Hi everyone. Pretty sure this is my first post here on the forum and I saved it for a good one.
About a month ago a pickup truck crashed into my garage and fled the scene. Lucky for him a Shelby Mustang was sitting right inside the wall to cushion his blow, allowing him to flee the scene. ::)
All in all the damage could have been a lot worse. The impact broke off a 6x6 inside the wall which made contact with the car and shoved it over about five feet from where it was sitting. If it wasn't able to move it would have had a Toyota Tundra sitting in the passenger seat.
Still looking for the right shop to handle the repairs. It has Hagerty coverage so we'll see if they're as good as everyone says they are. If you have any suggestions in NE Ohio (or anywhere else for that matter) I'm all ears.
There's a picture of this car on Pete's website, with my dad in his graduation gown the day after he got it in 1971. 20241008_012449.jpg20241008_020454.jpg
Ouch...
Sorry to hear about . Keep us posted as I am sure others myself included have Hagerty and want to know how well they respond to the situation.
The good news is it looks to be confined to the fender. The hardest part will be getting a paint match. Hopefully its not into the rocker panel
Well and taking apart the nose
😉
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Quote from: Coralsnake on November 18, 2024, 08:10:18 AMThe good news is it looks to be confined to the fender. The hardest part will be getting a paint match. Hopefully its not into the rocker panel
Well and taking apart the nose
😉
It hit directly at the torque box fortunately. Rocker appears to be SLIGHTLY bent. There's some minor damage to the other fender where it smacked into my snow plow so paint match is going to be REAL fun.
I was looking at that same fender yesterday. Is that a fair price? (I've never had to price one) haha
'If' a true "N.O.S." O.E.M. product?! :-\
In your situation, I wouldn't be wasting any time asking.............I'd have already bought it! 8)
Scott.
If the bent fender on the car was original to the car would it not be worth trying to straighten it? If not an original fender, then I would certainly replace.
Corey
Lets just say its not an unfair price.
I think straightening that is time and cost prohibitive. I have seen some good pdr videos but I think those guys are few and far between.
I think that fender is your best option.
The fender could likely be fixed, but would be challenging/time consuming. There's a reinforcing brace on the back of the fender, it would likely need to be at least partially removed.
Depending how original the car is, a good used original fender may be another option, considering if sheet metal date stamps are important.
Its an option if you can find a rust free one. Then you can weld up all the emblem holes
Ugh. sorry to see this... hope that you can get everything squared away without too much extra angst.
... and hopefully the idiot offender/driver will get caught
Sorry to see this. Canvass the neighbors to see if any ring cameras might have caught a visual on the offender.
Very sad to see this happen to a sunlit Gold car.... :( There is an NOS right side rocker molding on Ebay....
Pat
Here's a rust free original in Forrest hill md.
Quote from: Bob Gaines on November 17, 2024, 07:17:23 PMSorry to hear about . Keep us posted as I am sure others myself included have Hagerty and want to know how well they respond to the situation.
I've had 3 claims with Hagerty on my 70 GT350(all weird occurrences). They paid off in spades on all 3. I did replace them with American Modern 15 months ago.
Was the car recently restored? Who painted the car originally? They might have the formula used to mix the paint. Since car has been garaged/covered not a lot of fading. Matching should not be that complicated for a competent painter given the new spectrophotometers used to match paint.
As for the fender, based on the one picture it is absolutely repairable IMHO. I fixed worse than that when I was a body man. Trick will be to find someone who can massage the metal out. Most auto body repair theses days is R&R (remove/replace) with new cars. That is what they teach the new generation of "auto body technicians".
Chris
Quote from: Chris Thauberger on November 19, 2024, 07:28:31 AMWas the car recently restored? Who painted the car originally? They might have the formula used to mix the paint. Since car has been garaged/covered not a lot of fading. Matching should not be that complicated for a competent painter given the new spectrophotometers used to match paint.
As for the fender, based on the one picture it is absolutely repairable IMHO. I fixed worse than that when I was a body man. Trick will be to find someone who can massage the metal out. Most auto body repair theses days is R&R (remove/replace) with new cars. That is what they teach the new generation of "auto body technicians".
Chris
The car was painted over 20 years ago using an industrial/commercial paint system (DuPont Imron something not commonly used in the auto repair/refinish industry and then a Spies/Heckler system sprayed on top of that) according to the owner. If you think this color would be a easy match using a paint spectrometer your in for a hell of a surprise, it may get you half assed close to start with but anything more than that you would be damn lucky. I have seen this car in person, but not since this accident and the owner did contact me about this shortly there after.
Quote from: KR500 on November 19, 2024, 09:53:06 AMQuote from: Chris Thauberger on November 19, 2024, 07:28:31 AMWas the car recently restored? Who painted the car originally? They might have the formula used to mix the paint. Since car has been garaged/covered not a lot of fading. Matching should not be that complicated for a competent painter given the new spectrophotometers used to match paint.
As for the fender, based on the one picture it is absolutely repairable IMHO. I fixed worse than that when I was a body man. Trick will be to find someone who can massage the metal out. Most auto body repair theses days is R&R (remove/replace) with new cars. That is what they teach the new generation of "auto body technicians".
Chris
The car was painted over 20 years ago using an industrial/commercial paint system (DuPont Imron something not commonly used in the auto repair/refinish industry and then a Spies/Heckler system sprayed on top of that) according to the owner. If you think this color would be a easy match using a paint spectrometer your in for a hell of a surprise, it may get you half assed close to start with but anything more than that you would be damn lucky. I have seen this car in person, but not since this accident and the owner did contact me about this shortly there after.
