We had a great concours at SAAC-50, 23 total cars registered, the highest number I can remember for at least the past 10-15 years.
The concours location was on the far end of the paddock by the tree line. We had a cordoned off area and 2 20x20 tents. Lots of positive comments.
Every class was represented, we had at least one car in Shelby(65, 66, 67, 68, 69-70), Cobra, Boss, Survivor and Competition.
Results-
Survivor:
1966 GT350 Kevin Blair - Gold
1967 GT350 Britton Whitworth - Gold
Competition:
1966 Ford GT40 Peter Klutt - Gold
1966 Cobra Peter Klutt - Gold
Division I - Concours, no repro
1968 GT500 Convertible Don Bell - Premier
1969 Boss 429 Drew Alcazar - Premier
Division II - Concours, repro allowed
1964 Cobra John Friesen - Gold
1965 GT350 Dave Riccitello - Gold
1965 GT350 Rich Goldman - Gold
1965 GT350 John Dwyer - Gold
1965 GT350 John McClintlock - Silver
1966 GT350 Michal Querio - Gold
1966 GT350H Ben Wagoner - Gold
1966 GT350H Alan White - Bronze
1967 GT500 Peter Klutt - Bronze
1967 GT500 Dan Weltman - Gold
1968 GT500KR Convertible Kenneth Funk - Silver
1969 GT500 John Warren - None (Late entry, evaluation provided)
1970 Boss 302 Drew Houghton - Bronze
1970 Boss 429 Dennis Murfin - Premier
Many thanks to all the owners that brought their cars, it was a most excellent line up of concours cars! Also, many thanks to all of our judges and those that assisted this year!
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Wasn't Dan Weltman's car a 1967 GT500 not a 1970 ?
Great job by all the entrants! Its a big lift to step up and show your car. Hopefully everyone is happy with the results.
Always willing to help, if I can.
Outstanding! A great showing of cars.
I was told there were no 69 or 70's that registered .
Pete
Congratulations to all the participants and winners !
Quote from: JD on August 28, 2025, 09:11:21 AMWasn't Dan Weltman's car a 1967 GT500 not a 1970 ?
Yes, updated list, thanks.
Quote from: cob428 on August 28, 2025, 10:15:24 AMI was told there were no 69 or 70's that registered .
We had a red one. Will update list with correct info.
Correction: 1970 Boss 429 Dennis Murfin received Gold/Premiere.
A sincere thank you to all of the judges and participants - it was a fun day for sure ! I for one learned quite a bit of detailed information as well !
And also great to meet a lot of the people and cars there from this SAAC forum...
Cheers -
Dave -
Quote from: nctrucks on August 28, 2025, 01:08:38 PMCorrection: 1970 Boss 429 Dennis Murfin received Gold/Premiere.
That car was entered in Div II concours, Premiere is only for Div I.
Do The Concourse cars have to be registered prior to show starting or can they register the day of the show? Reason why I am asking I was told a week prior to the show there were no 69 or '70s registered.
According to: SAAC Concours Guidelines March 3rd 2022
Page 4 Scoring Standards/Awards
Clearly shows: Division I / II / III
Level Premiere
Myself and 350 other award banquet attendees heard the announcement of receiving Premiere.
SAAC Concours Guidelines March 3rd 2022
Page 5
In the "past", Premier was only a level in Division 1.
Interesting, so the tents were for the judges area and officials, not the cars and their owners.
nctrucks : The Guidelines have not been updated recently and in fact we discussed the need and some additional information that needed to be included at the show this week. First draft of the new version was started on Sunday. Glad to see someone is reading them and knew where to find them :)
Quote from: JD on August 28, 2025, 03:30:25 PMIn the "past", Premier was only a level in Division 1.
That still remains. It's the "level" Premier - above Gold - in Div I where the required score is 98% of the total or above.
Quote from: Mikelj5S230 on August 28, 2025, 04:44:56 PMInteresting, so the tents were for the judges area and officials, not the cars and their owners.
