Good evening all, I have poured over a ton of threads on Cobra intakes and still find myself unsure of what I have in my 1965 Kcode, cloned GT350 in 1970. The intake on my motor is a small letter cobra at the front, there is a firing order on that front runner, nothing on the rear runner (closest to the firewall) but on the flat spot behind that rear runner is S1MS 9424-A Can anyone help ID this intake? Thank you in advance, Scott I have a pic of the S1MS and will try to load.
Quote from: SCOTTGTK on October 19, 2024, 03:35:35 PM.............. I have a pic of the S1MS and will try to load.
That should help some and help confirm. Does the carb flange happen to have four individual holes or
one big single two oblong holes?
the 4 hole version... having issues getting picture here...
Here's a tutorial on how to post pictures. Hopefully it will help you.
First click on user actions, then click on reply and then write what you want then click or drag the pictures you want.
Roy
Thanks Roy... so pic is on my phone... I need to save the pic to a file and then try to find to attach here?
You can send it to me and ill post it for you
Coralsnake68@hotmail.com
Quote from: SCOTTGTK on October 19, 2024, 06:46:59 PMThanks Roy... so pic is on my phone... I need to save the pic to a file and then try to find to attach here?
I have an Samsung android phone so here are the last steps to post a picture. After you click to get the files, you will get a page with some icons on the bottom that you have to slid over to get to media picker which you will tap on and that will take you to a page with 3 lines at the top left that you will click on and then you'll scroll down to gallery and click on that and then tap on the pictures you want to upload. Sounds a little complicated at first but once you do it a time or two it's easy easy.
If you want to call and talk I can walk you through it which I've done with a few people.
Roy 510-917-FORD
Thanks Coralsnake68! Just emailed to you.
Thanks TA Coupe... I have Apple.
I believe apple works similarly because I helped someone I met while at a restaurant and if I remember it wasn't to hard for me to figure out.
Roy
Scotts photo
(https://www.saac.com/forum/gallery/8-201024060512.jpeg)
Thanks Coralsnake.
This pic shows what I was trying to describe... there's no casting on the back runner and the S1MS you see here is behind that rear runner... between the firewall and the rear runner? TIA, Scott
Does it look like these... but with 4 round holes, not two long openings, at the carb mounting surface?
Correct.
JD ?
Was trying to help show what you have, since posting was not easy. There are many variations of small block intakes which makes it difficult to know just what someone has in terms of "correctness" and/or value.
There are others on this forum that know a lot more about these variations than I do.
I was trying to gather images of these variations and got as far as this, see attached, and was told there were many more out there and I stopped.
Starting to look like the ten spoke wheel chart 😉
Yes there are others not pictured. SCOTTGTK needs to send a over head picture of his like what JD posted to Coralsnake to post. Preferably a picture without the carburetor or gasket underneath on it.
Please send me pictures
Dont give up JD keep looking for them you are the best resource
Thank you all... I'll do my best to get some over head shots as soon as I can. I cannot get with carb off as I'm running it.
Thanks for posting Coralsnake.... I'll continue to try and upload from my end as well.
No problem
I should be able to get a pic or more to you today Coralsnake and I'm gonna attempt to post again from my end.
Standing by
Just emailed to you CS... I'll now try to load from my end as well...
All following/contributing to this thread, thank you and be aware, these pics are not the best... best I could get at the moment.. if you "expand" on them you'll be able to see what I see... I understand looking underneath would be helpful as well, but I wont be pulling the motor for a few more months for sure... Thanks again for your thoughts!
HHere are 4 of 5 pics... I think... it stopped me at 4...I'll try the 5th on another post..
And the 5th....
I need to make them smaller, I will load them shortly
I just tried to open one of the pics and on my end it just sends it to downloads... Don't know of that will happen to all
Trying again..
Quote from: SCOTTGTK on October 30, 2024, 02:40:14 PMI just tried to open one of the pics and on my end it just sends it to downloads... Don't know of that will happen to all
That happened to me too. I can't open them . Hopefully Pete will have better luck posting.
Sorry... I need to figure it out for future use! I have a new subject shortly for the group that would include a couple pics...
I'll try to post from my phone? Maybe it makes a difference.. I've been trying from the laptop.. tech is not my sand box.. I do see I have "user actions" here... I didn't on the laptop
Did that work? I did get a message... I'm no longer allowed to post anymore pics unless in a new post.
And the 5th... seems to work from the phone???
Quote from: SCOTTGTK on October 30, 2024, 03:04:45 PMDid that work? I did get a message... I'm no longer allowed to post anymore pics unless in a new post.
