I need to know if the extension fitting/sleeve for the oil fiter adapter is a generic Ford part and the number.
I misplaced mine and can't find a basic part number on it to research it? If there is anyone here who knows, I would appreciate it.
I'm thinking that it isn't a unique part, that it is from another Ford industrial application but I don't know that for sure?
Anyone know?
I think you are going to find your options are very limited and/or expensive
You would probably decide to spend your time looking for the one you have.
According to your illustration it is basic 6882/adapter.
That is Shelby unique?
I am not sure if its Shelby unique, but I dont think I have ever seen one that was without the adapter
S7MS-6882-A
Adding a picture to this topic:
Yes, that's it. The doughnut is the "difficult" thing to replicate. The adapter already exists over at Canton for their doughnut which is very similar.
Thanks for posting. My adapter is here somewhere in this mess? Mom was right. "How can you find anything in this room?" ::)
Did I miss something, did 1967 Shelby GT 500's come with external oil cooler factory or is this a "Day 2" type of add on?
You missed it.
Quote from: Terry Curry on June 17, 2024, 01:12:33 PMDid I miss something, did 1967 Shelby GT 500's come with external oil cooler factory or is this a "Day 2" type of add on?
Only GT500's with air came factory with oil cooler.
Buy the one from Canton. Your old one will appear within 1/2 hour of finishing the installation.
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on June 17, 2024, 01:47:13 PMBuy the one from Canton. Your old one will appear within 1/2 hour of finishing the installation.
Oh -yes!
Yes I see Jegs has a similar one as well (probably the same)
You could probably modify it.
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on June 17, 2024, 01:47:13 PMBuy the one from Canton. Your old one will appear within 1/2 hour of finishing the installation.
It only works in certain instances. My cat was missing for a few days. We thought it was curtains so we got another. Then she came home with eight kittens. So somehow one cat turned into ten?
There is now way too much meowing going on around here. My German Shepard now puts her head under the pillows for quiet.
We have nine cats, two fosters and go out and feed about thirty ferals or more between our town and the next one over. All of our cats have been on TV also.
Roy
Three of them would hang out with me while I was working under the car.
Ran across this on Ebay....
https://www.ebay.com/itm/293148948125?itmmeta=01J0TP7MKGC9MVZEA0Q75FCJ4A&hash=item444109f69d:g:zzoAAOSwPuhdHQfa&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4Ar1n%2FFlKEHi%2FcMx77tcU2j2KlTJQXbBzB9JjlbL4pXmXzsKCTk66vn8L3awYgg79u1Qsh69gSatOmrcyubOdRwMVjvlc5mb5uTeZjW5q7TCfn9gzuNv5%2BZBjxUUhGihqz3NpAMXqDYLkCoRapsdT9ISVsDU9oh59r1bEFBdmdYqkiRNjyh5bXA6dpJMSk359pOlC6JoH2aEJQPWv3DZ6FOyjo73DoWcjQquFH6CeGD0CdUt4GLAR5eQ6A6MR%2Fb395oPhpof0I4440GdEBHt1ThTvmWqC8OXU6LIn%2FvaBSDH%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-bJntaGZA
Pat
I found mine. It's always in the last place that you look...but why would you keep looking after...?
A couple of comments on the ebay part. First off, that is Perogie. They sell under three or four names that I know of.
The two blue adapter fittings are not original equipment. Those are AN fittings Originals came two ways, silver cad steel or brass. I'm pretty sure the originals are 45 degree SAE flares and I know that the AN are 37 degree. So you have to match the hose ends to those fittings.
I'm not sure where that gasket is from? On mine, the gasket is one from a Fram oil filer. You just pull one off a filter, and that is it. It is only 3/16" wide and fits into a machined groove in the doughnut.
The one in the Ebay picture seems much wider?
Those adapters are quite rare so I can't speak to the possibility that there are different versions, but with Ford, who would know for sure?
very intersting
The doughnut and the adapter are the tough parts to find. If you want them, you really can't argue much about the price.
I do recall that Craig Connelly at Paradise Wheels did a project thirty or forty years ago offering an entire kit.
I remember lending him my doughnut to copy back then.
I couldn't tell if these parts are original or repro's. The big gasket makes me suspicious though?
I do find it very unusual that a "take off" would come with "original Ford packaging" though. That IS very unique for me? Somewhat of a very strange coincidence?
The wide gasket is correct. That is what I have always seen as original. Other gaskets can be made to work even form a gasket can work in its place. The wide gasket side is the side that goes up against the oil filter adapter. The other side that doesn't have a gasket is the side that the oil filter screws up against . The oil filter of course has a thin round gasket that comes with it. That oil filter gasket seals to the donut. I installed one yesterday.
Quote from: Bob Gaines on July 22, 2024, 12:24:08 PMThe wide gasket is correct. That is what I have always seen as original. Other gaskets can be made to work even form a gasket can work in its place. The wide gasket side is the side that goes up against the oil filter adapter. The other side that doesn't have a gasket is the side that the oil filter screws up against . The oil filter of course has a thin round gasket that comes with it. That oil filter gasket seals to the donut. I installed one yesterday.