That's not completely correct. The tents have always been used by staff to run the show and to provide shade (well most of the time) while judging teams go over the scoring sheets after they have seen the cars and assign points to any deductions noted and observed. This helps reduce the possibility of heat stroke, heat exhaustion and keeps out workers safe. We have also shared the tented areas when big enough and multiple ones have been supplied in the past. This year one tent was used to display a beautiful GT40. Since the area is known for strong powerful winds the approx. eight large 3x3x3 concrete blocks used to secure them to the ground took up a lot of space and owners as well as us were concerned of the tight spaces left to get the cars in and move them around.
Edited to make the requirement for Premier clearer I hope
Quote from: cob428 on August 28, 2025, 01:51:37 PMDo The Concourse cars have to be registered prior to show starting or can they register the day of the show? Reason why I am asking I was told a week prior to the show there were no 69 or '70s registered.
Generally, registration closes before the show so that we can make sure there are adequate number of qualified judges available as well as copies of the sheets and supporting material, flashlights, mats, space for the cars ....... and on.
If we had open entry up to the minute the show starts there would likely be mass confusion and the show would not go off as smoothly as they often do. Interested in how this impacts you... did you miss the entry closure, were you looking to volunteer as a helper/judge or something else? Plenty to do especially day of the show day. It's not very glamorous but can be really rewarding as well as meeting a lot of great people
I had reached out a couple of different times in the forum to ask if there were any updates if any 69 -70" were showing up and was told 2 times on the 11th and the 12th not yet. I was there all-day Friday and even went to the tent area and asked Friday if there were any 69-70s registered and was told no again.
Of course, I didnt show up Saturday (happy wife happy life) but when I showed up Sunday one of the GT350 owners told me there were 69-70's being judged in concourse. WE stress to try and find vehicles built in your same date range to get ideas if you want to show in concours, but it doesnt help when you get the incorrect information.
Not criticizing, just trying to prepare myself better next time.
Pete
Quote from: J_Speegle on August 28, 2025, 04:46:15 PMQuote from: Mikelj5S230 on August 28, 2025, 04:44:56 PMInteresting, so the tents were for the judges area and officials, not the cars and their owners.
That's not completely correct. The tents have always been used by staff to run the show and to provide shade (well most of the time) while judging teams go over the scoring sheets after they have seen the cars and assign points to any deductions noted and observed. This helps reduce the possibility of heat stroke, heat exhaustion and keeps out workers safe. We have also shared the tented areas when big enough and multiple ones have been supplied in the past. This year one tent was used to display a beautiful GT40. Since the area is known for strong powerful winds the approx. eight large 3x3x3 concrete blocks used to secure them to the ground took up a lot of space and owners as well as us were concerned of the tight spaces left to get the cars in and move them around.
Well, the owners and their cars were still out in the sun, and exposed to the elements, on the asphalt the entire time. As I expected when I canceled. I expected more than a cars and coffee type show and shine for SAAC 50 Concours Judging.
Quote from: cob428 on August 28, 2025, 06:05:20 PMI had reached out a couple of different times in the forum to ask if there were any updates if any 69 -70" were showing up and was told 2 times on the 11th and the 12th not yet. I was there all-day Friday and even went to the tent area and asked Friday if there were any 69-70s registered and was told no again.
Of course, I didnt show up Saturday (happy wife happy life) but when I showed up Sunday one of the GT350 owners told me there were 69-70's being judged in concourse. WE stress to try and find vehicles built in your same date range to get ideas if you want to show in concours, but it doesnt help when you get the incorrect information.
Not criticizing, just trying to prepare myself better next time.
Pete
Thanks for taking the time to type that all out. Would mention that if you notice in the results that car was not judges for an award but provided with an evaluation with no awards offered or given. This is done in certain conditions based on the leaderships decision after consulting with the Judges in that class and the owner/representative.
Hope you found other 69's that attended that were built around the same time to help with your search.
Quote from: Mikelj5S230 on August 28, 2025, 06:23:51 PMWell, the owners and their cars were still out in the sun, and exposed to the elements, on the asphalt the entire time. As I expected when I canceled. I expected more than a cars and coffee type show and shine for SAAC 50 Concours Judging.
