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Deals and Appeals => Cars For Sale => Topic started by: Coralsnake on April 17, 2024, 11:16:47 AM

Title: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Coralsnake on April 17, 2024, 11:16:47 AM
Not mine

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/listing/1969-shelby-gt500-mitchell-sd-2782814
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: FL SAAC on April 17, 2024, 12:38:01 PM
What a beauty and only $375k
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Coralsnake on April 17, 2024, 12:53:34 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC on April 17, 2024, 12:38:01 PMWhat a beauty and only $375k

"I am certainly not a Shelby Expert"



A 4spd, SCJ drag pak, convertible car will command that kind of money all day long. Unfortunately, this specific car has had some "modifications"

Its unusual to see one being sold.
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: SCJSTU on April 17, 2024, 02:10:58 PM
someone tell Ed  8)
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Bob Gaines on April 17, 2024, 02:12:43 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on April 17, 2024, 11:16:47 AMNot mine

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/listing/1969-shelby-gt500-mitchell-sd-2782814
For those of us that have been around a while seeing the sellers name  http://www.telstarmotors.com lets one know what to expect as far as correctness and quality. At least those that have inspected and or judged his restorations. ::) 
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Coralsnake on April 17, 2024, 02:21:25 PM
Like installing the smog canister backwards? 😉
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Sfm6sxxx on April 17, 2024, 03:07:08 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on April 17, 2024, 02:12:43 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on April 17, 2024, 11:16:47 AMNot mine

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/listing/1969-shelby-gt500-mitchell-sd-2782814
For those of us that have been around a while seeing the sellers name  http://www.telstarmotors.com lets one know what to expect as far as correctness and quality. At least those that have inspected and or judged his restorations. ::)

I havent seen that name in ages.  They used to advertise in Hemmings way back.
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Bob Gaines on April 17, 2024, 03:16:12 PM
Quote from: Sfm6sxxx on April 17, 2024, 03:07:08 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on April 17, 2024, 02:12:43 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on April 17, 2024, 11:16:47 AMNot mine

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/listing/1969-shelby-gt500-mitchell-sd-2782814
For those of us that have been around a while seeing the sellers name  http://www.telstarmotors.com lets one know what to expect as far as correctness and quality. At least those that have inspected and or judged his restorations. ::)

I havent seen that name in ages.  They used to advertise in Hemmings way back.
He was the one that adv a 5.00 hr shop rate which was crazy cheap 25/30 years ago . The catch was the hourly rate clock started when you dropped the car off and ran non stop 24/7 throughout the restoration. At least that is what several customers have told me over the years. 
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Coralsnake on April 17, 2024, 06:01:12 PM
I am thinking thats slightly illegal
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Bob Gaines on April 17, 2024, 06:20:21 PM
Something looks very wrong in these two pictures and I don't mean the terrible historic detailing. The red flag is at full mast.
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Bob Gaines on April 17, 2024, 06:21:10 PM
Hint, it is as it relates to a CJ or SCJ 4 speed. ;)
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: 69 GT350 Vert on April 17, 2024, 06:33:05 PM
No staggered shocks and the cut out for center exhaust collector should not be all the way to bottom of valance.  At least it isn't on my Shelby. 
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: TLea on April 23, 2024, 02:17:46 PM
I saw this car in person maybe 7-8 years ago. Its a restamped 351W car. Stay away
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: SCJSTU on April 23, 2024, 03:05:10 PM
Quote from: TLea on April 23, 2024, 02:17:46 PMI saw this car in person maybe 7-8 years ago. Its a restamped 351W car. Stay away

as in fender aprons?
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Coralsnake on April 23, 2024, 03:18:55 PM
Or as in whole body replaced ?
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Bob Gaines on April 23, 2024, 09:19:54 PM
Quote from: SCJSTU on April 23, 2024, 03:05:10 PM
Quote from: TLea on April 23, 2024, 02:17:46 PMI saw this car in person maybe 7-8 years ago. Its a restamped 351W car. Stay away

as in fender aprons?
-and most likely everything else. Tlea first hand observations confirms that.   
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Bob Gaines on April 23, 2024, 09:27:33 PM
Years ago there was a puff piece done I think in Mustang Monthly on Jerry's (Telestar Motors) restorations . Special Ed remembers. They showed a picture of a junk pile of misc parts and the caption bragged if Jerry couldn't find a part he needed then he just made it! hmmmmm?
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: 5s386 on April 24, 2024, 06:04:33 PM
What is the Shelby VIN?
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Coralsnake on April 24, 2024, 07:13:14 PM
9F03R481104

Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Stillakid54 on April 25, 2024, 11:33:13 AM
Sorry to demonstrate my simple Canadian naivety, but is that not simple out and out fraud?
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Coralsnake on April 25, 2024, 11:41:04 AM
People break the law everyday, you need a perpetrator, a victim and the willingness for someone to do something about it.
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: SCJSTU on April 25, 2024, 11:54:04 AM
Here is what the 2023 Registry has on the car.
Telstar has owned the car since 2012.
Previous owner before Telstar Larry Mallon had car restoration done . Not sure what work Telstar did.
Car at that time came from Michigan.

