For Sale or Trade SOLD:
1987 SAAC registry. Good used. Does show wear, but information is all legible.
$40 SOLD - plus shipping or prefer to trade for a 1982 copy.
I bought this at a swap meet the other day thinking this was the last one I needed for my collection, but found I already had it and need the 1982 copy. I am just passing this along for the price I paid. Send me a PM if you are interested. Thank you.
(https://www.saac.com/forum/gallery/44-040224234803.jpeg)
Brian,
PM sent.
Cheers,
~Earl J
SOLD
Well, the ol' '70 Shelby's moment of fame in SAAC, being on the cover jacket! 8)
Wait..............is that a non original O.E.M., as it left the factory hood scoop (like these didn't have enough scoops & vents to start with! ::))? And man, those rear tires sure do hang outside of those fender wells a bunch! :o
Well, I guess we would of course probably have to acknowledge the value of having the P51 in the back-drop! ::)
Scott.
Quote from: pbf777 on February 07, 2024, 10:50:01 AM
Well, the ol' '70 Shelby's moment of fame in SAAC, being on the cover jacket! 8)
Wait..............is that a non original O.E.M., as it left the factory hood scoop (like these didn't have enough scoops & vents to start with! ::))? And man, those rear tires sure do hang outside of those fender wells a bunch! :o
Well, I guess we would of course probably have to acknowledge the value of having the P51 in the back-drop! ::)
Scott.
Scott,
A P-51 in the background is always a good thing.
John
Quote from: pbf777 on February 07, 2024, 10:50:01 AM
Well, the ol' '70 Shelby's moment of fame in SAAC, being on the cover jacket! 8)
Wait..............is that a non original O.E.M., as it left the factory hood scoop (like these didn't have enough scoops & vents to start with! ::))? And man, those rear tires sure do hang outside of those fender wells a bunch! :o
Well, I guess we would of course probably have to acknowledge the value of having the P51 in the back-drop! ::)
Scott.
Some where in my stash of Shelby stuff, and it's a lot, I have about 5 of those Dust Jackets that are NOS.
Quote from: tesgt350 on February 07, 2024, 03:45:28 PM
Some where in my stash of Shelby stuff, and it's a lot, I have about 5 of those Dust Jackets that are NOS.
If you happen to ever find them, and perhaps wish to sell one, I'd like to get one. ;D
Scott.
Quote from: pbf777 on February 07, 2024, 04:12:05 PM
Quote from: tesgt350 on February 07, 2024, 03:45:28 PM
Some where in my stash of Shelby stuff, and it's a lot, I have about 5 of those Dust Jackets that are NOS.
If you happen to ever find them, and perhaps wish to sell one, I'd like to get one. ;D
Scott.
OK, I will hunt for them.
Me too!
Quote from: tesgt350 on February 07, 2024, 04:21:03 PM
OK, I will hunt for them.
Thank you.
Unfortunately, do to the years of exposure my edition looks similar to the one above (not to mention it seems the green (nor red) ink utilized wasn't very U.V. tolerant :() , and it would be nice to have something better if only for remembrance (perhaps for framing ::)) sake.
Scott.
Quote from: JohnSlack on February 07, 2024, 01:38:26 PMA P-51 in the background is always a good thing.
You can never have too many Mustangs even if they have a GM Allison V-12. Yeah I know the Merlin was faster but it was an import. Chevy even used the same valve cover look on the BB.
Hi,
Just a quick history lesson on the Merlin. By largest count they were assembeled by Packard so even with the RR connection they
are still somewhat domestic. Also way above the Generous Mistake Allison for power-reliability-and most say the Merlin is the best
QUALITY 12 EVER. Packard was the supplier of engines for tanks as well as marine vessels of WW2. They never get the credit they
deserve, and so much of what we use in todays cars can be traced back to them. Sorry for the rant, it is not meant to upset anyone
just to keep history accurate.
R.R.
I wish....
Cheers,
~Earl J
Quote from: Road Reptile on February 07, 2024, 06:50:31 PM
Hi,
Just a quick history lesson on the Merlin. By largest count they were assembled by Packard so even with the RR connection they
are still somewhat domestic. Also way above the Generous Mistake Allison for power-reliability-and most say the Merlin is the best
QUALITY 12 EVER. Packard was the supplier of engines for tanks as well as marine vessels of WW2. They never get the credit they
deserve, and so much of what we use in today's cars can be traced back to them. Sorry for the rant, it is not meant to upset anyone
just to keep history accurate.
R.R.
Thanks, R.R. I was about to make that point that the Merlins in Mustangs were produced by Packard. You beat me to it and were more informative in any case. Good job!
Took a flight in a P51 out of Janesville, Wi in 2019. The best money I ever spent
and will remember it till the day I die. My father was an instructor like Shelby in
WW2 except dad flew fighters and I think Shelby flew bombers? Terry
Quote from: Road Reptile on February 07, 2024, 06:50:31 PM
Hi,
Just a quick history lesson on the Merlin. By largest count they were assembeled by Packard so even with the RR connection they
are still somewhat domestic. Also way above the Generous Mistake Allison for power-reliability-and most say the Merlin is the best
QUALITY 12 EVER. Packard was the supplier of engines for tanks as well as marine vessels of WW2. They never get the credit they
deserve, and so much of what we use in todays cars can be traced back to them. Sorry for the rant, it is not meant to upset anyone
just to keep history accurate.
R.R.
To be historically accurate Packard made hundreds of changes to the Rolls Royce Merlin. Packard ditched the problematic and unreliable clutch system that Rolls designed for the supercharger and replaced that system with a roller clutch system adapted from Curtiss Wright's design. While that may not sound like much in fact it was huge. In addition Packard ultimately designed the end to end oiling system for the crankshaft. There were multitudes of other better features that Packard designed into the Merlin engine.
Packard was so far ahead in producing parts for the Merlin that they had hundreds of engines worth when the big switch shut them down at the war's end. The reason that later model U.S. V12s went back to Allison engines was the royalty that Packard had to pay to Rolls Royce was $1,000.00 per engine. Across the 55,000 plus engines that Packard built is $55,000,000.00 in royalties.
As a young man I was taught that a Merlin in a box was faster than an Allison in an airplane.
Now I've been historically accurate.
John
Quote from: S7MS427 on February 08, 2024, 11:50:35 AM
Quote from: Road Reptile on February 07, 2024, 06:50:31 PM
Hi,
Just a quick history lesson on the Merlin. By largest count they were assembled by Packard so even with the RR connection they
are still somewhat domestic. Also way above the Generous Mistake Allison for power-reliability-and most say the Merlin is the best
QUALITY 12 EVER. Packard was the supplier of engines for tanks as well as marine vessels of WW2. They never get the credit they
deserve, and so much of what we use in today's cars can be traced back to them. Sorry for the rant, it is not meant to upset anyone
just to keep history accurate.
R.R.
Thanks, R.R. I was about to make that point that the Merlins in Mustangs were produced by Packard. You beat me to it and were more informative in any case. Good job!
Single stage Merlin engines also powered some Hurricanes, some Spitfires and a bunch of Lancaster bombers. Two stage Packard Merlin engines powered some Spitfires.