Cars and Coffee shows in your area have formal judging with dedicated judges who some have done that job for decades? Also based on a nation standard with nationally recognized trophies and recognition given at the biggest auction houses (just one example) around the country and often outside also? I personally don't typically go cars and coffee shows, there are typically 5-6 a week around here, but haven't seen anything like SAAC Concours at any of them. If you have such a cars & coffee show like you suggest let me know as I would love to see that especially if we could attend it together and compare shows and their features.
I dare say that if you had entered a car, observed the process and participated in that process you might have a different opinion than you have expressed above. Guess we could consider quadrupling, or more, the cost of the entry fee and gotten one tent per car. Cost of the tents was very high compared to those shows we have had in other states from my understanding and had to be rented from approved companies that had all the permits, California certification and standards required as well as the insurance to cover the liability. If the requirements had not include those big concrete blocks we could have used them slightly differently, but when it comes down to choosing between protecting the judges, volunteers, spectators and others or getting some sun on the cars I know how have chose over the last fifty plus years judging.
Seems we didn't reach your expectations but based on your earlier posts it could be anticipated. A suggestion would be to get involved, make the suggestions formally to the board and see if you can make things better for you at a upcoming show.
Quote from: J_Speegle on August 28, 2025, 04:46:15 PMnctrucks : The Guidelines have not been updated recently and in fact we discussed the need and some additional information that needed to be included at the show this week. First draft of the new version was started on Sunday. Glad to see someone is reading them and knew where to find them :)
Quote from: JD on August 28, 2025, 03:30:25 PMIn the "past", Premier was only a level in Division 1.
That still remains. It's the "level" above Gold in Div I where the required score is 98% of the total.
(The Guidelines have not been updated recently and in fact we discussed the need and some additional information that needed to be included at the show this week)
First draft of the new version was started on Sunday? New Draft should have nothing to do with this show results.
As an exhibitor. Reading them and know where to find them :) Concours Guidelines 2022 page 4 should be in effect at the time of the judging and awards?
Gold/Premiere award should be given as announced at the banquet.
Charles,
Thank you for posting these results.
Any chance that you can provide the Shelby numbers on at least the '65 and '66 cars?
Quote from: nctrucks on August 28, 2025, 08:17:09 PMQuote from: J_Speegle on August 28, 2025, 04:46:15 PMnctrucks : The Guidelines have not been updated recently and in fact we discussed the need and some additional information that needed to be included at the show this week. First draft of the new version was started on Sunday. Glad to see someone is reading them and knew where to find them :)
Quote from: JD on August 28, 2025, 03:30:25 PMIn the "past", Premier was only a level in Division 1.
That still remains. It's the "level" above Gold in Div I where the required score is 98% of the total.
(The Guidelines have not been updated recently and in fact we discussed the need and some additional information that needed to be included at the show this week)
First draft of the new version was started on Sunday? New Draft should have nothing to do with this show results.
As an exhibitor. Reading them and know where to find them :) Concours Guidelines 2022 page 4 should be in effect at the time of the judging and awards?
Gold/Premiere award should be given as announced at the banquet.
I was referring to the lack of notation in your reply #26 where it does not identify Premiere Award as being possible only in Div I. Like we have included on the face page of each judging sheet for over a decade. Because of that it very well could lead to confusion and is a mistake IMO and I was simply informing the membership that it is being correct since you posted it and many likely noticed.
Was not at the banquet but cars that received either award Premiere or Gold should have been identified as such. Not sure who read the results since as stated I was not in attendance. Sorry that this created confusion for some and we'll make efforts to not have it take place in the future. Can't think of anything we can do this moment to change what took place based on your report only what we can do in the future. If you have any please share them in a PM or here if it would be productive to everyone.
Thanks
As a note: I slightly adjusted to make the required minimum percentage for Premier cleared in Reply #20. Didn't look right originally
Quote from: Brant on August 28, 2025, 09:57:13 PMCharles,
Thank you for posting these results.
