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Title: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: CompRed70scj on February 29, 2024, 07:56:56 PM
Hey all, I have a 1970 GT 500, pretty original car. Trying to revive it from a slumber after buying it out of an estate. One of the first things I noticed was the car has 69 metal and the 1970 paper door tag. Has anyone come across a similar situation? The car was converted to a '70 at Kar Kraft.

Also - not sure why my photos are sideways. Tips appreciated on how to correct that!
Title: Re: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: Coralsnake on February 29, 2024, 08:03:50 PM
They should have removed the 1969 warranty tag, looks like an oversight
Title: Re: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: Bob Gaines on February 29, 2024, 08:05:56 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on February 29, 2024, 08:03:50 PM
They should have removed the 1969 warranty tag, looks like an oversight
+1 . Seldom seen oversight.
Title: Re: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: 427hunter on February 29, 2024, 09:10:57 PM
Congrats on the find!
Title: Re: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: shelbymann1970 on March 01, 2024, 09:45:21 AM
nice find. I assume competition red? 3.91  4 speed. black interior. June 18th scheduled build. 9F02R483095
Title: Re: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: CompRed70scj on March 01, 2024, 10:28:21 AM
That's right. It still wears some of its original paint, though with a fair amount of blending in.

I also found this in the trunk, passenger side where the drop offs are. Would this have been on the dash before being removed and replaced with the Shelby GT 500?
Title: Re: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: Special Ed on March 01, 2024, 10:59:13 AM
Interesting kool car find so now i wonder if aosmith peeled off dash mach1 decal and added shelby gt500 decal as that would have been easy instead of removing rh dash the replace the chrome  mach 1 plaque with a shelby plaque?  Or did the mach1 plaque get forgotton to remove then replaced at KK plant if an inspector seen the mistake or maybe the dealer corrected it.  My coral scj 4 speed vert was also sold at same FL  luke bolton ford dealer a kool pair of shelbys sold at same dealer and both 70  KK  late big suspension cars. Red 70 scj what part of the usa is shelby in now would make a kool photo?
Title: Re: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: CompRed70scj on March 01, 2024, 11:22:35 AM
Quote from: Special Ed on March 01, 2024, 10:59:13 AM
Interesting kool car find so now i wonder if aosmith peeled off dash mach1 decal and added shelby gt500 decal as that would have been easy instead of removing rh dash the replace the chrome  mach 1 plaque with a shelby plaque?  Or did the mach1 plaque get forgotton to remove then replaced at KK plant if an inspector seen the mistake or maybe the dealer corrected it.  My coral scj 4 speed vert was also sold at same FL  luke bolton ford dealer a kool pair of shelbys sold at same dealer and both 70  KK  late big suspension cars. Red 70 scj what part of the usa is shelby in now would make a kool photo?

I'm in Charlotte, NC. That would be great! I'm building a new garage so I'll have a better space to work on it. In the meantime the car's waiting patiently at a friend's. I need to get on it because all my NOS and good original parts seem to be ending up on Roger Park's 1969 Boss 429! (Kidding!)
Title: Re: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: shelbymann1970 on March 01, 2024, 11:32:43 AM
VERY cool car! Have you seen the sister 500 mile car to yours( drag pack4 speed  but white interior)?
Title: Re: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: Special Ed on March 01, 2024, 12:09:50 PM
Yep that car and another with black interior same combo came from same NJ area recently restored by bob wilson so thats 3 70 coral dragpacks  4 speed shelby fastbacks that exist good looking kool cars.
Title: Re: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: CompRed70scj on March 01, 2024, 12:13:45 PM
Quote from: Special Ed on March 01, 2024, 12:09:50 PM
Yep that car and another with black interior same combo came from same NJ area recently restored by bob wilson so thats 3 70 coral dragpacks  4 speed shelby fastbacks that exist good looking kool cars.

