https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/d/1967-gt500-shelby/6645955057.html
This owner sure has a quandary. Looks like a nice car visually but the history is gonna make it a very hard sell unless he sold it at a price of a nice 67 mustang IMO.
say what you want, but did you even notice the super rare diesel option? yea, phred
There is no way that goes as cheap as a nice mustang. Needs to go to someone looking for a daily driver not a concours show car
At least the owner is honest and discloses it's history unlike so many of us on here.
VIN to new owner...So you have to buy it THEN get the VIN??? I would say "scary" is about right...
Quote from: Mike James on July 29, 2018, 03:22:03 PM
At least the owner is honest and discloses it's history unlike so many of us on here.
Mike, not sure who you are putting in the "US" category but most of the people that frequent this forum are honest from my experience. Without history and the fact that the registry says it was a total loss coupled with the lack of restoration information is going to make it a hard sale at 6 figures.
Wonder how it feels to drive a big block with no shock tower supports? That's one I've not even tried ::)
Hopefully it's a solid rust free example at least presently since the text suggests that before the restoration it wasn't or the damage was a result of damage from other means. "........the car required an extensive amount of sheet metal durning the restoration"
Quote from: J_Speegle on July 29, 2018, 07:53:55 PM
Wonder how it feels to drive a big block with no shock tower supports? That's one I've not even tried ::)
Hopefully it's a solid rust free example at least presently since the text suggests that before the restoration it wasn't or the damage was a result of damage from other means. "........the car required an extensive amount of sheet metal durning the restoration"
The no shock tower support /export brace is a sign of a clueless restorer that reinforces the infamous caution fan sticker (in this context) as "the" red flag for incorrect details ;) .
Quote from: Greg on July 29, 2018, 02:56:40 PM
https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/d/1967-gt500-shelby/6645955057.html
This owner sure has a quandary. Looks like a nice car visually but the history is gonna make it a very hard sell unless he sold it at a price of a nice 67 mustang IMO.
Can't say I've ever seen this car locally
Quote from: Bob Gaines on July 29, 2018, 08:17:50 PM
The no shock tower support /export brace is a sign of a clueless restorer that reinforces the infamous caution fan sticker (in this context) as "the" red flag for incorrect details ;) .
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This is why it is so important to have an informed examination of a cars qualities by someone that knows. I ran across a really rare beautiful car a while back that I suspected had issues. Things just didn't add up and when I asked "possible rebody" the guy got really pushy and dropped the price by $40K. Needless to say, I didn't buy it. If a person still wanted to spend $$$ after being informed then go for it but the value is in the details.
It's not too far from Pookieville. Looks like his style.
I believe this is car #0670 that was sold at the GAA classics auction in NC back in Feb 2017.
If so, registry notes it was destroyed in a fire.
https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1066633/1967-shelby-gt500-for-sale-in-greensboro-north-carolina-27407
Curiously it shows the shock tower / export brace in the auction photos.
Maybe it was removed to change the plugs and just poor timing for a photo?
No power steering. Ouch!
Strange: if this car is indeed the same #0670 that was sold at the GAA classics auction in NC in Feb 2017, the car somehow lost its shock tower support and power steering (notice the Marti in the #0670 photos)...
What about the "Hidden" VIN#. Isn't there someone in Law Enforcement that can check for it and see if it matches. Way back in the early 80's I bought a totaled Rolling BOSS 429 Body (no Engine or Tans) that was burned out. It suffered an Engine Fire that also took out the complete Interior, and I resold it tripling my Money and the Car was restored.
That is strange, but many of the other details match. The battery hold down is missing too.
Looking at all the Brittany Blue GT500 4spds in the registry with parchment #670 was the only one noted as destroyed.
Here some side by side photos.
Quote from: Richstang on July 30, 2018, 11:04:01 AM
I believe this is car #0670 that was sold at the GAA classics auction in NC back in Feb 2017.
If so, registry notes it was destroyed in a fire.
https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1066633/1967-shelby-gt500-for-sale-in-greensboro-north-carolina-27407
Curiously it shows the shock tower / export brace in the auction photos.
Maybe it was removed to change the plugs and just poor timing for a photo?
Richstang,
I think it is the one sold at GAA in NC Feb. '17. Destroyed in a fire.
I done some investigating by photo comparisons.
I know the radiator caps look the same, theres thread tape used on the intake temp sender, the sticker on the alternator....
But the proof..... look at the back wall where the photo of engine compartment is in the sunshine, there is greasy-looking stains right behind the air cleaner in 3 different places, where the export brace would bolt to the firewall......ok, now look at the engine compartment in the shade and if you look closely you will see the same stain-like marks on the firewall.
I'd say this is #0670 that was destroyed in a fire.
I still think it's the same car too. It's just odd that someone would remove those parts and photograph it for a sales ad.
Now it raises all kinds of questions for potential buyers.