Any chance that you can provide the Shelby numbers on at least the '65 and '66 cars?
Out of town this weekend, will update when possible.
Quote from: Brant on August 28, 2025, 09:57:13 PMCharles,
Thank you for posting these results.
Any chance that you can provide the Shelby numbers on at least the '65 and '66 cars?
Brant I've got the following from the 66's. Missing one from the list I believe.
6S348
6S1618
6S1812
6S2268
Hope this helps a little
It has now been determined it is SAACs responsibility to make sure you feel "comfortable" at judged events.
If you have special dietary needs, desire a cold drink or want a friend, please notify SAAC before judging starts. Therapists are standing by.
Just kidding. Real life doesn't offer participation awards.
Thank you Pete, for staying in character.......
Quote from: J_Speegle on August 28, 2025, 08:13:35 PMCars and Coffee shows in your area have formal judging with dedicated judges who some have done that job for decades? Also based on a nation standard with nationally recognized trophies and recognition given at the biggest auction houses (just one example) around the country and often outside also? I personally don't typically go cars and coffee shows, there are typically 5-6 a week around here, but haven't seen anything like SAAC Concours at any of them. If you have such a cars & coffee show like you suggest let me know as I would love to see that especially if we could attend it together and compare shows and their features.
I dare say that if you had entered a car, observed the process and participated in that process you might have a different opinion than you have expressed above. Guess we could consider quadrupling, or more, the cost of the entry fee and gotten one tent per car. Cost of the tents was very high compared to those shows we have had in other states from my understanding and had to be rented from approved companies that had all the permits, California certification and standards required as well as the insurance to cover the liability. If the requirements had not include those big concrete blocks we could have used them slightly differently, but when it comes down to choosing between protecting the judges, volunteers, spectators and others or getting some sun on the cars I know how have chose over the last fifty plus years judging.
Seems we didn't reach your expectations but based on your earlier posts it could be anticipated. A suggestion would be to get involved, make the suggestions formally to the board and see if you can make things better for you at a upcoming show.
Thanks for your insights Jeff. I was not comparing judging at cars and coffee show and shine events to SAAC Concours. I was comparing the "sit outside in the sun all day in your folding chair" component, which is the same. And as a 300+ point NCRS judge with decades of experience judging, I am aware of the expertise and experience SAAC judges bring to the field. My experience at SAAC 40 caused me to withdraw from active SAAC judging, but I wanted to try it again, and thought SAAC 50 would be the place to start. But then the reality of the venue made me reconsider and withdraw by application. I do not do outdoor judging events, it is not comfortable for judges or entrants and since numerous indoor venues are out there (we have never had an NCRS National outside in my experience), I think it does not speak well of the organization to do it that way. But that is just my opinion and my standards, yours obviously vary and you are entitled to them. With Mid-America going down for judging, and MCA rarely offering indoor venues, I suspect I will never have 5S230 judged. But I will remain vigilant for any opportunities, maybe like Indiana SAAC at French Lick. BTW, I seriously doubt the SAAC board has any interest in hearing from me, so I will not waste my time on that.
I want to extend a huge thank you to Everyone on the concourse team! I was working, representing two cars entered. The team could not have been more helpful! We are always learning and they are always willing to help! To add to Brants request, the other 66 was 6S242.
Quote from: Mikelj5S230 on August 29, 2025, 10:50:17 AMQuote from: J_Speegle on August 28, 2025, 08:13:35 PMCars and Coffee shows in your area have formal judging with dedicated judges who some have done that job for decades? Also based on a nation standard with nationally recognized trophies and recognition given at the biggest auction houses (just one example) around the country and often outside also? I personally don't typically go cars and coffee shows, there are typically 5-6 a week around here, but haven't seen anything like SAAC Concours at any of them. If you have such a cars & coffee show like you suggest let me know as I would love to see that especially if we could attend it together and compare shows and their features.
