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Title: PRIMER QUESTION
Post by: tesgt350 on November 06, 2025, 10:14:55 AM
About 40 Years ago I rescued a Car Show Icon from a Junk Yard.  It is a 1960 Ford Thunderbird like no other ever built.  Back in the Mid 60's this Car was highly modified for that time.  It was cut in half in Three Places and welded back together making it about 2.5 Feet Shorter which is why I call it "LITTLE BIRD".  When I rescued it, it was in Brown Primer as a rolling shell, no Drivetrain, no Interior, many Parts missing and the Wiring all cut up.  I got driving and even entered it into a couple Shows before I stupidly sold it back in the early 90's.  30 Years later I got it back rescuing it again, this time from a Field.  After 40 Years now, all the Body Work needs to be redone so, O need to strip the Car down and have it Blasted,  I keep hearing about a Primer that I can spray the Car with after blasting and then do the Body Work over it.  Any body know about that, used it?

Photo #1, Me working on it about 35 Years ago.  Photo #2 How the Car looks NOW.  Photo #3A full size 1960 Thunderbird.
Title: Re: PRIMER QUESTION
Post by: Bill on November 06, 2025, 11:01:22 AM
Looks like a neat project, can't wait to see the progress.

Regardless of brand (70% of which are made in the same production facilities these days, then relabeled), you'll want a 2K epoxy primer, not an etch primer (good for spot repair, not suggested for overall) followed by a high build primer once bodywork has been accomplished. Welding, use the etch primer followed by a scuff/sanding, then a 2K epoxy primer on top of this. Do your regular bodywork (fillers and such), finish off with a high build primer, then sand again until you feel the panels are as smooth as you want them to be.


Bill
Title: Re: PRIMER QUESTION
Post by: FL SAAC on November 06, 2025, 12:25:40 PM
Quote from: tesgt350 on November 06, 2025, 10:14:55 AMAbout 40 Years ago I rescued a Car Show Icon from a Junk Yard.  It is a 1960 Ford Thunderbird like no other ever built.  Back in the Mid 60's this Car was highly modified for that time.  It was cut in half in Three Places and welded back together making it about 2.5 Feet Shorter which is why I call it "LITTLE BIRD".  When I rescued it, it was in Brown Primer as a rolling shell, no Drivetrain, no Interior, many Parts missing and the Wiring all cut up.  I got driving and even entered it into a couple Shows before I stupidly sold it back in the early 90's.  30 Years later I got it back rescuing it again, this time from a Field.  After 40 Years now, all the Body Work needs to be redone so, O need to strip the Car down and have it Blasted,  I keep hearing about a Primer that I can spray the Car with after blasting and then do the Body Work over it.  Any body know about that, used it?

Photo #1, Me working on it about 35 Years ago.  Photo #2 How the Car looks NOW.  Photo #3A full size 1960 Thunderbird.


First let us say that's one kool square bird !

On your question, we consulted with a very good and dear friend of ours "Toto Von Dutch" this is his reply via text:

The best primer after media blasting is an epoxy primer applied directly to the bare, clean metal for maximum adhesion and corrosion protection.

Before priming, ensure the surface is completely clean and dry, and consider using a pre-treatment product like a phosphoric acid-based metal conditioner or Direct-to-Metal (DTM) etch primer if you can't prime immediately or need to neutralize hidden rust.

Best of luck !
Title: Re: PRIMER QUESTION
Post by: Chris Thauberger on November 07, 2025, 08:54:48 AM
Quote from: Bill on November 06, 2025, 11:01:22 AMLooks like a neat project, can't wait to see the progress.

Regardless of brand (70% of which are made in the same production facilities these days, then relabeled), you'll want a 2K epoxy primer, not an etch primer (good for spot repair, not suggested for overall) followed by a high build primer once bodywork has been accomplished. Welding, use the etch primer followed by a scuff/sanding, then a 2K epoxy primer on top of this. Do your regular bodywork (fillers and such), finish off with a high build primer, then sand again until you feel the panels are as smooth as you want them to be.


Bill

I agree with Bill, an expert in this field.

You would only need to use a phosphoric acid-based metal conditioner if you lived in a swamp (high relative humidity)... so floorada.


Always go with advice from an expert.
Title: Re: PRIMER QUESTION
Post by: shelbymann1970 on November 08, 2025, 01:47:17 PM
What Bill said. He has owned businesses in this field.