves interesting, perhaps we'll say, most being accurate and useful, but the density of this is too low, and the video drags on too long, with just too much dribble, leading anyone, but the absolute novice, to become bored and choose to turn away from it. ;D
But then, that's what successful u-tube videos are are about, "views", and appealing to the (ignorant) masses, whom wish to be just "entertained", will get you more hits! :o
Scott.
Quote from: Bigfoot on March 04, 2026, 08:08:57 PMHey Mike
I see the rust Amigo
You still have ur KR?
I don't Biggy, sold it several years ago.
Quote from: pbf777 on March 04, 2026, 08:33:39 PMQuote from: Nova68 on March 04, 2026, 02:08:37 PMHere we go again all the Shelby experts gotta get there 2 cents in. Your coments are just like on bring a trailer. Everyone has to chime in. Who cares your probably not a player to purchase it. Its just sad everytime a car is listed somewhere all the experts on here come out to bash it, thinking your doing the hobby a favor.
Yeah, that 'is' the purpose of a specialized forum, where participants are here to share knowledge, insight and comment of and on the particular subject matter relevant. And if one were a "serious player", what I'd hope for 'is' some critical commenting from the "experts", at least those whom might be more knowledgeable (which in my case probably is most anyone ::) ) and or just more observant. I have no need for those just bantering about what a great car it is (might be), not really knowing of what they speak, the individuals doing the selling generally provide adequately here. And this particularly like many in the peanut gallery on B.A.T., whom also aren't "players" either, rather just "wanna-feel-good" posting noise makers ;)
QuoteLike or Hate Dennis people reach out to him and not you, why is that?
If this is actually a question to the forum expecting a response? Well to me, he's just another "used car salesman", which generally means, in order for him to do business, if selling, your going to be offered something less than what it's worth in the marketplace, and if buying, your going to have to pay more than knowledgeable others thought it was worth! Which 'is' all O.K. just as long as everyone understands we 'are' doing business, and we're not pals and your really not doing me any favors. ::)
QuoteHes brought alot of cars back into the hobby that would be just left to rot. His videos are for entertainment, except them for that and nothing more or dont watch them.
Your quite the standard bearer for him and/or his videos. But do you really think "he's brought a lot of cars back that would otherwise . . . . ."? And I'll admit, there is "some" information being presented that proves interesting, perhaps we'll say, most being accurate and useful, but the density of this is too low, and the video drags on too long, with just too much dribble, leading anyone, but the absolute novice, to become bored and choose to turn away from it. ;D
But then, that's what successful u-tube videos are are about, "views", and appealing to the (ignorant) masses, whom wish to be just "entertained", will get you more hits! :o
Scott.
+1 - Thank you for posting this ;-)
Quote from: pbf777 on March 04, 2026, 08:33:39 PMQuote from: Nova68 on March 04, 2026, 02:08:37 PMHere we go again all the Shelby experts gotta get there 2 cents in. Your coments are just like on bring a trailer. Everyone has to chime in. Who cares your probably not a player to purchase it. Its just sad everytime a car is listed somewhere all the experts on here come out to bash it, thinking your doing the hobby a favor.
Yeah, that 'is' the purpose of a specialized forum, where participants are here to share knowledge, insight and comment of and on the particular subject matter relevant. And if one were a "serious player", what I'd hope for 'is' some critical commenting from the "experts", at least those whom might be more knowledgeable (which in my case probably is most anyone ::) ) and or just more observant. I have no need for those just bantering about what a great car it is (might be), not really knowing of what they speak, the individuals doing the selling generally provide adequately here. And this particularly like many in the peanut gallery on B.A.T., whom also aren't "players" either, rather just "wanna-feel-good" posting noise makers ;)
QuoteLike or Hate Dennis people reach out to him and not you, why is that?
If this is actually a question to the forum expecting a response? Well to me, he's just another "used car salesman", which generally means, in order for him to do business, if selling, your going to be offered something less than what it's worth in the marketplace, and if buying, your going to have to pay more than knowledgeable others thought it was worth! Which 'is' all O.K. just as long as everyone understands we 'are' doing business, and we're not pals and your really not doing me any favors. ::)
QuoteHes brought alot of cars back into the hobby that would be just left to rot. His videos are for entertainment, except them for that and nothing more or dont watch them.