It is #670 sold at the GAA Classics auction and was rebuilt after the fire using the drive train and other usable components from the original car. They did have to rebody it however.
So, it's #0670, but then again, it's not #0670 ::)
Rebody is another automobile with a tag affixed to it.
But, we all knew this, right ???
Quote from: GT350DAVE on July 31, 2018, 05:13:19 PM
It is #670 sold at the GAA Classics auction and was rebuilt after the fire using the drive train and other usable components from the original car. They did have to rebody it however.
Just curious, how much did it sell for?
Quote from: tesgt350 on July 31, 2018, 04:22:19 PM
What about the "Hidden" VIN#. Isn't there someone in Law Enforcement that can check for it and see if it matches. ................
You bet if they know where to look. Remember the people that are doing the looking were not born until these cars were 20 years old and they are not familiar with the cars or the nuances. Often the officers are not car guy, just officers working their way up the food chain and they choose got that desk and not homicide or the hooker/john assignment
This if sometimes discovered during a change of ownership especially if coming from outside the state but sort of too late at that point since you already own it at that point.
Add to this the fact that VINs can be moved so the PD may miss that and not consider the car as a whole. Something that should be considered, looked for and such with a good and as complete as possible inspection up front
Not going to go into all the possibilities and things many of us have seen on a public site or even in private. It can be scary out there – for example I ran across three questionable cars all within a two week period all within 60 miles of one another a while back. One through the PD though they clueless, one through the DMV and one during an inspection where I had to break the news on their new purchase.
Guys I live in Greenville SC and I know this car. A friend of mine almost bought this car before I told him the history on the car. A guy by the name of Gene Gore that owns Gores corvette World bought the car as a rebody. He is the one that put it through the GAA auction so if the car is still in Greenville and for sale I would say Gene did not actually sell it at GAA. I would agree the value is at a really nice Mustang fastback price. There is ZERO original sheet metal on the car! The only original thing on the car is the Shelby VIN plate and I am not sure if that is original because I have not seen the car in years. Someone, who will remain nameless because he owns a well known Mustang restoration shop, tried to sell this car to me 20 years ago. I was able to figure out it was rebody that long ago when I was young and dumb.
I have a note that it sold for 93K at GAA. Perhaps the sale did not go through if the buyer found out it's a re-body.
I'm always thankful for all of Dave's efforts when that info is shared on a car up for sale. Hopefully anyone reading this will take note of the comments made and hire Jeff, Bob, or another Shelby expert to be sure their not taken on any Shelby purchase. I'll absolutely be calling them when I'm ready to get one. However, Dave will be my first call.
Quote from: Chad on July 31, 2018, 08:54:46 PM
Guys I live in Greenville SC and I know this car. A friend of mine almost bought this car before I told him the history on the car. A guy by the name of Gene Gore that owns Gores corvette World bought the car as a rebody. He is the one that put it through the GAA auction so if the car is still in Greenville and for sale I would say Gene did not actually sell it at GAA. I would agree the value is at a really nice Mustang fastback price. There is ZERO original sheet metal on the car! The only original thing on the car is the Shelby VIN plate and I am not sure if that is original because I have not seen the car in years. Someone, who will remain nameless because he owns a well known Mustang restoration shop, tried to sell this car to me 20 years ago. I was able to figure out it was rebody that long ago when I was young and dumb.
Interesting as I have never seen the car at a local show, Cars and Coffee, or even just driving around the area. Plenty of original's in the area, both in and out of the public limelight....Then again, perhaps I'm not surprised, as the scrutiny the car would go through if shown in public would be great. Will have to check my archives, as my wife just mentioned that we saw this car parked downtown a year or two ago a block off main street in a public lot during a Saturday morning farmers market. Will post pics if I can find them.
Quote from: Richstang on July 31, 2018, 10:26:01 PM
I have a note that it sold for 93K at GAA. Perhaps the sale did not go through if the buyer found out it's a re-body.
I'm always thankful for all of Dave's efforts when that info is shared on a car up for sale. Hopefully anyone reading this will take note of the comments made and hire Jeff, Bob, or another Shelby expert to be sure their not taken on any Shelby purchase. I'll absolutely be calling them when I'm ready to get one. However, Dave will be my first call.
I think Dave M knows a good guy in the south to look at cars...
It is now a replica,tribute,clone(whatever)with original parts,pure and simple....
Quote from: 557 on August 01, 2018, 05:44:48 AM
It is now a replica,tribute,clone(whatever)with original parts,pure and simple....
I agree!!!
I thought he said it had the matching numbers on the aprons? phred
Quote from: papa scoops on August 01, 2018, 02:34:50 PM
I thought he said it had the matching numbers on the aprons? phred
Yeah but on the ORIGINAL aprons??Another reason why ,in my opinion,provenance is VERY important.....smoke and mirrors at work I suspect....