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The Cars => 1967 Shelby GT350/500 => Topic started by: texas swede on October 09, 2023, 09:56:22 AM

Title: Shifter Difference between GT350 and GT500
Post by: texas swede on October 09, 2023, 09:56:22 AM
Hi guys,
Anybody knows the difference between the shifter on a GT350 and GT500. Also, the length of the shifter rods.
My friend Roland in Sweden has a shifter marked with a 4 and a C.
Texas Swede
Title: Re: Shifter Difference between GT350 and GT500
Post by: tesgt350 on October 09, 2023, 10:12:23 AM
Auto or 4 Spd.?
Title: Re: Shifter Difference between GT350 and GT500
Post by: texas swede on October 09, 2023, 12:41:23 PM
4-speed.
Texas Swede
Title: Re: Shifter Difference between GT350 and GT500
Post by: Kent on October 09, 2023, 02:37:50 PM
can you please explain it more correct what you mean? Do you mean the handle? This is the same on the 350 and 500. The shifter assembly is different and easy to find out I will post you pictures how to find out which ones are small block and FE. The rods from what I know so far are the same except for the reverse.
Title: Re: Shifter Difference between GT350 and GT500
Post by: 430dragpack on October 09, 2023, 03:55:41 PM
The '67 big block reverse rod is different than the small block because the reverse lever in the shifter for a big block is different.  C7ZZ-7B112-A is the big block reverse rod and is ~15-1/2" long.  The other two rods for the big block shifter are the same as the small block shifter and the same as '65-'66 V8 Mustang. The 3/4 gear rod is ~18-1/4", the 1/2 gear rod is ~14".
Title: Re: Shifter Difference between GT350 and GT500
Post by: tesgt350 on October 09, 2023, 04:16:18 PM
Why would any of it be different between the two Cars, don't they use the same Top Loader or does the Small Block use the Small Spline Trans and the Big Block use the Big Spline Trans?It that is the Case, is the Reverse Lever in a different location on the Big Spline Trans than it is on the Small Block Trans?
Title: Re: Shifter Difference between GT350 and GT500
Post by: 430dragpack on October 09, 2023, 04:26:05 PM
Quote from: tesgt350 on October 09, 2023, 04:16:18 PM
Why would any of it be different between the two Cars, don't they use the same Top Loader or does the Small Block use the Small Spline Trans and the Big Block use the Big Spline Trans?It that is the Case, is the Reverse Lever in a different location on the Big Spline Trans than it is on the Small Block Trans?

Small block and 390 are small input spline, 428 is big spline. Transmissions are different between the three engines.  But input shaft size has nothing to do with shifter.  The tail housings are different between the small block vs. big block and also how/where the transmission sets in the car is a little different, that's why the big block uses a shifter adapter plate also and the small block doesn't.
Title: Re: Shifter Difference between GT350 and GT500
Post by: 430dragpack on October 09, 2023, 04:37:36 PM
This is a big block shifter with the angled reverse lever.  A small block will have all three levers line up with each other when the alignment pin is installed in the shifter.
Title: Re: Shifter Difference between GT350 and GT500
Post by: azdriver on October 09, 2023, 06:37:57 PM
Have been told the two mounting holes toward the front of the shifter is a 68/up thing? Needed to line up with the adapter plate hole....


Pat
Title: Re: Shifter Difference between GT350 and GT500
Post by: texas swede on October 09, 2023, 11:04:15 PM
Kent, I mean the shifter assembly and rods, not the lever.
Thank you all for your answers and picture.
Texas Swede

Title: Re: Shifter Difference between GT350 and GT500
Post by: 430dragpack on October 10, 2023, 08:15:17 AM
Quote from: azdriver on October 09, 2023, 06:37:57 PM
Have been told the two mounting holes toward the front of the shifter is a 68/up thing? Needed to line up with the adapter plate hole....


Pat

The '67 shifters have two mounting holes also.  This is off of car #591.
Title: Re: Shifter Difference between GT350 and GT500
Post by: gt350bp on October 12, 2023, 08:07:46 PM
Just restored my 68 KR shifter and attached are photos of a small block and big block shifter and rods. Big block reverse shift rod is bent slightly different and has a bevel on the end for clearance. The slot in the shift rod for adjustment is slightly longer as the shifter reverse arm is bent vs. the small block is straight.

Don
gt350bp