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Title: VIN history
Post by: Onguard916 on September 21, 2025, 12:47:16 PM
I just bought a 66 mustang hard top and I'm looking for some history about it. It was potentially a prototype car through Shelby America. It has all the racing equipment installed.

VIN 6R07C172438
Title: Re: VIN history
Post by: Bill on September 21, 2025, 01:02:25 PM
Quote from: Onguard916 on September 21, 2025, 12:47:16 PMI just bought a 66 mustang hard top and I'm looking for some history about it. It was potentially a prototype car through Shelby America. It has all the racing equipment installed.

VIN 6R07C172438

Sorry, no, not anything to do with Shelby, Shelby American, or any special racing prototype
Title: Re: VIN history
Post by: Coralsnake on September 21, 2025, 01:08:26 PM
Maybe share some photos and more history.

Keep in mind every car that Shelby touched has recorded history. Those histories and numbers are known to the club.

A coupe and especially a "c" code couple is very unlikely "prototype" but lets see what you have
Title: Re: VIN history
Post by: Bob Gaines on September 21, 2025, 01:09:55 PM
And would typically have a K engine code.
Title: Re: VIN history
Post by: Coralsnake on September 21, 2025, 01:12:08 PM
I would say the probability you have a prototype is probably less than 1 %

The probability someone sold you a story is more than 99%
Title: Re: VIN history
Post by: 6T6SHELBY on September 21, 2025, 02:21:39 PM
Did you buy this car out of Armonk, NY?
Title: Re: VIN history
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on September 21, 2025, 03:28:27 PM
I think the only "C" 66 Mustang Shelby American touched is the one they got off a local dealer lot when Ford told them to prep a car in 2 weeks for the final TranAm race of the 66 season at Riverside. Dodge was destined to win the first championship with their Dart. Titus dramatically winning that race sewed up Ford's first TA championship and gave Titus the nickname of Mr. TransAm.

I hope you didn't pay extra for the story. Always buy the car not undocumented stories.
Title: Re: VIN history
Post by: Coralsnake on September 21, 2025, 09:43:03 PM
Well, he has come back twice and no update?
Title: Re: VIN history
Post by: Onguard916 on September 21, 2025, 10:43:03 PM
I uploaded some photos. I did not pay that much for the car just wondering maybe someone did a replica or something. Just curious how I would find any history on the car. Or if it was even raced at all.
Title: Re: VIN history
Post by: Onguard916 on September 21, 2025, 10:45:17 PM
Quote from: 6T6SHELBY on September 21, 2025, 02:21:39 PMDid you buy this car out of Armonk, NY?
no bought it out of Santa cruz
Title: Re: VIN history
Post by: Bill on September 21, 2025, 10:45:43 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on September 21, 2025, 09:43:03 PMWell, he has come back twice and no update?

Picture have been added to his original post, again none of it shows anything other than amateur workmanship, nothing that shows what you would expect from a prototype of any kind. Instead, what I'm seeing is a local shop, not great welds, and a tale spun that I'm hoping did not take the OP for a bad ride.
Larger pics from the OP can be downloaded by right clicking his shots

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Title: Re: VIN history
Post by: Onguard916 on September 21, 2025, 10:55:20 PM
Quote from: Bill on September 21, 2025, 10:45:43 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on September 21, 2025, 09:43:03 PMWell, he has come back twice and no update?

Picture have been added to his original post, again none of it shows anything other than amateur workmanship, nothing that shows what you would expect from a prototype of any kind. Instead, what I'm seeing is a local shop, and a tale spun that I'm hoping did not take the OP for a bad ride.


well thanks for the info I'm pretty sure it wasn't a part of Shelby I just thought I would confirm. So someone just  built to look like race car.
Title: Re: VIN history
Post by: Bill on September 21, 2025, 10:58:24 PM
Quote from: Onguard916 on September 21, 2025, 10:55:20 PM
Quote from: Bill on September 21, 2025, 10:45:43 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on September 21, 2025, 09:43:03 PMWell, he has come back twice and no update?

