Quick question. Working on a '67 GT 500. Washer bottle, hoses and nozzles are missing. Before I order parts, should it have a plastic washer bottle or a bag?
Thanks, Pete.
Depends on when the car was built I believe
San Jose Build date is needed to provide a likely reply to your question.
This also relates to which style of Windshield washer nozzles were used.
The holes in the sidewall should be a giveaway to what washer bag or bottle you should have.
The bracket for a bag was welded to the sidewall, i.e. holes if drilled out should be quite close.
Bottle had no bracket and holes for screws longer apart.
Texas Swede
Build date on the door tag is 03A. I don't see any holes in the apron. Looks like it may have been replaced.
The switch from bag to bottle was around March 20, 1967...from what I remember.
Quote from: Peter L. on November 17, 2025, 11:55:42 AMBuild date on the door tag is 03A. I don't see any holes in the apron. Looks like it may have been replaced.
Door tags were to be removed on Shelby's, although some did "slip through". Do you have a Marti report - is that where you're referencing the door tag info? If you have a Marti report what is the San Jose build date?
Yes, if the panel was replaced or "repaired" (rust, accident) then the features Texas Swede referenced (good things to note ;-) may not be there to reference accurately.
No Marti report, but that early build date suggests a bag instead of the bottle according to Texas Swede. Thanks for the input guys!
Pete.
Sorry, I meant GT350 Nick. My mistake.
Quote from: Peter L. on November 17, 2025, 12:48:57 PMNo Marti report, but that early build date suggests a bag instead of the bottle according to Texas Swede. Thanks for the input guys!
Pete.
If we had the car number the date is published in the Registry
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We came up with somewhere between March 29th and April 7th 1967
67 San Jose washer fluid container survey (https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=20718.0)
Some cars have the mount for a washer bottle but they were originally equipped with the plastic reservoir - it helps to know which type it originally came with. Often the bag mount is present and it was flattened to install the plastic reservoir.
Quote from: Royce Peterson on November 19, 2025, 04:34:46 PMSome cars have the mount for a washer bottle but they were originally equipped with the plastic reservoir - it helps to know which type it originally came with. Often the bag mount is present and it was flattened to install the plastic reservoir.
Respectfully - On San Jose built 67's? Don't recall ever seeing one of those - have a picture of an example? Love to see it and the date the car was completed on.
Quote from: J_Speegle on November 19, 2025, 05:06:21 PMQuote from: Royce Peterson on November 19, 2025, 04:34:46 PMSome cars have the mount for a washer bottle but they were originally equipped with the plastic reservoir - it helps to know which type it originally came with. Often the bag mount is present and it was flattened to install the plastic reservoir.
Respectfully - On San Jose built 67's? Don't recall ever seeing one of those - have a picture of an example? Love to see it and the date the car was completed on.
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Quote from: J_Speegle on November 19, 2025, 05:06:21 PMQuote from: Royce Peterson on November 19, 2025, 04:34:46 PMSome cars have the mount for a washer bottle but they were originally equipped with the plastic reservoir - it helps to know which type it originally came with. Often the bag mount is present and it was flattened to install the plastic reservoir.
Respectfully - On San Jose built 67's? Don't recall ever seeing one of those - have a picture of an example? Love to see it and the date the car was completed on.
I don't have a San Jose 67 in my shop this minute to photograph but I have a Dearborn example. As far as I know San Jose followed instructions from Dearborn.
Quote from: Royce Peterson on November 22, 2025, 05:45:49 PMI don't have a San Jose 67 in my shop this minute to photograph but I have a Dearborn example. As far as I know San Jose followed instructions from Dearborn.
Depended on the item or process. Many if not all related to safety, federal requirements, emissions as so on were or had to be standardized but on many other details not all details were the same as we've documented over the years.Plants were allowed some or a lot, depending on how you look at things, leeway when needed, to get the cars out. Differences in how each line was laid out, plant overall design, even which shift was working and other things came into play for things like this according to managers at San Jose and other Ford plants around the country we've talked to. Think the details you mentioned about the early bracket being installed then flattened was a Dearborn detail based on the evidence. Haven't seen this on factory NJ or San Jose cars around the running change period. Will be on the look for the possibility but of course it may be hard to determine if it was factory or an owner or mechanic with a big hammer. Lot easier than drilling out the spot welds when you want to mount something else in that location. :)
One of the reasons the Assembly Manuals do not provide a complete or always correct guide as to how the cars were assembled or built. Fair number of differences between plants down to the way and order the body panels were welded together in different years and body types between the plants.