Someone may not be happy after buying the car I would assume.
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Royce Peterson on April 25, 2024, 12:33:16 PM
The spring shocks are a unique touch.
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Coralsnake on April 25, 2024, 12:36:07 PM
I would like to see a lot more pictures 🥸
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Special Ed on April 25, 2024, 12:46:07 PM
Like the dual exhaust hangers mountings and wrap around shock towers. Why would telstar even buy this car as he surely knew gt500 4-speeds had staggered shocks or not?
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Coralsnake on April 25, 2024, 01:10:52 PM
He didnt know
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: SCJSTU on April 25, 2024, 01:22:10 PM
fun fact car was born a 4-speed then converted to automatic and painted red ( wonder what original color was)

why would you convert a SCJ 4-speed car to automatic?

automatic may explain why no staggered rear shocks but wait....

also is there a way to tell if this car has the recall done on fuel vent as stated it was done in the registry?

So guess Telstar converted back to a 4-speed
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Coralsnake on April 25, 2024, 01:32:53 PM
It was a black jade car

Yes, the fuel vapor line is noted in the warranty records
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: SCJSTU on April 25, 2024, 03:17:00 PM
Pete, I guess my question is can you tell on this car it's the fuel vapor line recall was done to it or not that may be a telltale sign
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: TLea on April 25, 2024, 03:29:26 PM
Aprons had R stamped over H, no staggered shocks, wrap around towers, what would you call it?  ::)
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Coralsnake on April 25, 2024, 04:59:20 PM
The pictures on Hemmings show the fuel vapor line modification.

I dont think there is enough there, to determine if it was dealer done or added during the restoration
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Bob Gaines on April 25, 2024, 06:20:26 PM
Quote from: SCJSTU on April 25, 2024, 03:17:00 PMPete, I guess my question is can you tell on this car it's the fuel vapor line recall was done to it or not that may be a telltale sign
Not really a telltale sign . Many cars never went back in for the recall. I know of numerous owners who drove their cars for decades without knowing of the potential problem. I would be nervous to drive a 69/70 GT500 without the recall but that is just me . I have had two second hand bad examples of what can happen that are always in the back of my mind. 
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Coralsnake on April 25, 2024, 07:24:00 PM
I note a orice drop to $275k on Hemmings.

Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Special Ed on April 25, 2024, 07:30:09 PM
This car is a bargain 2 cars for the price of one or buy one get one FREEEEEEEEE.  This car was originally black jade  white interior black top a 1 of 1 combo 1969 4-speed gt 500 drag pack vert with only 14 total 1969 drag pack gt500 shelby  4-speed verts made so it WAS a very rare desirable shelby at one time anyway.
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: SCJSTU on April 25, 2024, 08:58:53 PM
someone should ask to get pictures of the back seat area with the rear seat removed and let's see what color is underneath....someone might have been lazy
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Special Ed on April 25, 2024, 10:28:26 PM
and look for dual exhaust hanger plates under rear seat.
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: J_Speegle on April 26, 2024, 01:14:30 AM
Quote from: Special Ed on April 25, 2024, 07:30:09 PMThis car is a bargain 2 cars for the price of one or buy one get one FREEEEEEEEE.  This car was originally black jade  white interior black top a 1 of 1 combo 1969 4-speed gt 500 drag pack vert ..............


Or at least the VIN that goes with those stats was a rare car indeed
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Coralsnake on April 26, 2024, 06:58:34 AM
Agreed, it sounds like youre buying a story
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: Coralsnake on April 26, 2024, 09:12:49 AM
...and potentially legal problems
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: shelbymann1970 on April 30, 2024, 01:27:27 PM
Quote from: TLea on April 25, 2024, 03:29:26 PMAprons had R stamped over H, no staggered shocks, wrap around towers, what would you call it?  ::)
With the R stamped over the H what about the consecutive unit numbers? They have to be different also, right? Were they stamped over?
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: TLea on April 30, 2024, 02:50:17 PM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on April 30, 2024, 01:27:27 PM
Quote from: TLea on April 25, 2024, 03:29:26 PMAprons had R stamped over H, no staggered shocks, wrap around towers, what would you call it?  ::)
With the R stamped over the H what about the consecutive unit numbers? They have to be different also, right? Were they stamped over?
Like I said it was 7-8 years ago and I didn't have a registry with me to look up anything. What I saw was enough evidence for me
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: SCJSTU on April 30, 2024, 03:33:38 PM
AFTER all this ......why list this car now........a reputation only goes so far with the internet.
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: SCOTTGTK on July 08, 2024, 09:55:13 PM
WOW !
Title: Re: 1969 Drag Pak convertible
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on July 08, 2024, 10:07:13 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on April 17, 2024, 12:53:34 PMIts unusual to see one being sold.

This is THE ONLY ONE - it's got a magic Marti 1 of 1 report..........