Hi all,
On the 66 GT350's 306 HP engines, my understanding is that the coil sticker for engine code is a remnant of the original K-code build and either 245S for 271 HP and standard transmission or 246A for 271 HP and automatic transmission. These were not remove as part of SAI modifications. I have learned from Jeff Speegle there was likely a temporary tag attached to SAI build engines, then later removed at San Jose. I cannot find any OEM information on this third code 245K. What gives?
The attached image is from 6S958, from Hemmings add.
Thank
Cory
The sticker is attached incorrectly . It should be attached longways not sideways as in picture. It also lays across of the bracket band.
Hi Bob, good to know on the placement and orientation. No comment on the 245K designation?
Cory
I thought you would expect to find either of the 2 decals 246S or 245S as Bob described
I haven't seen the 245K type on the 65-66. Isn't it from the 67 HP Manual?
Cheers
Hi GT350lad,
I'm not sure that the 245K is an original engine code. The retailers are showing it for what you described, see attached. Can you show us an OEM engine code chart with the 245K designation for 1967 HiPo manual transmission? I can't find.
Cory
245S is 66 hipo manual and 246A is auto. If you research some of the vintage magazine and vintage owner polaroid's you can see them sometimes.
Quote from: 6s1640 on September 22, 2024, 01:11:37 AMHi GT350lad,
I'm not sure that the 245K is an original engine code. The retailers are showing it for what you described, see attached. Can you show us an OEM engine code chart with the 245K designation for 1967 HiPo manual transmission? I can't find.
Cory
That sticker is most likely a Osbourne made item. They don't do the needed research many times when they make them up . ECS makes up more authentic stickers
Hi Bob,
Thank you, I agree with you. I thought the 245K engine code sticker was not a real OEM code. Because the 245S and 246A cover the two variable combinations, there is no need for the 245K.
I have attached the image from the MPC showing the two codes, minus alpha characters. It is interesting that the MPC does not explain this fourth character, but does show the alpha character in the example diagram.
Take care
Cory
Quote from: Bob Gaines on September 22, 2024, 01:32:42 AMQuote from: 6s1640 on September 22, 2024, 01:11:37 AMHi GT350lad,
I'm not sure that the 245K is an original engine code. The retailers are showing it for what you described, see attached. Can you show us an OEM engine code chart with the 245K designation for 1967 HiPo manual transmission? I can't find.
Cory
That sticker is most likely a Osbourne made item. They don't do the needed research many times when they make them up . ECS makes up more authentic stickers
Thanks Bob, I had seen it only on a website never on a car.
Quote from: GT350Lad on September 22, 2024, 02:31:06 AMQuote from: Bob Gaines on September 22, 2024, 01:32:42 AMQuote from: 6s1640 on September 22, 2024, 01:11:37 AMHi GT350lad,
I'm not sure that the 245K is an original engine code. The retailers are showing it for what you described, see attached. Can you show us an OEM engine code chart with the 245K designation for 1967 HiPo manual transmission? I can't find.
Cory
That sticker is most likely a Osbourne made item. They don't do the needed research many times when they make them up . ECS makes up more authentic stickers
Thanks Bob, I had seen it only on a website never on a car.
Hi GT350Lad,
The problem is that this fake part is showing up on a beautifully restored car, lots of enthusiasts see and the fake part then becomes real. I even thought for a while the 245K was correct, until a fellow hobbyist straighten me out. The first image I showed is from 6S958. I like the car, but someone didn't do their home work and installed an incorrect engine code sticker.
Thanks Bob for setting the record straight.
Take care
Cory
Agree Cory, it gets seen on a nicely resorted car and then gets validated.
Thankfully the collective SAAC team is around
Cheers all
Trent
The 6S958 car from the Hemmings ad is a beautiful car with many good workmanship attributes however it should not be used as a concours correct standard for assemblyline details without additional corroboration . There are many small mistakes that have been made in the engine compartment for example that can be seen in the Ad pictures. No doubt many more are there that can't be seen. I would suggest that a enthusiast confirm with more examples and sources any detail takeaways that they think that they have found from that car. The information in this thread is a excellent example of what I am talking about.
All too familiar pattern. Someone is building a car so that copy someone else's car that is either exalted in an advertisement or won some award(s). Someone assumes that details are correct without regards to what show, rules, judges gave the award or if in an add, just the claims of the seller. Of course they have just as much chance to copy correctly done details as they do the mistakes made and presented. Then they get copied over and over again. Please, everyone, do your own confirmations and don't rely on the Easy button.