Okay everyone after much consideration I have decided to keep and start restoring my GT500. I'm wanting to see if anyone could help with a list of colors the engine and all the brackets need to be. I'm taking the block to a ford engine builder here in NC and he will give it back to me already broke in. I'll need to send the carbs, air cleaner, and valve covers off to get restored, but not sure who does this. This car is all original so I'm wanting to go back as stock as I can possibly afford without doing a concourse restoration. My plans is to get the engine done and get her back on the road as a driver quality car. So he was asking me for the color codes on the entire engine, and all materials bolted to the engine. Thanks for any help or direction you could give me. I have restored multiple cars, but this is my first real shelby.
For your parts I would send them to a reputable shop so they are restored correctly and get returned without any issues. I highly recommend Jim Cowles at Shelby Parts and Restorations. Great guy and your parts will look amazing! Good luck with the car she sounds like a nice one!
Send everything you have to Jim at Shelby Parts. I would also recommend sending him your suspension and steering components as well.
"back as stock as I can possibly afford without doing a concourse restoration"
and here we go again^ ...Everytime I post I'm reminded of why I don't deal with this forum.
Quote from: jgroce1985 on September 09, 2018, 09:04:02 PM
and here we go again^ ...Everytime I post I'm reminded of why I don't deal with this forum.
Yup, this place is not for everyone....
I'm not sure that's something I would brag about, or be proud of.
Anyways, thanks to the ones that suggested, as well as sent me PM's with contact info I really appreciate it.
Quote from: jgroce1985 on September 09, 2018, 09:04:02 PM
and here we go again^ ...Everytime I post I'm reminded of why I don't deal with this forum.
Holy cow! How did it degenerate into this? We have to stop the negativity or there soon won't be anyone left on here. Conversely, don't let a simple remark sour you to the whole forum. We all need thicker skins than that.
Its not that difficult. The engine guys job is to get it running. You can do the detailing.
You can do this.... but there is no easy button. You will need to do a little research.
Im not 1967 guy, but let you man get the engine running and leave it unpainted or get a coat of primer on it if you are worried about flash rust.
I have a custom made engine stand I use. It lets the engine sit about six inches off the floor. A lot easier to move around and you cant drop the engine on the pan.
When the engine comes back, you will have to disassemble some of it for detailing and painting
Find a survivor or a show car, post the individual questions here. Im sure people will help.
Quote from: jgroce1985 on September 10, 2018, 06:59:02 AM
I'm not sure that's something I would brag about, or be proud of.
Anyways, thanks to the ones that suggested, as well as sent me PM's with contact info I really appreciate it.
+ 1 wishing you the best on your project and remember life is short, enjoy the ride
[quote"back as stock as I can possibly afford without doing a concourse restoration"
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Everyone can't be in the 'elite' group but shouldn't be shamed. :(
TOB
Quote from: Coralsnake on September 10, 2018, 07:42:19 AM
Its not that difficult. The engine guys job is to get it running. You can do the detailing.
You can do this.... but there is no easy button. You will need to do a little research.
Im not 1967 guy, but let you man get the engine running and leave it unpainted or get a coat of primer on it if you are worried about flash rust.
I have a custom made engine stand I use. It lets the engine sit about six inches off the floor. A lot easier to move around and you cant drop the engine on the pan.
When the engine comes back, you will have to disassemble some of it for detailing and painting
Find a survivor or a show car, post the individual questions here. Im sure people will help.
Well put. Enjoy the restoration jgroce1985, I'm sure it will be great.
as Pete says, get the parts in primer as you will end up detailing them twice if you have the engine run in . I used to do this on a stand I built but I started looking at the cost/benefits and I now bring all our engine to a local shop and they put them on the dyno which allows them to put some stress on the engine and break in the rings and the rest of the parts. They also set the timing proper, set the carb close and check for leaks . Running on a stand really doesnt do anything other than seeing if it leaks if you get right down to it .
I usually give them as few detailed parts as possible as they are in to functionality rather than being pretty. so find a set of valve cover clean cores for a 390 and put the pretty Cobra ones On last
Have any questions give me a shout 920 434 3645
What do you use to clean the engine after the Dyno run-in and before paint? Denatured alcohol?
Thanks Everyone, I guess the builders questions are which brackets are black which are aluminum color, things of that nature. I have been trying to look at pictures of restored engines to give him this info to the best of my ability
I have used the "mustang Detailing guide" by K.A. Helm for a lot of the standard mustang items knowing that some specific Shelby only items will be different i.e. ballancer is semi black instead of corp. blue etc. then there is the over spray items like the intake etc.
Quote from: jgroce1985 on September 10, 2018, 06:59:02 AM
I'm not sure that's something I would brag about, or be proud of.
Anyways, thanks to the ones that suggested, as well as sent me PM's with contact info I really appreciate it.
I wasn't bragging, just saying. Also I'm not sure corbins was being derogatory.
Way to come out of the gate swinging, just saying. Sugar/vinegar/flies.
Quote from: 2112 on September 10, 2018, 11:58:17 AM
What do you use to clean the engine after the Dyno run-in and before paint? Denatured alcohol?
I use wax and silicone remover you can buy at any paint store. Right before I paint over the primered parts I clean that with straight clean lacquer thinner. The primer gets real hard after the heat cycles so the thinner softens it a little so the blue paint stick better
Quote from: Chris Thauberger on September 10, 2018, 02:34:52 PM
Quote from: jgroce1985 on September 10, 2018, 06:59:02 AM
I'm not sure that's something I would brag about, or be proud of.