And Kenny Falk in Amarillo TX owns a comp red, 70 SCJ 4 speed as well, #3177. Twin to mine and Michael Stearn's car. Bob Wilson did Michael's, which was a really low-mileage example. Our cars were built the same day so we've compared notes between the cars.
Title: Re: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: shelbymann1970 on March 01, 2024, 12:24:37 PM
Quote from: Special Ed on March 01, 2024, 12:09:50 PM
Yep that car and another with black interior same combo came from same NJ area recently restored by bob wilson so thats 3 70 coral dragpacks  4 speed shelby fastbacks that exist good looking kool cars.
Did you read the Marti report on the 500 mile original car? Says 98 with 428SCJ drag pack for the 1970 Shelby FB. Is that correct? Here are pics of the Bob Wilson restored car you just mentioned Ed.  Last pic is the Marti from the 500 mile all original car #2686.
Title: Re: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: Special Ed on March 01, 2024, 01:19:59 PM
Compred  falks car ken bramlets old car is 1707 and i went to kansas back 35 years ago or so to buy that car but couldnt document if it was an original big suspension f-60-15 car as this was before shelby paperwork was found back in mid 90s so i told ken about it and he bought it and did a driver resto then sold it to build  a new house and we tracked down the old owner in IL and he had a boss 429 also he was driving at that time.  My car is 2655 and it was found in NC also in an old cotton gin barn just north east of charlotte also.
Title: Re: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: Special Ed on March 01, 2024, 01:53:15 PM
Gary there probly is less than 10 known 70 coral scj 4 speed fastbacks that survived. I keep track of the scj verts and there is 1 coral 69 scj vert and its a 4 speed in the LA shelby muesum and 2 70 coral scj 4 speeds verts mine with white interior and falks with black and only 1 coral automatic and its a 70 also just bought from OO at KC mecum and mason jones bought it so 4 total coral scj verts were made and all of them still exist. It is no surprize to me that most of 43  69-70 gt500 drag pack verts still exist and i got records of all of them in order 24 - 4-speeds and 19 - auto total and the reason i think most still exist is they were expensive rare unique cars so even if wrecked they were fixed and not sent to the crusher. Just look at how many cuda and challenger hemi or 6 packs verts still exist most of them because they were expensive rare cars that got fixed not crushed.
Title: Re: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: Coralsnake on March 01, 2024, 02:05:29 PM
Who knew? Ed was interested in drag pak convertibles? 😃
Title: Re: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: shelbymann1970 on March 01, 2024, 02:11:12 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 01, 2024, 02:05:29 PM
Who knew? Ed was interested in drag pak convertibles? 😃
These photos gave it away to me . First one Ed's wedding. Second one 2 of his at 100 years Ford show. The trunk protective strip out of one of those 2 cars at the 2003 show  is in my vert now.
Title: Re: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: Special Ed on March 01, 2024, 02:12:34 PM
Compred just checked 3177 is car billups had out of OK sold to ken falk  sorry  i thought u were talking about falks  70 coral scj 4-speed vert thats 1707. Yeah Ken falks just trying to show me up having identical twins both same 70 cars vert and fastback haha so i guess i need to buy phil q. 500 mile  70 fastback so i got identical twins both 70 coral gt500s scj 4 speeds with white interior and same options so i can keep up with him ya think?
Title: Re: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: shelbymann1970 on March 01, 2024, 02:23:33 PM
Quote from: Special Ed on March 01, 2024, 02:12:34 PM
Compred just checked 3177 is car billups had out of OK sold to ken falk  sorry  i thought u were talking about falks  70 coral scj 4-speed vert thats 1707. Yeah Ken falks just trying to show me up having identical twins both same 70 cars vert and fastback haha so i guess i need to buy phil q. 500 mile  70 fastback so i got identical twins both 70 coral gt500s scj 4 speeds with white interior and same options so i can keep up with him ya think?
Nah, your Midnight Orchid 4.30 gear trumps them all. Some are so jealous they piss on it.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: Special Ed on March 01, 2024, 02:29:07 PM
Yeah thats been over 20 years now the ford 100 years show a great historic event not to be missed as its the only car event my dad ever went to with me and my brother pat who helps me restore cars and dad wanted to see the event but really wanted to see the henry ford muesum and greenfield village and the ford assembly plant tour ford did as part of the 100 year events.  The 2 orange 70 scj 4-speed verts are identical cars with same options consecutive serial # 2655-2656 and are ford executives shelbys built together but they changed the color combo coral/white and grabber orange/black and they both have original drivetrains with about the same mileage and being assigned to ford executives they had an easy early life.
Title: Re: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: Special Ed on March 01, 2024, 02:50:46 PM
Yeah gary thats a great photo of  Chris Brown the clown  and i sure miss that guy (RIP) as he was always the fun party guy to be around never a dull moment when he was around. That was the only time i had purple car at mid america tulsa event to do photo shoot with the 2 purple 69 mach 1s  kelly s. and tony k. cars and donald farr did the photo shoot of the purple reunion 2 scjs and 1 cj how kool is that?
Title: Re: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: shelbymann1970 on March 01, 2024, 03:29:44 PM
Quote from: Special Ed on March 01, 2024, 02:50:46 PM
Yeah gary thats a great photo of  Chris Brown the clown  and i sure miss that guy (RIP) as he was always the fun party guy to be around never a dull moment when he was around. That was the only time i had purple car at mid america tulsa event to do photo shoot with the 2 purple 69 mach 1s  kelly s. and tony k. cars and donald farr did the photo shoot of the purple reunion 2 scjs and 1 cj how kool is that?
Very KOOL.
Title: Re: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: Coralsnake on March 01, 2024, 05:30:32 PM
Gary in reply 8 donyou have number of that mcacn car??
Title: Re: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: SCJ3126 on March 01, 2024, 06:29:05 PM
Pete,
The MCACN (2023) car in Gary's picture is my car (Bob Wilson restored it)...... # 3126.

