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The Cars => 1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 => Topic started by: cob428 on September 08, 2025, 07:47:57 AM

Title: Rear valance
Post by: cob428 on September 08, 2025, 07:47:57 AM
 Finishes and Sealer Guide for 1969 Dearborn Built Mustangs & Shelbly's

Rear valance hung and then body color applied,

 Were the screws holding the valance then painted body color also? I thought it was "hung loosely " didn't know at that point what that entailed?

Pete
Title: Re: Rear valance
Post by: Coralsnake on September 08, 2025, 07:51:11 AM
Usually it means only some of the screws were painted.
Title: Re: Rear valance
Post by: J_Speegle on September 08, 2025, 01:18:02 PM
At Dearborn all of the screws used to attach the valance to the body on Mustangs have been found painted so those attachment screws were installed before the cars exterior color was applied. Later the lower edge was pulled into the body to secure the valance to the car. This has been found also on Metuchen built cars but not, for Shelby's, earlier cars built at San Jose.

Of course the rear valances on 69 Shelby's those rear valances were removed, modified and reinstalled so that the exhaust could be accessed and modified.
Title: Re: Rear valance
Post by: TLea on September 10, 2025, 10:20:34 AM
Seen both removed/reinstalled painted screws and gold unpainted mixed together on 69/70 Shelby (not mustang)
Title: Re: Rear valance
Post by: J_Speegle on September 10, 2025, 01:41:07 PM
Quote from: TLea on September 10, 2025, 10:20:34 AMSeen both removed/reinstalled painted screws and gold unpainted mixed together on 69/70 Shelby (not mustang)

+1 Sorry I was not clearer above. Looks like they reused them and in the process some were likely dropped or lost so they used new ones for those attachment points.
Title: Re: Rear valance
Post by: cob428 on September 10, 2025, 06:42:38 PM
Thank you for all the replies.

Pete
Title: Re: Rear valance
Post by: Leterip on September 19, 2025, 09:55:52 PM
i have a similar question as to what are the type-and finish of the screws that attach the rear fiberglass valence to the chassis.  I know that they are sheet metal type screws but not sure at to head and finish.
Title: Re: Rear valance
Post by: Bob Gaines on September 20, 2025, 10:29:18 AM
Quote from: Leterip on September 19, 2025, 09:55:52 PMi have a similar question as to what are the type-and finish of the screws that attach the rear fiberglass valence to the chassis.  I know that they are sheet metal type screws but not sure at to head and finish.
Given the questions you have recently asked you and for others who may be reading there is a huge benefit from the assemblyline manuals. The illustrations identify the fasteners by their part number AND the finish they have. You cross reference that fastener part number in the companion book to the assemblyline manuals "AMK guide to fastener book" . These books are available from most large Mustang vendors.After looking number up in the back of the book it gives a page in the book to turn to . On that given page will give a picture of the fastener in question and also besides the number on that page the length and thread. In this case basically a zinc dichromate Philips head sheet met screw.
Title: Re: Rear valance
Post by: Bob Gaines on September 20, 2025, 10:45:53 AM
AMK sells hardware kits . NPD or Kentucky Mustang are a couple of well thought of vendors of those kits.  https://www.npdlink.com/product/mounting-kit-rear-valance-panel/144810  . They also sell the assemblyline manuals (chassis,body,electrical etc.  https://www.npdlink.com/product/chassis-assembly-manual-69-mustang/138101 and AMK guide to fasteners https://www.npdlink.com/product/amk-guide-to-ford-fasteners-by-amk-products/138107
Title: Re: Rear valance
Post by: Leterip on September 20, 2025, 11:00:37 AM
For the 1969 fast back mustang I have factory service manuals and I have also a Shelby parts list.  I have also searched all of the normal web sites for the answers I seek.  This includes cobranda and other similar sites.  Yes the valance is stock and i misspoke.  What I am trying to discern is what fastener was used by Ford to attach the fiberglass tail panel to the chassis.  This is the panel that the rear lights are mounted to. The AMK fastener book is a good resource but does it address what was used for a special production vehicles?  If so I will get it on order ASAP.
thank you for your interest.
As to aquiring an assembly line manual, I have not seen that resource on the usual sites like NPD etc. but I would love to have one.
Title: Re: Rear valance
Post by: Coralsnake on September 20, 2025, 11:06:22 AM
There is no "cobranda"

Branda just added the "co" to the front of their name for the website.

But, thats old school information I guess
Title: Re: Rear valance
Post by: Bob Gaines on September 20, 2025, 11:13:40 AM
Quote from: Leterip on September 20, 2025, 11:00:37 AMFor the 1969 fast back mustang I have factory service manuals and I have also a Shelby parts list.  I have also searched all of the normal web sites for the answers I seek.  This includes cobranda and other similar sites.  Yes the valance is stock and i misspoke.  What I am trying to discern is what fastener was used by Ford to attach the fiberglass tail panel to the chassis.  This is the panel that the rear lights are mounted to. The AMK fastener book is a good resource but does it address what was used for a special production vehicles?  If so I will get it on order ASAP.
thank you for your interest.
As to aquiring an assembly line manual, I have not seen that resource on the usual sites like NPD etc. but I would love to have one.
I posted a link to click on for the assemblyline manuals on NPD. AMK also sells a correct kit for the 69/70 Shelby fiberglass taillight panel. You will have to go to the AMK site for that.  https://www.amkproducts.com/i-kits/ford-individual-fastener-kits/?year_=1969&model=Mustang&category=Body
Title: Re: Rear valance
Post by: shelbymann1970 on September 25, 2025, 05:52:41 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on September 20, 2025, 10:45:53 AMAMK sells hardware kits . NPD or Kentucky Mustang are a couple of well thought of vendors of those kits.  https://www.npdlink.com/product/mounting-kit-rear-valance-panel/144810  . They also sell the assemblyline manuals (chassis,body,electrical etc.  https://www.npdlink.com/product/chassis-assembly-manual-69-mustang/138101 and AMK guide to fasteners https://www.npdlink.com/product/amk-guide-to-ford-fasteners-by-amk-products/138107
I got one of the FIRST Guide to fasteners from Max in the 90s. I forgot how long I had to wait but it was worth it. It's a must along with Osborn assy manuals. too bad there isn't a 69 interior manual.I know there is a 70 but never a 69. Another good book is the Mustang illustration catalog 1965-1973 as it has assy pages not found in the Osborn manuals.
Title: Re: Rear valance
Post by: shelbymann1970 on September 25, 2025, 05:56:20 PM
Quote from: Leterip on September 20, 2025, 11:00:37 AMFor the 1969 fast back mustang I have factory service manuals and I have also a Shelby parts list.  I have also searched all of the normal web sites for the answers I seek.  This includes cobranda and other similar sites.  Yes the valance is stock and i misspoke.  What I am trying to discern is what fastener was used by Ford to attach the fiberglass tail panel to the chassis.  This is the panel that the rear lights are mounted to. The AMK fastener book is a good resource but does it address what was used for a special production vehicles?  If so I will get it on order ASAP.
thank you for your interest.
As to aquiring an assembly line manual, I have not seen that resource on the usual sites like NPD etc. but I would love to have one.
AMK sellls shelby specific fasteners also. Since I could get them I have all the osborn manuals available for 68 and 69 plus the illustration book and the guide to fasteners by AMK plus Ford shop manuals including the Shelby specific portion(got some mint ones). Can't have enough of them for reference.