Imron from 20 years ago, that would be a tough one. I was thinking it might have been a more recent.
we are using every day a spectro on customer cars , and it's not a magic tool , few times the color is off, and the thing is new painters are relying on it and they are not learning much how to match a paint "by hand "...
Regarding matching Sunlit Gold, its the reason there are yellow 68s ;D
Quote from: TLea on November 19, 2024, 04:26:10 PMRegarding matching Sunlit Gold, its the reason there are yellow 68s ;D
100%. Gold has always been a bear to match.
Interesting discussion on car insurance. I had Grundy insurance for many years......1974 to 2018. They always went above and beyond on the few claims I submitted. When hit by a drunk uninsured driver while in our Packard they paid the full amount and full medical in less than two weeks. When i hit a bird with my 280Sl and needed to replace the center grill they said to get a nos not aftermarket. But the best was when the rear window on my GT350 cracked they helped find a correct nos instead of just a replacement.
Just a quick update. I sent pictures of the car to Hagerty and received a call from their in-house estimator. We spoke quite a while about what it will take to repair the car correctly and he is working up an estimate based on the information he has. He did say that the estimate he sends is going to be low and we will adjust it as we start getting more accurate numbers from whoever is going to do the work. He mentioned that this isn't just a '68 Mustang, it's a Shelby and they were going to do whatever they need to do to fix it correctly.
I'm striking out on finding someone to do the work. I understand that a job like this would be tough to make any money on, especially with the labor that would be involved in the stripping all of the old paint.
As an added bonus here's the video of the crash:
Too bad you didn't have land mines 20 feet out around the perimeter with the adequate warnings of course.
Quote from: deathsled on November 26, 2024, 10:17:04 PMToo bad you didn't have land mines 20 feet out around the perimeter with the adequate warnings of course.
Defenses are in the works. They won't drive away next time.
My contractor talked me out of the moat though.
That is a crazy video. Lots of tire screeching before impact. Is this a house? Is it right off the road? Just hard to figure out what went on here. What ever happened it is horrible.
Corey
Quote from: Corey Bowcutt on November 27, 2024, 06:59:27 AMThat is a crazy video. Lots of tire screeching before impact. Is this a house? Is it right off the road? Just hard to figure out what went on here. What ever happened it is horrible.
Corey
It's a 24' x 40' detached garage next to the house which is pretty close to the road. It's a two lane county road in a very rural area. From the doorbell camera on the house you can hear him get on it down the road and he was moving at a pretty good speed when he drifted off the right side of the road, over-corrected, and spun. When he left the left side of the road he got into the grass next to the garage which straightened him out and he hit the wall head on.
One too many Busch Lights I'd say.
Large rocks!
Quote from: thewee on November 26, 2024, 09:10:13 PMAs an added bonus here's the video of the crash:
Nice video. Love those panoramic cameras.
Quote from: Chris Thauberger on November 27, 2024, 09:32:35 AMQuote from: thewee on November 26, 2024, 09:10:13 PMAs an added bonus here's the video of the crash:
Nice video. Love those panoramic cameras.
I'm in the process of upgrading all of the cameras and adding a few more. I've put a lot into security around here and feel like my system failed because I couldn't get a good enough description of the vehicle to catch this guy. The alarm system did its job because without it I never would have known this happened, but better cameras in the right places would have probably caught the guy.
Quote from: thewee on November 27, 2024, 10:25:42 AMI couldn't get a good enough description of the vehicle to catch this guy.
I can't comment on the quality of law enforcement in anyone else's districts, but I can tell you that here where I'm at, it doesn't matter how much evidence you supplied, name, address, phone number, even a birth certificate identifying the culprit, other than making an appearance and writing up a report, and that's only after you create enough fuss to warrant what they would label as "special attention", as otherwise on your initial phone call to the Police expressing the need for an officer at your location, they'll instead direct you to file your own report "on-line", and nothing else will happen, absolutely no addition effort by our local law enforcement establishment will take place! >:(
Scott.
Quote from: pbf777 on November 27, 2024, 12:11:10 PMQuote from: thewee on November 27, 2024, 10:25:42 AMI couldn't get a good enough description of the vehicle to catch this guy.
I can't comment on the quality of law enforcement in anyone else's districts, but I can tell you that here where I'm at, it doesn't matter how much evidence you supplied, name, address, phone number, even a birth certificate identifying the culprit, other than making an appearance and writing up a report, and that's only after you create enough fuss to warrant what they would label as "special attention", as otherwise on your initial phone call to the Police expressing the need for an officer at your location, they'll instead direct you to file your own report "on-line", and nothing else will happen, absolutely no addition effort by our local law enforcement establishment will take place! >:(
Scott.
I was surprised at the police response that night. There was four county cruisers and a state patrol cruiser there in a pretty short amount of time. As soon as they saw the car they were motivated to find the guy and went out searching immediately. With the amount of damage around the car and the sheets of plywood on top of it we thought it was a lot worse. The state trooper who took the report actually helped me dig the car out and was there about 3 1/2 hours.
He admitted though that it was unlikely we'd find who did it. If the guy was smart (which I highly doubt) he would have sold the truck by now.
Just to update everyone, I spoke with the estimator at Hagerty again today after I received the check for the initial estimate. Once I get an estimate from the shop doing the work they will supplement any price differences which they expect and he said will probably be pretty substantial. So far they have been extremely easy to work with and the estimator seems to know his stuff and is insistent the car gets fixed properly. He's said multiple times that this is a Shelby and it's going to take more to fix it...and we're NOT putting reproduction parts on a Shelby.
Still haven't found a shop to do the work yet. That's been the hardest part so far. ::)
I'm following this thread closely. I too am insured with Hagerty on two of my cars. I am very interested to see how this all turns out.
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