I dare say that if you had entered a car, observed the process and participated in that process you might have a different opinion than you have expressed above. Guess we could consider quadrupling, or more, the cost of the entry fee and gotten one tent per car. Cost of the tents was very high compared to those shows we have had in other states from my understanding and had to be rented from approved companies that had all the permits, California certification and standards required as well as the insurance to cover the liability. If the requirements had not include those big concrete blocks we could have used them slightly differently, but when it comes down to choosing between protecting the judges, volunteers, spectators and others or getting some sun on the cars I know how have chose over the last fifty plus years judging.
Seems we didn't reach your expectations but based on your earlier posts it could be anticipated. A suggestion would be to get involved, make the suggestions formally to the board and see if you can make things better for you at a upcoming show.
Thanks for your insights Jeff. I was not comparing judging at cars and coffee show and shine events to SAAC Concours. I was comparing the "sit outside in the sun all day in your folding chair" component, which is the same. And as a 300+ point NCRS judge with decades of experience judging, I am aware of the expertise and experience SAAC judges bring to the field. My experience at SAAC 40 caused me to withdraw from active SAAC judging, but I wanted to try it again, and thought SAAC 50 would be the place to start. But then the reality of the venue made me reconsider and withdraw by application. I do not do outdoor judging events, it is not comfortable for judges or entrants and since numerous indoor venues are out there (we have never had an NCRS National outside in my experience), I think it does not speak well of the organization to do it that way. But that is just my opinion and my standards, yours obviously vary and you are entitled to them. With Mid-America going down for judging, and MCA rarely offering indoor venues, I suspect I will never have 5S230 judged. But I will remain vigilant for any opportunities, maybe like Indiana SAAC at French Lick. BTW, I seriously doubt the SAAC board has any interest in hearing from me, so I will not waste my time on that.
That you repeat ad nauseam !
Quote from: JD on August 29, 2025, 11:16:01 AMThat you repeat ad nauseam !
Sorry to offend you by speaking my opinions. But I did think that is what this discussion forum is about. I do know any criticism is usually not appreciated here however, I have been around a long time.
I heard that, the week before SAAC50, the Pebble Beach Concours had cars sitting out in the open sun, in the salt air near a huge ocean, after it drizzled in the morning.
I'd like to thank the organizers of SAAC50 for providing dry air and actual pavement to park the cars on, instead of that damp, dirt-laden grass. All the best cars were there and looked great gleaming in the sun.
It was a great day in whine country.
Quote from: Mikelj5S230 on August 29, 2025, 10:50:17 AMBTW, I seriously doubt the SAAC board has any interest in hearing from me, so I will not waste my time on that.
What an incredibly naive statement... reach out and try.
I can only point out. as well, that, during the week prior, we all enjoyed the Pebble Beach concours, where mega-multi-million dollar cars actually drove on wet grass, where evaporating moisture soaked their undercarriage, while the cars sat out in the sun all day... immersed with the caustic, salt-infused air from the Pacific...
...and they didn't mind that.
We will keep your contact info and alert you about the next opportunity to be judged indoors, ...If I don't see you at French Lick this Fall.
Isn't it also the case at Pebble Beach that participants are invited to drive their very expensive cars (the horror!) on a tour? Geez, driving a very very expensive car...outside...in the sun! What will they think of next??
While I didn't participate in the Concours portion of SAAC-50 I went over and watched. It was a beautiful day! Complete with beautiful automobiles. Well done. Being different than the NCRS guys is fine with me.
Yes, I have entered a few of these de Elegance type elite events. But somehow a manicured lawn, fairway, and greens on a famous golf course overlooking the ocean is more attractive and comfortable than an asphalt parking lot at a race track. At least IMO, yours may differ and that is fine.
OK, now I'm confused.
So you really wouldn't care that much if the cars are in the sun, or not, if it's on a famous golf course ?
Shelbys at a race track ? So out of place. Who'd have thunk that ?
If it had been held at the Pebble Beach course, yes, I would have stayed entered. I am not into being a boy racer with old cars. Race tracks don't interest me, unless it is a flying mile, like the Texas Mile, where I am a member of the 200+ MPH Club. Again, just my opinion, yours may differ and that is fine.