That made all of the differance in the world . A picture is worth a thousand words. It is one of the first reproduction intake attempts made several decades ago. I would be surprised if it had 4 holes when the carb is taken off. It is based on one of the last versions of production Cobra intakes. That is a typical common denominator for the repro companies to use the last available version before it went obsolete. The large firing order letters and numbers ,unused thread holes by the runners which are for mounting the coil to the intake on engines with thermactor (1967 and up smog)are the obvious tells. The S1MS engineering number on a S2MS large letter Cobra intake given the other described tells ends the speculation. I suspected as much because that S1MS and its mold mark I have only seen on old repro intakes but didn't want to make a determination by that alone.
Awesome! Thanks Bob! Couple follow up.... is the mold mark the 9424-A? Is that COBRA considered LARGE cobra letters? I thought they were the small letters?
Scott... you were not attaching universal images... you were posting some Apple formats (HEIC)
HEIC stands for High Efficiency Image Container, a file format for storing digital images and image sequences. It's the default image format for Apple devices.
Needs to be converted to JPG or some universal format
Ron
Thanks Ron... seems to work better from my phone. I didn't have the "user actions" tab on the laptop but I do on the phone.
Quote from: SCOTTGTK on October 30, 2024, 03:32:22 PMAwesome! Thanks Bob! Couple follow up.... is the mold mark the 9424-A? Is that COBRA considered LARGE cobra letters? I thought they were the small letters?
The mold mark I was referring to is the oblong raised pad the S1MS is on.That is not on the genuine intakes. The Cobra letters on yours are the same size as other genuine S2MS intakes which are LARGER than the genuine small letter S1MS intake.
Winning
Understood, Thanks Bob ....Thanks again Coralsnake!
It's a very nice manifold, just not original to a '65 GT350.
How did you finally figure out how to post? Might help others.
Roy
Agreed shelbydoug... I'm happy to know what it is and know that it's a much older (maybe period correct) intake.
TA coupe, I literally just decided to try it from my phone (Iphone) and when I got into it noticed I had the "user actions" tab you mentioned earlier... clicked on that and then went thru the next step or 2 to load the pic and it worked?
Quote from: SCOTTGTK on October 31, 2024, 04:44:29 AMAgreed shelbydoug... I'm happy to know what it is and know that it's a much older (maybe period correct) intake.
It's technically not period correct...just my two cents of thought
Quote from: SFM6S on October 31, 2024, 07:10:09 AMQuote from: SCOTTGTK on October 31, 2024, 04:44:29 AMAgreed shelbydoug... I'm happy to know what it is and know that it's a much older (maybe period correct) intake.
It's technically not period correct...just my two cents of thought
+1 .The repro intake on your car is copied after a 1967 and later intake. It has extra provisions for smog which weren't seen until 1967 up. It would not be the best aftermarket alternative on a 1965 engine. There is no 1965 Cobra intake that has been reproduced . The closest that you could come in that department is the excellent Scott Drake S2MS marked Cobra intake which is almost Identical to some Cobra intakes that were produced in 1966 production. https://www.jegs.com/i/Scott-Drake/204/S2MS-9424-C/10002/-1
Here is a picture of the Scott Drake reproduction Cobra intake which is more correct looking then the blue thunder reproduction Cobra intake which has been around for 15 or 20 years in current form.
Thanks Bob, SFM6S! I like the Drake version... maybe someone out there has an original for sale? Knowing what mine is now Bob, do you have a ball park estimate how old it is?
Quote from: SCOTTGTK on October 31, 2024, 02:14:10 PMThanks Bob, SFM6S! I like the Drake version... maybe someone out there has an original for sale? Knowing what mine is now Bob, do you have a ball park estimate how old it is?
Quote from: SCOTTGTK on October 31, 2024, 02:14:10 PMThanks Bob, SFM6S! I like the Drake version... maybe someone out there has an original for sale? Knowing what mine is now Bob, do you have a ball park estimate how old it is?
The Drake repro is marked just like the genuine it copies which is S2MS 9424 A . That early style of repro intake you presently have on the engine is probably 30 years old IMO.
Quote from: SCOTTGTK on October 31, 2024, 02:14:10 PMThanks Bob, SFM6S! I like the Drake version... maybe someone out there has an original for sale? Knowing what mine is now Bob, do you have a ball park estimate how old it is?
FYI a genuine nice condition S1MS 1965 small letter intake sell in the 1800-2800.00 range if you can find one. If you are considering a genuine S2MS intake over the repro S2MS in this case would be a lateral move IMO not worth doing because it is so close in appearance.
True... my goal here is to get as much as I can, period correct or original. Next on the list is swapping the rear disc brakes for larger drum. I'll have some pics shortly of the rear end/axel as were having difficulty identifing what it came out of.. it's a 9inch, just can determine what from and so far no identifying tags/marks etc.