Picture have been added to his original post, again none of it shows anything other than amateur workmanship, nothing that shows what you would expect from a prototype of any kind. Instead, what I'm seeing is a local shop, and a tale spun that I'm hoping did not take the OP for a bad ride.


well thanks for the info I'm pretty sure it wasn't a part of Shelby I just thought I would confirm. So someone just  built to look like race car.

Not a bad thing, but the more I looked at your original pictures up close and brightened in photoshop, the more I saw the welds and worried you got taken for a bumpy ride. Bottom line, as long as you are happy with it that is all that matters. However, if you plan to take it to a track and do some HPDE, my advice is to take it to a properly vetted race shop and have them go through the car top to bottom.

Title: Re: VIN history
Post by: Onguard916 on September 21, 2025, 11:05:34 PM
Quote from: Bill on September 21, 2025, 10:58:24 PM
Quote from: Onguard916 on September 21, 2025, 10:55:20 PM
Quote from: Bill on September 21, 2025, 10:45:43 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on September 21, 2025, 09:43:03 PMWell, he has come back twice and no update?

Picture have been added to his original post, again none of it shows anything other than amateur workmanship, nothing that shows what you would expect from a prototype of any kind. Instead, what I'm seeing is a local shop, and a tale spun that I'm hoping did not take the OP for a bad ride.


well thanks for the info I'm pretty sure it wasn't a part of Shelby I just thought I would confirm. So someone just  built to look like race car.

Not a bad thing, but the more I looked at your original pictures up close and brightened in photoshop, the more I saw the welds and worried you got taken for a bumpy ride. Bottom line, as long as you are happy with it that is all that matters. However, if you plan to take it to a track and do some HPDE, my advice is to take it to a properly vetted race shop and have them go through the car top to bottom.


I actually really like the car it's fast and handles great. Mainly just driving on the street. I wouldn't track the car at all My best friend is a fabricator so he will fix any metal work.
But ya this car is a lot of fun. Thanks for your honesty and knowledge.
Title: Re: VIN history
Post by: FL SAAC on September 22, 2025, 12:02:52 AM
Quote from: Onguard916 on September 21, 2025, 12:47:16 PMI just bought a 66 mustang hard top and I'm looking for some history about it. It was potentially a prototype car through Shelby America. It has all the racing equipment installed.

VIN 6R07C172438

Kool pictures, enjoy your ride!
Title: Re: VIN history
Post by: Coralsnake on September 22, 2025, 06:19:07 AM
Lets put a bow on this to answer your question

There is no way to get a complete VIN history for a Mustang.

The information you have provided us, is very good. All the cars assigned to Shelby have known serial numbers and some history.

Unfortunately, your car is not one of them.

A 1966 Shelby race car would have to be worth several hundred thousand dollars in my opinion, but others may know better.
Title: Re: VIN history
Post by: roddster on September 22, 2025, 10:43:44 AM
Just my observation when history of a car is involved: History is collected through the owner(s). There is no body that will be following a car around and taking notes about it for some future owner. That is up to the ownership chain. That is what provenance is all about.
Title: Re: VIN history
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on September 22, 2025, 05:06:39 PM
If it raced in SCCA there will be a number stamped on the cage - usually on back side of passenger upright bar. The first 2 digits are the region and the last the car number. This is the same number that will appear on the log book.
You are lucky if it was raced in Calif. CalClub has a historical listing of all the cars and their owners (most regions do not). I got lucky on mine. The original owner was still a member of CalClub and they sent me his contact info too. I got a lot of info and some pix from him. Now if I could just nail down who he sold it to in Portland and prove it did run in a TA race there before ending up stored in TX where I bought it.
Title: Re: VIN history
Post by: 68krrrr on October 01, 2025, 12:15:21 AM
Lets see a full body pic ,from i see it looks cool as heck