Watched a internet video on this place. Wow 75 acres. Opened in 1960 still open. Wonder if anyone ever asked if they happen to have VRD 389 black license plates hanging around. Or walked around and looks at the mustangs there.
Neva Eva Neva
but having said that it peaked our interest
pretty kool place
A Visit To Legendary Turner Auto Wreckers - The 100 Acres Of Cars And Parts Are Amazing, But Jerry Turner, Age 93, Is Even More So - Curbside Classic
https://www.curbsideclassic.com/auto-biography/a-visit-to-legendary-turner-auto-wreckers-the-75-acres-of-cars-are-amazing-but-jerry-turner-age-93-overshadows-them-all/
Blows my mind to see a place like this. Our wrecking yards are small and all picked over. Mostly crushed them.
Quote from: 68cobra427 on November 20, 2025, 12:44:27 PMBlows my mind to see a place like this. Our wrecking yards are small and all picked over. Mostly crushed them.
Most of our wrecking yards have been converted to "clean commercial buildings"
Look at the accumulation of parts differentials, trannys, rears, drums, disc etc.
You name it WE got it
Bike parts not a problema
Got those too
Ride on !
Called and talked with Mr Turner, Asked if he ever had a 1967 Shelby GT500 come in wrecked he said no never. Also he said California is real strict on selling black license plates from the yard. So Jim Morrisons of the doors car never made it to this place.
Quote from: 68cobra427 on November 20, 2025, 12:51:45 PMCalled and talked with Mr Turner, Asked if he ever had a 1967 Shelby GT500 come in wrecked he said no never. Also he said California is real strict on selling black license plates from the yard. So Jim Morrisons of the doors car never made it to this place.
You dealt with an honest man and ofcourse it did not show up there.
It was recycled into many things after it was crushed. Possibly many TUNA cans.
But will take the liberty to say the following about Jimmies car;
The lack of items from this car showing up for sale suggests that it is gone from the face of the earth .
But that does not rule out the creativity and large CASH INFUSIONS of some to reconstruct and resurrect...if and when it comes back to life, not even the most astute people / judges will be able to distinguish that it's not the real one...
rise lazarus, rise...
More from jimmies car at
https://www.saac.com/forum/index.php?topic=4791.msg41316#msg41316
Quote from: 68cobra427 on November 20, 2025, 12:19:34 PMWatched a internet video on this place. Wow 75 acres. Opened in 1960 still open. Wonder if anyone ever asked if they happen to have VRD 389 black license plates hanging around. Or walked around and looks at the mustangs there.
Yes been there a number of times over the decades. Walked the place each time just have to do the regular song and dance to get to the back and allowed to walk it by yourself. Some places its tough and can take a few visits and making the right choices to be allowed free roam. Then there can be (never happened here) the whole camera and picture issue.
At one point I was able to spend two days a week at least roaming yards around Calif and on trips around the country. Nasty, dirty, often very hot but fun
Never know, in the 80's I went to a friends family gathering in Washington state. Come to find out his uncle was a pot grower and in the barn was 2 (68 Shelby's) One was a convertible GT500 and the other was a gold GT350 fastback. He stole them both. I know the convert was stripped and long gone but the fastback was taken out of LA area and driven to Washington. I think it is still there in the barn. I remember a story of someone that use to own a gold one and how it was taken. I did reach out with info to them regarding the info I had at the time. Never received a reply. Told him what town it was in and the persons name.
There is still cars hidden. I know of these not for sale.
68 GT350 convertible
68 GT500 fastback black
68 GT500 fastback hiland green
67 GT500
70 B9
70 GT500 fastback
Quote from: 68cobra427 on November 20, 2025, 12:51:45 PMAlso he said California is real strict on selling black license plates from the yard.
They are supposed to destroy them. That rarely happens most of the cars in yards still had their plates on them. Some plates have a good resale value. I suspect those get checked off as "no plate" cars and sold to the YOM sellers.
BTW: Turners is 200+ miles away from where the Blue Lady would have ended up.
I'm in the school that it is sitting in some guys garage and after he's dead the kids will reveal it and clean up at the auction. It was advertised at Ray's Performance Center in 1971. That was Ray Wolf's place. He opened it after HiPerf Motors, where he was sales mgr, was closed.