Thanks!

Mike Stearns
Title: Re: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: Coralsnake on March 01, 2024, 06:43:10 PM
Thanks Mike!

Title: Re: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: SCJ3126 on March 01, 2024, 07:06:23 PM
Pete,
Oops!  I just realized you were asking about the car # in reply # 8. 

That is a picture of Phil Quinn's car at an earlier MCACN event.  His car is # 2686 as Gary mentioned in reply #11 (Reply # 11 has pictures of my car at MCACN 2023, but includes Phil's Marti report in the same reply)

Sorry for the confusion.

Mike Stearns
Title: Re: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: Special Ed on March 02, 2024, 06:39:12 AM
In garys photo of the 3 purple 69s those 3 purple boxes  on shakers and surfboard are 6-packs of purple haze beer since some people still think Jimi Hendrix is still alive haha.
Title: Re: 1970 Shelby with both Door Tags
Post by: shelbymann1970 on March 02, 2024, 07:12:48 AM
Quote from: SCJ3126 on March 01, 2024, 07:06:23 PM
Pete,
Oops!  I just realized you were asking about the car # in reply # 8. 

That is a picture of Phil Quinn's car at an earlier MCACN event.  His car is # 2686 as Gary mentioned in reply #11 (Reply # 11 has pictures of my car at MCACN 2023, but includes Phil's Marti report in the same reply)

Sorry for the confusion.

Mike Stearns
Hi  Mike, I wish I could have met you there by your car. My pics I blew up the marti report of 2686. Here it is. 500 mile car. Again, I wished I took more pics. The owner(Phil) was gracious enough to let me get up real close but when I am running around MCACN I tend to not take as many pics as I like and still end up with hundreds. What is interesting is look at the Marti report and out of 641 total 70 FBs(Gt350 and 500s) 172 had R-code and "6" trans. 96 or 98 were drag pack cars(doesn't say if auto and 4 speed combined but assume as such?). That lends to what Ed said as they being more expensive so more left to convert to 70s.