I always equated Shelbys with performance and racing, I guess, and i appreciate the heritage. I never got the impression he was too concerned with how pretty the cars are or how they'd present at shows.
Perhaps Corvettes are different. Corvettes were built to be pretty, and most of them are. Shelbys were built to beat Corvettes by out-shining them on race tracks, not golf courses.
But most people buy cars to drive. And a few buy cars to shine and admire. And that's fine.
Quote from: last2brake on August 29, 2025, 01:58:34 PMI always equated Shelbys with performance and racing, I guess, and i appreciate the heritage. I never got the impression he was too concerned with how pretty the cars are or how they'd present at shows.
Perhaps Corvettes are different. Corvettes were built to be pretty, and most of them are. Shelbys were built to beat Corvettes by out-shining them on race tracks, not golf courses.
But most people buy cars to drive. And a few buy cars to shine and admire. And that's fine.
I have always equated '60s Shelbys and Corvettes, along with some Cougars like the GTE, and Chrysler 300 letter cars with long cross ram 413s, and ones like the 4 speed dual quad positraction 409s, with performance and elite ownership, since as a teen in the '60s I could never afford any of them. But the rich kids in our little town growing up could afford a '65-'66 GT350 or the others. Few I knew raced these cars except at local drag races, and I never had the resources to go to any other race venues, and living in NM, there really weren't any.
So when I retired early and had enough money, I started buying them and finding places to drive them to, trailer them to, and show them off. Judging became a hobby to participate in, both as a judge and as a car owner, and I found it a very satisfying and rewarding way to spend my retirement.
I drive all my cars, to get groceries, buy auto parts (I just went to the newly opened AutoZone today in my 409), and of course cars and coffee, Vintage Car Club meets, Team Shelby Rocky Mountain Region and Corvette Club cruises, etc. When it comes to driving, the 2 least enjoyable ones to drive around are 5S230, and my '63 Corvette Z06 tanker. Both are really race cars that are lousy on the street, ride and drive like trucks, no A/C or power options, etc. But they are fun to show off.
Why was the huge shaded area underneath the grandstands not used for judging? You could probably fit thirty or forty cars underneath there. I have parked under there at various events and so have others
Roy
Good point, but..
1. Track management does not allow vehicles with gas in their tanks under the grandstand.
2. Too.much noise with track proximity
3. Complaints in the past of dust and debris under the seats.
Quote from: computerworks on August 29, 2025, 06:43:56 PMGood point, but..
1. Track management does not allow vehicles with gas in their tanks under the grandstand.
I have been to sears point, probably fifty or sixty times and have seen vehicles underneath there most of the times I've been there.
2. Too.much noise with track proximity
Didn't know that peace and quite was a requirement.
3. Complaints in the past of dust and debris under the seats.
Not even sure exactly what that means.
I did notice some judges laying on the asphalt, which made me wonder why there wasn't even a cheap harbor freight movers blanket on the ground for them to lay on. You should also consider investing in a set of race ramps which would make everything easier:
72" Race Ramps - 10.8 degree incline | Race Ramps https://share.google/Zr5mcwEBTq0QMjpo3
I'm sure that everywhen that is having their car judged, would not mind a small, five or ten dollar fee to helpe cover the cost of buying some of them. I have a set at home which I use and would have brought over.
Roy
OK, I think I'll finally respond here. And yes, I was at saac 40 that Mike is talking about which was an indoor event but loading the cars was challenging because of the torrential rain outside. I have been coming to saac convention since 1974 and the weather and conditions were as nice this past weekend as I have ever seen. 80° sunshine and a beautiful light breeze all day, I was out judging for over eight hours and never broke a sweat once. I wouldn't want to be under the grandstands as we had that experience Indy it's rather miserable. The location was perfect. The weather was perfect, and the owners were incredible. There were two division one Cars and two cobra's out there as well as a GT 40 so I don't think anybody was particularly concerned about their cars being exposed to unfavorable conditions. I know people I've had mixed experiences in the past with judging, and I have been involved in those more times than I care to remember, but at some point, you gotta move out of the past and just recognize there's a lot of people working very hard here to make this all that it can be. Time to exercise the ghosts and demons from the past and move forward.