Ray's today isn't in the best of neighborhoods. It was a typical small used car dealer with a lot and small office building.
I have roamed that yard also, 20-25 years ago. Old man Turner let me roam after I asked if I could look for Cougar (and other) parts. I was even allowed to go into the tow storage yards directly across from the wrecking yard.
Neat old guy, he said it was probably time to cull out a bunch of worthless junk. He showed me his airplane, said that he wanted to fly it one more time before he died. He said there was an air strip on the property that got covered in junk cars. Reminded me of the Second Hand Lions movie.
The largest wrecking yard I was ever in was Pearson's, in Pearsonville. All crushed out now, they had couple of hundred acres in the desert. Cars dating back to the 1940's.
Me and my crew were talking about checking that place out, but we haven't gotten any further that that! ;D
I used to hit up the Ecology yard in Santa Fe Springs. Back then I had a '67 Fairlane and a 72 VW Bus.
I used to spend all kinds of time just looking around... envisioning engine swaps...
I think I got some 289 heads for my Fairlane from there (someone had swapped in a 302)
I took the heads over to Fullerton College and gave them a valve job and then swapped them at my Dad's place
Good Times! 8)
Quote from: RacerX on November 20, 2025, 05:22:19 PMI used to hit up the Ecology yard in Santa Fe Springs.
That guy revolutionized the junkyard biz - (Pick Your Part today https://locations.lkqpickyourpart.com/en-us/ca/santa-fe-springs/13780-imperial-highway/ ). Cars on jack stands in neat rows. Available for a short period of time then squashed flat and taken to the LA Harbor where they were fed into giant shredders that dumped directly into cargo ships destined for Japan.
A friend had his boat near the shredder. They sent people around twice a year to clean and polish all the rust spots off the boats in the marina.
The main metal shredder facility in the LA Harbor area is operated by SA Recycling on Terminal Island. This site features a large, 9,000 horsepower "mega shredder" capable of shredding high volumes of metal like cars and appliances.
Yep been to turners back years ago up and down the west coast when me and sizemore traveled in the good ole days but we didnt buy much at turners as thats why he got alot of parts left great place to visit and look around thou.
I would love to take a walk through a place like Turner's. I first heard of them on an episode of "Roadkill" some years ago.
I used to love going through the various "Ecology Auto Wrecking" and "Pick Your Part" yards all over the SoCal area. I've bought, sold and kept lots of treasures picked from those places. They're all pretty much useless these days, though, since the LKQ takeover. Many of the yards have closed and all the prices have gone through the roof.
Never saw the ad with Morrison's registration plate number before. I don't recall ever seeing ads in my area (PA) with registration plate numbers. Were they required/common in ads in CA back then?
Quote from: 5566 on November 21, 2025, 07:12:31 AMNever saw the ad with Morrison's registration plate number before. I don't recall ever seeing ads in my area (PA) with registration plate numbers. Were they required/common in ads in CA back then?
Yes in hopes to reduce auto thief most newspapers required the license plate numbers to be published. Easier than having to post the VIN
Thanks! You learn something new every day.
Odd thing about Turners that always stood out was/is that the ground had been driven over (back and forth with their vehicles) the road ways/paths were dry dust not really soil. As you walked over it your feet would sink into the road a couple of inches and little dust clouds would puff up.
Just a couple of pictures I got of cars from Turners 20 plus years ago
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/21/6-211125210120-214652127.jpeg)
Quote from: 5566 on November 21, 2025, 07:12:31 AMNever saw the ad with Morrison's registration plate number before. I don't recall ever seeing ads in my area (PA) with registration plate numbers. Were they required/common in ads in CA back then?
Dealers had to list a partial VIN or the plate number to stop bait and switch. Private parties didn't have to.
This guy has a lot of Doors stuff on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@TheDutchGuy/videos
GT500
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nYKTJWlX6s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9VEP3s7_48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIwP-A65Vdc
Another missing Doors car....... Pam's VW was also sold before they left for Paris. I wonder if it could even be identified today?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZActqz4YWKw
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on November 22, 2025, 11:59:46 AMDealers had to list a partial VIN or the plate number to stop bait and switch...................
