Are these correct drums for a 65 and 65/66 backing plates? What are these worth?
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the last pictures should be for a 67 with part no. 70859 KH
I believe the correct drums have a square hole punched between the lug holes
Quote from: davez on October 26, 2023, 05:04:39 PM
I believe the correct drums have a square hole punched between the lug holes
'67s have square holes.
Quote from: 430dragpack on October 26, 2023, 05:52:09 PM
Quote from: davez on October 26, 2023, 05:04:39 PM
I believe the correct drums have a square hole punched between the lug holes
'67s have square holes.
To be more precise 66 and 67 have the square hole 65's and some early 66 have three raised nubs on the face.
From my observations, 49294(5) backing plates are typically 65's. My notes also show one very early 66 with them originally, but most all true 66's appear to have 70390(1) backing plates. Carryovers appear to have a mixture of both.
ok then I was right, what are the drums and 2 backing plates are worth?
If someone has 2 drums for my 67 GT500 and the backing plates we also can talk about a trade.
I can only see that Jay Cushman sold a set in 2019 but not the price he sold them for is there someone who can give me a route for the price or maybe someone here wants to trade for some 67 GT500 parts I would need?
Quote from: Kent on November 15, 2023, 02:11:36 AM
I can only see that Jay Cushman sold a set in 2019 but not the price he sold them for is there someone who can give me a route for the price or maybe someone here wants to trade for some 67 GT500 parts I would need?
That style drum you pictured was not used on any year Shelby and have little value to someone wanting original.
Ok now I´m confused as these were bought from a saac member some years ago. And they have the 3 nubs and I have seen exactly the same ones on Ebay a while ago for sale for a extreme high price.
Quote from: Kent on November 16, 2023, 02:24:21 AM
Ok now I´m confused as these were bought from a saac member some years ago. And they have the 3 nubs and I have seen exactly the same ones on Ebay a while ago for sale for a extreme high price.
The extra holes in the face do not add to the authenticity.A shame those are there because they do have the nubs.
Someone would have to weld those up and metal finish them off and blend in the surrounding patina surface so that the repair is not noticeable. Then they would be fit for someone to use on a early Shelby IMO.
O.K. so it's not "correct", but just put the wheel on and nobody will see the extra holes in the face of the drum! ;) They're a wear item, so if you drive and enjoy your vehicle you'll wear them out anyway (hopefully these are usable?) and in the future be tossing them. :)
Now, if you still have the "original" tires mounted................ ::)
Scott.
Often enough I see drums for sale here and on Ebay. How about making certain the inside diameter of the drum does NOT exceed the factory limit by posting the measurement. Most any quality Muffler and brake place will have a drum claliper to do this.
Quote from: pbf777 on November 16, 2023, 11:36:25 AM
O.K. so it's not "correct", but just put the wheel on and nobody will see the extra holes in the face of the drum! ;) They're a wear item, so if you drive and enjoy your vehicle you'll wear them out anyway (hopefully these are usable?) and in the future be tossing them. :)
Now, if you still have the "original" tires mounted................ ::)
Scott.
The discussion has to do with a part that is assemblyline correct for a potential 400K+ 65 GT350 and not a every day driver. All things being equal the parts that go into that 400K+ car greatly help determine its potential value with the more well done and correct typically commanding the highest price . By your logic then the nubs which in this case are a defining assemblyline factor would not be relevant ether because they are not seen once a wheel and tire mounted. That is when you get into the realm of what will work and vs. what is assemblyline correct. Every aspect of the part helps determine its market value by informed buyers. There are other drum alternatives that will work but they will most likely not have the same value as a assemblyline part relevant to a specific model. With all that said obviously Kent is trying to get a market value for the drums as it relates to " seen exactly the same ones on Ebay a while ago for sale for a extreme high price". In this case the condition of the drum as it pertains to the assemblyline originality aspect along with mechanical functionality has a direct correlation with market value regardless if seen or not.
Quote from: Kent on October 28, 2023, 03:01:05 AM
If someone has 2 drums for my 67 GT500 and the backing plates we also can talk about a trade.
Quote from: Bob Gaines on November 16, 2023, 02:23:54 PM
.............,obviously Kent is trying to get a market value for the drums ....................
And yes Bob I understood all of that, and I was attempting to participate in his effort to establish the value of his drums, even if not "assembly line correct", this in that apparently other than the "holes" that I was pointing out wouldn't be seen on an assembled vehicle (I'll bet if one were looking hard enough, though could establish the presents of the "nubs" or not? :-\) and that otherwise they would present a proper appearance, and more than usable (If in good condition), and are a perishable item in the end anyway. All of this perhaps being considered when one attempts to establish the value. :)
And yes, I do understand such intentions, as over the years we have had customers wanting "date code correct" (they were stamped on the back! ;)) bearings utilized in their "restored" engines! Of course, I do remind them: who's gonna look? ::)
Scott.
Certainly worth the trouble to fix all other things being equal . If the lining is not within specs there are people who can reline a otherwise good condition drum but all of these steps have significant costs which would have to be taken into consideration when trying to determine a market value or when a buyer was making a informed decision to buy. Just my 2 cents.
I know it's difficult with all these old parts and building something to concours. What really sucks is that this is not the first time that someone from the forum did send me wrong stuff. I bought them in 2020 I think and it was claimed for a 67 and that's what I received. I maybe don't tell what I have paid for the stuff.
So at the moment I just have one backing plate for my 67 9" rear end I want to restore. Who can help me out with the drums and the missing backing plate?