SAAC Forum

Deals and Appeals => Up For Auction => Topic started by: Coralsnake on July 24, 2018, 10:47:28 AM

Title: Hipo heads with smog
Post by: Coralsnake on July 24, 2018, 10:47:28 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-1965-66-Shelby-Mustang-289-Hipo-Cylinder-Heads-WOW-C7ZZ-6049-C-Set-Of-2/273367673141?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D7b002e084c1142fc92480a59b8a2f4e8%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D232720043459%26itm%3D273367673141&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A5d764dc4-8f50-11e8-9876-74dbd1802852%7Cparentrq%3Accc195cd1640ab61a419b83afff57942%7Ciid%3A1
Title: Re: Hipo heads with smog
Post by: acman63 on July 24, 2018, 10:58:10 AM
Cool item but he will have them a long time if he sticks to that price
Title: Re: Hipo heads with smog
Post by: BGlover67 on July 24, 2018, 02:31:32 PM
What is the casting dates for these?  Is it in the pics, because I didn't see it.

Are they really that rare?

Title: Re: Hipo heads with smog
Post by: Coralsnake on July 24, 2018, 02:34:05 PM
I am not sure how rare they are...the seller doesnt seem to know either. The high price is just there to protect the parts...it looks like he is taking offers
Title: Re: Hipo heads with smog
Post by: Bob Gaines on July 24, 2018, 03:28:34 PM
With a price like that it would tend to scare off any offers in the 3000-4000 range because you would be too far apart.
Title: Re: Hipo heads with smog
Post by: 6s1640 on July 24, 2018, 04:34:59 PM
Because these are service parts and not assembly line parts, it is hard to imagine the asking price, let alone the $3K to $4k.  The seller does not offer any casting date codes, but I'd guess 1968.  I have the same set, used.  The underside should have a 302 marking and the upper 289.

His claim "This is perfect for a true complete restoration when only the original and best will do." is not accurate if the casting date codes do not align with an intended car getting the perfect restoration.

I'd price them less than $2000.

Take care

Cory
Title: Re: Hipo heads with smog
Post by: gt350hr on July 24, 2018, 05:19:08 PM
  This is surprising being the seller isn't in WA or NJ. Bob P wouldn't even ask that much! I sold a pair of NOS FE GT40 aluminum heads in Holman Moody  boxes for less than that! The picture is a little fuzzy are they gold plated? ;)
Title: Re: Hipo heads with smog
Post by: Coralsnake on July 24, 2018, 06:01:44 PM
I think it would have been better to have a hidden reserve.

I have seen the same things on cars, once the number is attached it scares a lot of people away.
Title: Re: Hipo heads with smog
Post by: Harris Speedster on July 24, 2018, 06:24:19 PM
I know 68-69 and 70 Shelby's, for the most part, had smog,
Pretty much all for CA, even back in the day.

I have never heard of a 67 Shelby GT 350  having smog?
Of the 6 GT 350's I owned in the past, none had smog
Please enlighten me if I am wrong.

I know some 67 500's had it, most part, CA. cars, correct?
Is this guy singing to an absent audience ?

>>>>>>>>>>>
Wonder how many regular 67 Mustang K car's  had smog?
Big Jim, is your 67 K  ragtop a smog car?

With respect,
John
Title: Re: Hipo heads with smog
Post by: Coralsnake on July 24, 2018, 06:43:19 PM
Yes there were 289 hipo GT350 smog cars in 1967

In 1968 all Shelby's had "smog" except the 302/automatics, regardless of shipping destinations

1969 small blocks/ 351 cars had no smog

Smog/no smog had more to do with engine certifications than shipping destination
Title: Re: Hipo heads with smog
Post by: 6s1640 on July 24, 2018, 08:22:11 PM
The seller has advised me the casting date code is 3M20.  Based on the C7ZZ-6049-C 1967 part number, the date is not likely to be December 20, 1963. The most likely date is December 20, 1973.  They are definitely not December 20, 1983 since they were sold in 1978.

These would never have been original equipment on a "August 20, 1964 to January 3, 1967" HiPo K-code or GT350 car.  They are not the  "perfect for a true complete restoration when only the original and best will do."

He will be lucky to get $1500.  He does have some other interesting pieces.

Cory
Title: Re: Hipo heads with smog
Post by: 69mach351w on July 24, 2018, 08:41:00 PM
Quote from: 6s1640 on July 24, 2018, 08:22:11 PM
The seller has advised me the casting date code is 3M20.  Based on the C7ZZ-6049-C 1967 part number, the date is not likely to be December 20, 1963. The most likely date is December 20, 1973.  They are definitely not December 20, 1983 since they were sold in 1978.

These would never have been original equipment on a "August 20, 1964 to January 3, 1967" HiPo K-code or GT350 car.  They are not the  "perfect for a true complete restoration when only the original and best will do."

He will be lucky to get $1500.  He does have some other interesting pieces.

Cory
LOL, Remember, we're talking about eBay :o   The uneducated will pay his $$ or offer something close ::)
Title: Re: Hipo heads with smog
Post by: gt350hr on July 25, 2018, 12:01:21 PM
   Good job Cory! that makes them from the LAST run of those parts before they went "D99" or obsolete. 7 years was the "normal" limit on replacement parts unless there was extreme popularity like KONI shocks and some other stuff until they finally got the axe 15 or so years ago.
    Randy
Title: Re: Hipo heads with smog
Post by: PR on July 26, 2018, 10:40:34 AM
I passed on a used set for 650. ,6 years ago
Title: Re: Hipo heads with smog
Post by: J_Speegle on July 28, 2018, 06:33:17 PM
Quote from: Harris Speedster on July 24, 2018, 06:24:19 PM
I have never heard of a 67 Shelby GT 350  having smog?
Of the 6 GT 350's I owned in the past, none had smog
Please enlighten me if I am wrong.

Took until late in the production year for Calif (and possibly a couple of other states after that) to catch on or be concerned with the limited numbers of these cars and demand that a system be installed in cars being delivered to the state with that engine.

Didn't get the requirement in place until mid April 67 So there is a fair small window of time and where they were sent that together make up a fairly small pool of cars. No I've not counted the number of cars this would have been :)
Title: Re: Hipo heads with smog
Post by: 67_1183 on July 28, 2018, 06:47:20 PM
Quote from: J_Speegle on July 28, 2018, 06:33:17 PM
Quote from: Harris Speedster on July 24, 2018, 06:24:19 PM
I have never heard of a 67 Shelby GT 350  having smog?
Of the 6 GT 350's I owned in the past, none had smog
Please enlighten me if I am wrong.

Took until late in the production year for Calif (and possibly a couple of other states after that) to catch on or be concerned with the limited numbers of these cars and demand that a system be installed in cars being delivered to the state with that engine.

Didn't get the requirement in place until mid April 67 So there is a fair small window of time and where they were sent that together make up a fairly small pool of cars. No I've not counted the number of cars this would have been :)

My database* shows 97 total GT350 with smog:

67202   54
67203   5
67212   28
67213   10


*Your mileage may vary.  ;D
Title: Re: Hipo heads with smog
Post by: Harris Speedster on July 28, 2018, 07:23:28 PM
I assume those were mostly California cars?

That is quite a few cars, never would have guessed.
An old dog that is always ready to learn more.
With respect,
John