Checked some old ads from mid to late 60's and it appears to have been more of a Southern Ca thing.
Just a couple of examples from spring-summer 68. Not sure why someone altered the LA copy
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/21/6-221125163758-214682436.jpeg)
It might have even been just the requirement of various papers.
Is there anyone from the LA area who might be able to ID the Ford dealer advertising the white Cobra with a green stripe (CSX 3348) by the phone number (SY3-3154) ? The car was supposedly at S&C in San Francisco at this time but was transferred to Robert Loud Ford in Pasadena in May, a month after this ad appeared.
Quote from: Cobra Ned on November 27, 2025, 01:13:42 PMIs there anyone from the LA area who might be able to ID the Ford dealer advertising the white Cobra with a green stripe (CSX 3348) by the phone number (SY3-3154) ? The car was supposedly at S&C in San Francisco at this time but was transferred to Robert Loud Ford in Pasadena in May, a month after this ad appeared.
The SY - Sycamore - prefix was a Pasadena phone number back in the day.
SY in the bay area was Palo Alto.
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on November 22, 2025, 06:07:10 PMIt might have even been just the requirement of various papers.
Thanks guys. I had never seen it before and didn't understand the reason. New and used vehicles around here, at dealers, don't generally have plates on them and ads don't (or didn't used to) mention them. The reasons given make sense, even though the VIN would be much more effective.
Happy Thanksgiving!
Quote from: Cobra Ned on November 27, 2025, 01:13:42 PMIs there anyone from the LA area who might be able to ID the Ford dealer advertising the white Cobra with a green stripe (CSX 3348) by the phone number (SY3-3154) ? The car was supposedly at S&C in San Francisco at this time but was transferred to Robert Loud Ford in Pasadena in May, a month after this ad appeared.
AI inquiry yields high confidence that number is for S&C Ned, one of several reasons being the SY prefix was not used in the Colorado Blvd area where Robert Loud Ford was located
Quote from: Fd243 on November 27, 2025, 08:39:35 PMQuote from: Cobra Ned on November 27, 2025, 01:13:42 PMIs there anyone from the LA area who might be able to ID the Ford dealer advertising the white Cobra with a green stripe (CSX 3348) by the phone number (SY3-3154) ? The car was supposedly at S&C in San Francisco at this time but was transferred to Robert Loud Ford in Pasadena in May, a month after this ad appeared.
AI inquiry yields high confidence that number is for S&C Ned, one of several reasons being the SY prefix was not used in the Colorado Blvd area where Robert Loud Ford was located
Have to admit that I got a good chuckle out of AI being used or quoted :)
Doesn't look like it was S&C Motors in Northern Calif, based on this 65 ad which listed UN 1-6000
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/21/6-271125222101-214812326.jpeg)
Quote from: 5566 on November 27, 2025, 01:57:13 PM..... dealers, don't generally have plates on them and ads don't (or didn't used to) mention them. The reasons given make sense, even though the VIN would be much more effective.
There was a big stink in the 60s (at least in LA) with dealers offering cheap cars and then whey you got there it was "sold". Many people complained about the bait & switch that was going on. Papers started to want the ad cars identified. A VIN or plate was used. Some dealers went so far as to add "1 only at this price". The LA Times car ad section was big. The Sunday paper had 10-20 full page ads by dealers and several hundred of the small ads from private buyers.
My dad was one of those guys that would buy the bait car. Our first Mustang (they got for my sister) a 66 6cyl auto Coupe is what we switched to when my mom wouldn't let him buy the $500 cheaper 40,000+ mile 65 silver 4 speed fastback with a miss.
Quote from: 5566 on November 21, 2025, 07:12:31 AMNever saw the ad with Morrison's registration plate number before. I don't recall ever seeing ads in my area (PA) with registration plate numbers. Were they required/common in ads in CA back then?
The ad genie has granted your wish twofold
"Jimmies VRD389"
Quote from: FL SAAC on November 28, 2025, 07:39:54 AMQuote from: 5566 on November 21, 2025, 07:12:31 AMNever saw the ad with Morrison's registration plate number before. I don't recall ever seeing ads in my area (PA) with registration plate numbers. Were they required/common in ads in CA back then?