Anyways, thanks to the ones that suggested, as well as sent me PM's with contact info I really appreciate it.
I wasn't bragging, just saying. Also I'm not sure corbins was being derogatory.
Way to come out of the gate swinging, just saying. Sugar/vinegar/flies.
We are still on this? Come out swinging? I'm not the one that started anything, other than a simple thread with a simple question. Obviously some have a problem with sticking with the subject. Anyways I've dropped it and I'm moving on, please do the same. Thanks
Quote from: jgroce1985 on September 10, 2018, 01:18:25 PM
Thanks Everyone, I guess the builders questions are which brackets are black which are aluminum color, things of that nature. I have been trying to look at pictures of restored engines to give him this info to the best of my ability
FYI i had copied this link that is part 2 of 428 engine
http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-to/engine/1803-428-cobra-jet-engine-detailing-part-2/
you should be able to find part 1 and 3
also keep doing what you are doing, it is your shelby...haters will be haters...lmao
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on September 10, 2018, 07:50:00 PM
Quote from: jgroce1985 on September 10, 2018, 01:18:25 PM
Thanks Everyone, I guess the builders questions are which brackets are black which are aluminum color, things of that nature. I have been trying to look at pictures of restored engines to give him this info to the best of my ability
FYI i had copied this link that is part 2 of 428 engine
http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-to/engine/1803-428-cobra-jet-engine-detailing-part-2/
you should be able to find part 1 and 3
also keep doing what you are doing, it is your shelby...haters will be haters...lmao
Great article for a 68 69 70 428 "CobraJet" but not so much for a 67 GT500. I am sure it was meant to be helpful but most likely It will be confusing determining the things that are the same and the things that are different on a 67 GT500 for someone who doesn't know.
Quote from: Bob Gaines on September 10, 2018, 07:59:11 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on September 10, 2018, 07:50:00 PM
Quote from: jgroce1985 on September 10, 2018, 01:18:25 PM
Thanks Everyone, I guess the builders questions are which brackets are black which are aluminum color, things of that nature. I have been trying to look at pictures of restored engines to give him this info to the best of my ability
FYI i had copied this link that is part 2 of 428 engine
http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-to/engine/1803-428-cobra-jet-engine-detailing-part-2/
you should be able to find part 1 and 3
also keep doing what you are doing, it is your shelby...haters will be haters...lmao
Great article for a 68 69 70 428 "CobraJet" but not so much for a 67 GT500. I am sure it was meant to be helpful but most likely It will be confusing determining the things that are the same and the things that are different on a 67 GT500 for someone who doesn't know.
mr gaines great catch you are correct ! our minds are on our 1969s....once again thank you
Guys thanks for all the replies....
Quote from: Chris Thauberger on September 10, 2018, 02:34:52 PM
Quote from: jgroce1985 on September 10, 2018, 06:59:02 AM
I'm not sure that's something I would brag about, or be proud of.
Anyways, thanks to the ones that suggested, as well as sent me PM's with contact info I really appreciate it.
I wasn't bragging, just saying. Also I'm not sure corbins was being derogatory.
Way to come out of the gate swinging, just saying. Sugar/vinegar/flies.
I certainly was not... previous suggestion was to send all this stuff to Jim and others for restoration.... OP was trying to make it look correct ,
not concours
. That was my point. Oh well
This site used to have a bunch of pictures, but that page seems to have been deleted. Or at least, I can't find it now.
http://www.mustangtek.com/index.html
Quote from: jgroce1985 on September 10, 2018, 08:10:06 PM
Guys thanks for all the replies....
GROCE Don't go anywhere we are trying to keep the last of the Mohicans together. You are welcome to ask any questions you like here we used to say all are welcome but that has changed with a few self serving elitists. You will learn who they are in short order,problem is many with the derogatory comments, or lack of technical talents, are not willing to add to the conversation, because they don't know the answers. They just have people do things for them. These people just complain about most everything and usually to the new guy showing a purported superiority. Truth be known most of these don't race,restore,modify or have hands on knowledge of the technical aspects of these cars. The ones with tremendous knowledge are usually willing to help to the n- th degree. We have run off most casual car nuts on here hopefully you will stick around long enough to see some positivity! :)
Kumbaya ;D
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My name is Jeremy.....Has anyone had any experience with Baldwin Performance Carburetor in Thomasville NC? He has gave me a good quote of rebuilding and re-plating both carbs. I like the idea of him being down the road. Plus he has before and after pictures on his open Facebook page...Great looking work.
Quote from: jgroce1985 on September 10, 2018, 10:51:29 PM
My name is Jeremy.....Has anyone had any experience with Baldwin Performance Carburetor in Thomasville NC? He has gave me a good quote of rebuilding and re-plating both carbs. I like the idea of him being down the road. Plus he has before and after pictures on his open Facebook page...Great looking work.
I asked my restorer Hunter Williard, here is his response:
"I've never heard of Baldwin. I use CCR Classic Carb Rebuilders out of Eden. Guys name is Tim Lancaster. He runs the carbs on a test motor and sends a video to the customer. (336) 394-3184"
Hunter just sent my 663 dated carb to this guy. I should be getting it back soon. If you like, I can post some pics and the video for you?
Joe Bonetic (Spelling) Redid a set of factory high riser carbs, and my 67 carbs they are gorgeous and run well, another option.
Yes please do.
Joe Bunetic- Look him up he does nice work 618 402 5062