Your quite the standard bearer for him and/or his videos. But do you really think "he's brought a lot of cars back that would otherwise . . . . ."? And I'll admit, there is "some" information being presented that proves interesting, perhaps we'll say, most being accurate and useful, but the density of this is too low, and the video drags on too long, with just too much dribble, leading anyone, but the absolute novice, to become bored and choose to turn away from it. ;D
But then, that's what successful u-tube videos are are about, "views", and appealing to the (ignorant) masses, whom wish to be just "entertained", will get you more hits! :o
Scott.
+1 . Very rational and non confrontational comments. Just the way it is.
We could turn up the heat ?
Bids keep going up.... Looks like its going to be a good one....
Pat
I have said it before BaT is modern day Dutch tulip bulb madness
Red kr fastback auto just sold at amilia island 265 barn fresh.
As I stated elsewhere: "Fools and their money soon part!" ::)
And boy does "Dennis" have a following, it's beginning to present a little like a "cult" following! :o
Scott.
A friend of mine bought the 67 390 4speed fastback mustang that was in a field featured on his show.
I would love to see what the floors look like without the rugs in place.
The floors on the KR? Most of the original floor has been replaced. Well, except where the holes are.
Its not even original paint, but don't tell them that.
Can we name this cult?
Quote from: Sfm6sxxx on March 10, 2026, 03:37:48 PMI would love to see what the floors look like without the rugs in place.
Just look from below - that will provide some insight and other evidence of repair, reattachment and replacement in a number of areas.
I got flagged after reading all the "I hope the new owner drives it" comments
I posted
"I hope the new owner doesn't get an incurable disease"
Seriously, it needs to be gutted
🤣
I threw a " fun fact" out there that original Shelby fiberglass under the topside paint has gray primer. Look at the hood paint flaking off and Red primer on it. Fender apron crunched pretty good so some say they are only original once? How much is original on this car
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 10, 2026, 05:05:29 PMI got flagged after reading all the "I hope the new owner drives it" comments
That's O.K., don't feel bad, I'm not even going to try to comment on that P.O.S., as I know, since all of my submitted comments already are routinely being held for "special attention" (review by the B.A.T. staff) before being actually posted on the site, that none of anything I might comment of would make it through! :o
Particularly as B.A.T. has gotten more aggressive at weeding out the "stick-in-the-mud" type comments; but personally, I wish they'd try to make their site more informative and professional, this meaning that they "should" be weeding out all of the stupid "Rah-Rah", "I remember when . . . .", and the rest of the "inane comments" that actually are "not constructive" to the process, that is unless your just a non-bidding simpleton commenter looking for "thumbs-up" likes from others alike! ::)
Scott.
Was the snake on the fenders ever that far away from "Cobra Jet 428"?
If not, what's that tell us ... that it's been repainted?
If you look at the inner fender apron, front left it is heavily damaged. There is no way that panel could be damaged without damaging outside metal and fiberglass parts. The hood has red oxide primer on it, which is an indication it has been resprayed. The fender emblems and stripes are not correct. The stripes have the wrong font. The emblems are in the wrong locations. The lower valence is not mounted correctly. There appears to be a missing power steering oil cooler. That is normally mounted on the radiator support. Someone left it off. The blackout on the hood is painted (not a decal)
Add all those up and you get: hit hard and repaired. On the plus side the fenders and fiberglass look like original parts. So it most likely happened early.
Im sure a closer look would reveal a lot more
Thank you Pete.
Scott
Being in the sun all day at Ft Meyers beach I probably wasn't thinking when I couldn't help myself and rebutted jag1964's stupid comment. I have bit my tongue long enough on all those butt kissing know nothing posters. To say this car would be more popular at a SAAC event than a " perfect" restored car( well the poster said a 350k resto which if anyone spent that much would be a perfect car) is one of the dumbest comments I have seen on bat as mist SAAC members would walk right by this rodent infested car as to not inhale anything.