The ad genie has granted your wish twofold
"Jimmies VRD389"
If you check my links you'll see all 12 that have been found.
Has anyone ever reached out to Jim Morrison's sister in Santa Barbara? To see when she received all of Jim's items from the girl friends family that maybe the original title was in with all the items that she is storing.
She is 78 now and running everything for Jim's memory. The girlfriend passed in 1974.
Quote from: 68cobra427 on December 12, 2025, 07:25:56 PMHas anyone ever reached out to Jim Morrison's sister in Santa Barbara? To see when she received all of Jim's items from the girl friends family that maybe the original title was in with all the items that she is storing.
She is 78 now and running everything for Jim's memory. The girlfriend passed in 1974.
Fantastic idea !
I thought so and just sent a letter asking for a picture if she has it. That SAAC would be interested in keeping his memory alive. Would be great for Vincent to have in his archives. Crossing fingers she replies and able to find it. Worth a shot.
Quote from: 68cobra427 on December 12, 2025, 07:48:46 PMI thought so and just sent a letter asking for a picture if she has it. That SAAC would be interested in keeping his memory alive. Would be great for Vincent to have in his archives. Crossing fingers she replies and able to find it. Worth a shot.
Yes indeed, keep us informed of your findings. This could be a great revelation to all.
Merry Christmas
Quote from: 68cobra427 on December 12, 2025, 07:25:56 PMHas anyone ever reached out to Jim Morrison's sister in Santa Barbara? To see when she received all of Jim's items from the girl friends family that maybe the original title was in with all the items that she is storing.
She is 78 now and running everything for Jim's memory. The girlfriend passed in 1974.
Like the crazy lady with the Daytona Coupe she probably gets contacted a few times a year by car hunters. Maybe more often since she's not hiding. The title would have gone with the car to the dealer and the dealer would turn it in to DMV for a one to be issued with the new owners name on it. If it was financed the title would be sent to the lien holder who would be noted as the legal owner. If the car was junked the title is surrendered by the junkyard to DMV. There is at least one old registration floating around. That has zero value as to car disposition, current ownership, etc.
I would think since Jim was given the car by his friend that is was not financed and the title went to Jim for him to register the car in the first place. When wrecked and impounded by the police and sold to Ray's Hi-Performance at that time from most likely a police auction there would be a new title made. Jim may not have surrendered the orig title.
Never hurts to ask. May dead end but worth a try. It sure would blow minds if she had it and yes probably no value, Just information.
Quote from: 68cobra427 on December 13, 2025, 03:48:09 PMI would think since Jim was given the car by his friend that is was not financed and the title went to Jim for him to register the car in the first place. When wrecked and impounded by the police and sold to Ray's Hi-Performance at that time from most likely a police auction there would be a new title made. Jim may not have surrendered the orig title.
Never hurts to ask. May dead end but worth a try. It sure would blow minds if she had it and yes probably no value, Just information.
After "Light My Fire" topped the record charts in 1967, The Doors became huge stars, practically overnight.
Elektra Records founder and president Jac Holzman was so thrilled with his label's first #1 hit that he offered to reward the band members with whatever gift they wanted.
Manzerak and Krieger asked for state-of-the-art reel-to-reel tape recorders. Densmore chose a horse.
Morrison, the thrill-seeking frontman, went for horsepower.
As the story goes, Morrison wasn't sure what car he wanted until he saw the Shelby Mustang GT350 owned by his hair stylist, Jay Sebring.
(If Sebring's name sounds familiar, that's because he too met an early demise.
In 1969 he was murdered, along with actress Sharon Tate, by the Manson Family.)
Holtzman not only agreed to buy Morrison a Shelby, he upgraded it to a new Nightmist Blue GT500 with a 355-horsepower, 428-cubic-inch V-8, mated to a four-speed manual.
Only 2000 or so were built.
50 years after Jim Morrison's death, where is his 1967 Shelby GT500?
Its crushed....
https://www.hagerty.com/media/car-profiles/50-years-jim-morrisons-death-1967-shelby-gt500/
I received a letter back from Anne Chewning and she does not have the title. Said if the car is found or the title she would like to know.
Next someone could try to locate Ray Wolff of Hi-Performance son and see if he still has any of the business paperwork stored away that would show a sale of the car in 1971.