Hum? Interesting. I haven't seen enough of the doughnuts to argue other then to say my gasket is not wide like that. It literally is the rubber gasket from an oil filter.
I know mine is not a reproduction so I must assume that there is more then one version? I just reinstalled it about 10 days ago.
On my Boss 302 adapter, there is a stamped metal gasket between the block and the adapter that I leave off because it tends to leak. The adapter with no gasket does not leak.
It is not crushable like the brake line crushable metal washers.
The Econoline adapter", which I just sold, uses a different gasket. It is sort of a sunburst design and it is compressible cork and that one seemed impossible to get tight enough and would always drip for me.
I think that I see a definite pattern here? Those gaskets and I don't get along. Some kind of a bad blood thing? So best take someone else's advice on them. I obviously have had a witches hex put on me with them.
It's not the first time?:D
The wide gasket is what came on the cars originally I believe but as you found out the oil filter gasket makes a perfect alternative substitute. I have used those before too. Heck I have even used form a gasket silicone before instead of a rubber gasket and it worked well. At the end of the day it doesn't matter what you use as long as it doesn't leak.
Besides it is not like it can be seen from the outside once installed whether you use the factory style gasket or a alternative . ;)
Quote from: Bob Gaines on July 22, 2024, 02:57:36 PMBesides it is not like it can be seen from the outside once installed whether you use the factory style gasket or a alternative . ;)
I agree. I'm just stating that mine in machined for the oil filter gasket and I think that it is mentioned as the source if you look at the Ford "Off Highway Parts" book?
I'd rather source the oil filter gasket then have to pay someone $1,000, for an original in a Ford Service package?
The dam things are a big enough pain to begin with to get right.
I'm thinking though that at some point someone internally discovered that using the oil filter gasket was a pretty good substitute and made a simple switch in machining specs on the doughnut and didn't bother to explain to any of us pions? We after all were always considered sub-human and who cares what we think?
Somewhat of a familiar story at Ford for sure.
Quote from: shelbydoug on July 22, 2024, 03:26:32 PMQuote from: Bob Gaines on July 22, 2024, 02:57:36 PMBesides it is not like it can be seen from the outside once installed whether you use the factory style gasket or a alternative . ;)
I agree. I'm just stating that mine in machined for the oil filter gasket and I think that it is mentioned as the source if you look at the Ford "Off Highway Parts" book?
I'd rather source the oil filter gasket then have to pay someone $1,000, for an original in a Ford Service package?
The dam things are a big enough pain to begin with to get right.
I'm thinking though that at some point someone internally discovered that using the oil filter gasket was a pretty good substitute and made a simple switch in machining specs on the doughnut and didn't bother to explain to any of us pions? We after all were always considered sub-human and who cares what we think?
Somewhat of a familiar story at Ford for sure.
I may be mistaken but I only remember the ones machined on one side with a groove like that . The wide gasket is made with a positive round channel into its form on one side so that it fits into that machined channel. That makes it hard to mount it off center.
I am ALMOST considering removing it so we compare what we both have? Almost. I must have been drinking some of that happy juice again?
Quote from: shelbydoug on July 22, 2024, 04:31:07 PMI am ALMOST considering removing it so we compare what we both have? Almost. I must have been drinking some of that happy juice again?
That's a good thing because I am definitely not removing mine again just to satisfy your curiosity :D . I removed it to get to a fuel pump for replacement. I just want to forget that experience. ;) What a PITA. ::)
Quote from: Bob Gaines on July 22, 2024, 06:22:11 PMQuote from: shelbydoug on July 22, 2024, 04:31:07 PMI am ALMOST considering removing it so we compare what we both have? Almost. I must have been drinking some of that happy juice again?
That's a good thing because I am definitely not removing mine again just to satisfy your curiosity :D . I removed it to get to a fuel pump for replacement. I just want to forget that experience. ;) What a PITA. ::)
PITA is a very fair description but you would not be satisfying my curiosity. It is the millions of followers that hang on every word that we post. 8)
The doughnut gasket in this picture is the same as the one on my doughnut. It is the square edge o-ring from the oil filter.
The one in the ebay auction appears much wider.
More pics of NOS adapter with wide gasket for reference on topic.
AH! I understand now! It is only the gasket that is different! Thanks. ;)
Do you have a part number on that gasket?
The only numbers are tiny on the flat side of the gasket, molded in: "I.P.C. . 19".
In the Shelby Cobra GT350/500 Parts Book, on page G1, showing the oil cooler illustration--it says:
"Gasket 129559 (available only from Fram)".
I thought that was what I have, which is the square edge o-ring from an oil filter? That Fram number has never been accompanied by a picture.
This is the first time I have seen the fat gasket but now I want one. Dam.
A Google search turned up nothing useful.
I appreciate everyone's effort in posting here. Thank you. Eventually a source of the fat gasket will turn up. We need to give it time. It's only been 60 years.