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The Cars => 1965 GT350/R-Model => Topic started by: Craig Mazzola on October 17, 2023, 10:03:23 AM

Title: Valance/Stone Guard
Post by: Craig Mazzola on October 17, 2023, 10:03:23 AM
Looking for the paint code for the painted brackets for the front bumper.  Also, looking for photos of the underside of the stone guard and back side of the front valance.  Would like to paint as close to original as possible.  Thank you for all the help so far. 
Title: Re: Valance/Stone Guard
Post by: Bob Gaines on October 17, 2023, 10:18:34 AM
Quote from: Craig Mazzola on October 17, 2023, 10:03:23 AM
Looking for the paint code for the painted brackets for the front bumper.  Also, looking for photos of the underside of the stone guard and back side of the front valance.  Would like to paint as close to original as possible.  Thank you for all the help so far.
The inner and outer bumper brackets are typically in the semi gloss black range. They were dip painted so typically dried on the shinier side of the range. The sheen varied depending on the local atmospheric and plant conditions at the time of painting. There is no paint code for them. No pictures handy to post but maybe someone else. until then- There could be a range from a little to more substantial amounts of body color over spray on the red oxide primer backside of the stone guard and front valance. The red oxide color could vary some too.
Title: Re: Valance/Stone Guard
Post by: Craig Mazzola on October 17, 2023, 03:37:23 PM
Thank you Bob, I just sent you a email.
Title: Re: Valance/Stone Guard
Post by: J_Speegle on October 17, 2023, 04:07:55 PM
When your spraying these and other panels such as fenders consider that the spray guns of the time put out a fair amount of pressure and in turn overspray. Then also focus on the surfaces that were important to get covered  that you might not think of like the formed edges where the panels attach to each other. If spraying those to assure coverage think about where 90% of what came out of the gun went to - the back side of the panels and or out into open air. This often also created shadows in the overspray directly behind and on the back side of these panel extensions. 
Sometimes the painters got carried away and the back sides got a decent coverage minus the shadows but there can be allot of variations since the affects of the painting can differ if the painter made a single good pass of the gun or if he thought it needed a little more and made two to get what they wanted.


Unfortunately this example is a red over red oxide so it does not show the contrast a white exterior car would show. Will look to see if I can find a better example but this shows some strong exterior paint areas at least. The rought stuff is sound deadener that got applied to these surfaces when the wheel well was coated  - likely from passing the gun around and down the back side of the headlight bucket area and extending the coverage down and forward

(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/19/6-171023160410-195301684.jpeg)
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/19/6-171023160404-195291257.jpeg)


Unfortunately for this example below over the years rust has formed in the thin paint and primer on the base sides making original examples not always great to use to demonstrate what they looked like originally.


(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/19/6-171023160400-195281288.jpeg)
Title: Re: Valance/Stone Guard
Post by: Craig Mazzola on October 19, 2023, 09:53:13 AM
Thank you so much.