Quote from: 68cobra427 on January 19, 2026, 12:05:24 PMI received a letter back from Anne Chewning and she does not have the title. Said if the car is found or the title she would like to know.
Next someone could try to locate Ray Wolff of Hi-Performance son and see if he still has any of the business paperwork stored away that would show a sale of the car in 1971.
Car not found
Title i.e. paperwork was sold, the owner is in this SAAC forum
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Car not found
Title i.e. paperwork was sold, the owner is in this SAAC forum
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Updated information:
Person owns a copy of the car's California Vehicle Registration from 1969.
Yes Bret at Capecod mustang.
Quote from: FL SAAC on November 20, 2025, 01:00:56 PMQuote from: 68cobra427 on November 20, 2025, 12:51:45 PMCalled and talked with Mr Turner, Asked if he ever had a 1967 Shelby GT500 come in wrecked he said no never. Also he said California is real strict on selling black license plates from the yard. So Jim Morrisons of the doors car never made it to this place.
You dealt with an honest man and ofcourse it did not show up there.
It was recycled into many things after it was crushed. Possibly many TUNA cans.
But will take the liberty to say the following about Jimmies car;
The lack of items from this car showing up for sale suggests that it is gone from the face of the earth .
But that does not rule out the creativity and large CASH INFUSIONS of some to reconstruct and resurrect...if and when it comes back to life, not even the most astute people / judges will be able to distinguish that it's not the real one...
rise lazarus, rise...
More from jimmies car at
https://www.saac.com/forum/index.php?topic=4791.msg41316#msg41316
Yep, build one now, stash it in dusty Barn and just sit back and wait for the right people to Die Off.
Quote from: FL SAAC on November 20, 2025, 01:00:56 PMBut that does not rule out the creativity and large CASH INFUSIONS of some to reconstruct and resurrect...if and when it comes back to life, not even the most astute people / judges will be able to distinguish that it's not the real one...
I'll take that bet.
Worst attempt to troll ever.
Quote from: TLea on January 20, 2026, 12:11:38 PMQuote from: FL SAAC on November 20, 2025, 01:00:56 PMBut that does not rule out the creativity and large CASH INFUSIONS of some to reconstruct and resurrect...if and when it comes back to life, not even the most astute people / judges will be able to distinguish that it's not the real one...
I'll take that bet.
That would be fun. :)
You never know if and when something comes up that has stayed hidden for a long time. For in-stance I found the number (1) AC cobra 289 car in Portland Oregon and missed purchasing it by 2 weeks. It was raced at PIR and stored in pieces in an enclosed trailer next to the house. The orig owner passed from cancer. It sold for $450K and shipped to California.
@68cobra427
Are you talking about CSX 2075?
Roy
Quote from: 68cobra427 on January 19, 2026, 12:05:24 PMI received a letter back from Anne Chewning and she does not have the title. Said if the car is found or the title she would like to know.
Next someone could try to locate Ray Wolff of Hi-Performance son and see if he still has any of the business paperwork stored away that would show a sale of the car in 1971.
I've also heard others have already tracked down his (Ray Wolf) son.
I'm not aware if that revealed anything or not.
I'll take that bet.
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That would be fun. :)
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First of all if car ever appeared the burden of proof would be the car itself. I don't anyone is going to just say "oh yeah thats it"
QuoteI don't anyone is going to just say "oh yeah thats it"
Have you read the Boss Shelby or second
Bullitt threads?
Quote from: Coralsnake on January 21, 2026, 08:16:19 AMQuoteI don't anyone is going to just say "oh yeah thats it"
Have you read the Boss Shelby or second Bullitt threads?
:o ;D
Fred
Quote from: Coralsnake on January 21, 2026, 08:16:19 AMQuoteI don't anyone is going to just say "oh yeah thats it"
Have you read the Boss Shelby or second Bullitt threads?
Agreed but people will buy anything if someone "allegedly" credible signs off on it. Its in my little black book of all the fakes I've found over the years the list of "credible" sign offs
Quote from: TA Coupe on January 20, 2026, 07:33:17 PM@68cobra427
Are you talking about CSX 2075?
Roy
The very first Carroll Shelby Cobra car.