Quote from: TA Coupe on August 29, 2025, 07:29:57 PMI did notice some judges laying on the asphalt, which made me wonder why there wasn't even a cheap harbor freight movers blanket on the ground for them to lay on. You should also consider investing in a set of race ramps which would make everything easier:
72" Race Ramps - 10.8 degree incline | Race Ramps https://share.google/Zr5mcwEBTq0QMjpo3
I'm sure that everywhen that is having their car judged, would not mind a small, five or ten dollar fee to helpe cover the cost of buying some of them. I have a set at home which I use and would have brought over.
We had movers blankets for judges to use, at least every team had one and there were several still in the wrapper that weren't used.
We judged under the grand stands at Indy and the noise physically wore us all out. Might as well have been out in the sun the whole day, would have been equally worn out.
Race ramps are a good idea, but pose a safety risk and risk of damaging cars, SAAC doesn't need a lawsuit or insurance claim. While some of our SAAC judges are a little slower getting up, we usually do fine with judging undercarriages on the ground. At the French Lick show, we have the luxury of judging cars on a 4 post lift, so that's been an option the past few years and this coming Fall.
Appreciate all the feedback here.
I did not see the judging in person but this picture is why I made the comment that I did, because I can't see anything on the ground that they are laying on. My apologies for misinterpreting the picture. The caption for this picture said it was during the judging process.
Roy
I helped judge Saturday. We had stacks of moving blankets which some chose to use but others didn't. While it was certainly a warm day, it wasn't anywhere near as hot as it's normally for Sonoma.
Yes, outdoor meets have their charms. I think it is all a matter of preference and, as we get older, a matter of convenience and comfort. Outdoor meets that have great weather are always remembered fondly, and those with pouring rain, heat, wind., etc., not so much. The problem for me is making a decision on a 2000 mile tow, and taking your chances on weather months ahead of time. I chose not to, and maybe in retrospect, I made a mistake. But it is my opinion you will get more cars if the meet is indoors. Yes, it costs more, but these 1/2 million $$+ cars are owned by people who can afford that.
The unused chassis inspection equipment reminds me of our chapter's outdoor regional judging meet outdoors on a hotel parking lot here in NM 15 years ago, when we were all younger and spryer. We purchased 2 dozen soft foam camping pads for the chassis judges. But we were tough, and nobody wanted to admit they needed one........ 8) Ah, the joys of youth.
Mike, most of us know you have really nice cars. Some of the rest of us do, too.
We drove 3 days, each way, to show our Div. I outdoors at SAAC-50, plus got down on the ground and judged at age 74.
Register your car, now, for IN-SAAC French Lick Concours; haul it to this great, comfortable, indoor venue with on-lift judging.
It's that simple.
Really--it's that simple---just do it!
Don
French lick has 7 openings left.
Judging sheets are scanned and were sent out this morning.
Please contact me if you did not receive your judging sheet:Mike Shally
We are also asking the owners to update and confirm their information for the trophies,
please include shipping address, name you want on trophy, serial number, description of car
(GT 350 or Boss 429 are examples)
Once the trophy is made it takes along time to have it remade and you have to pay to shipping back to the manufacture.
I also want to thank everyone who made this convention a great success
Quote from: 68blk500c on September 01, 2025, 09:52:07 PMMike, most of us know you have really nice cars. Some of the rest of us do, too.
We drove 3 days, each way, to show our Div. I outdoors at SAAC-50, plus got down on the ground and judged at age 74.
Register your car, now, for IN-SAAC French Lick Concours; haul it to this great, comfortable, indoor venue with on-lift judging.
It's that simple.
Really--it's that simple---just do it!
Don
Thanks for the kind words Don, but it now appears I have a family conflict with the French Lick date. Maybe next time, French Lick has a great facility in most all ways, we had the NCRS National there in 2023, and will again in 2027. Sorry to miss it.
A great showing of cars.