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Title: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: anghelrestorations on July 27, 2023, 08:26:59 PM
I have heard rumors but have not seen any pictures or center console lids that look any different than what I have here.  Curious if anyone has seen the console stamping slightly different on an original.  This is what I consider correct originals:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53075455152_895ccdf515_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oS6zGm)20230727_171235 (https://flic.kr/p/2oS6zGm) by Marcus Anghel (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154714213@N02/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53076228369_9fb15ff465_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oSaxxF)20230727_170916 (https://flic.kr/p/2oSaxxF) by Marcus Anghel (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154714213@N02/), on Flickr

Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: tesgt350 on July 28, 2023, 07:20:36 AM
The Black looks more Grainy but that could be because the Parchment one is worn.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: Coralsnake on July 28, 2023, 08:49:45 AM
Marcus, working on getting you some photos.

I did find a car that has a little more definition, but that looks the same.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: Lincoln tech on July 28, 2023, 08:54:49 AM
One I have
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: Coralsnake on July 28, 2023, 01:36:26 PM
I believe original

(https://www.saac.com/forum/gallery/8-140218120705.jpeg)
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: Side-Oilers on July 28, 2023, 11:59:49 PM
I think I see differences in the three concentric "rings" around the snake in two of these.

Appears to show "high-low-high" on one and "low-high-low" on the other (embossed/debossed, looking from the outside ring toward the two inner rings.)

Or it might just be my screen and/or the angles of the photos.

What's the correct design? 
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: anghelrestorations on July 29, 2023, 01:37:01 AM
It looks to me like these are all the same - especially the rings around the outer edges...unless someone sees something I am missing.  Its hard to compare photos because a slight change in angle makes it look different. 
The first two photos I posted are definitely originals. 
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: J_Speegle on July 29, 2023, 04:21:39 AM
Quote from: anghelrestorations on July 29, 2023, 01:37:01 AM
It looks to me like these are all the same - especially the rings around the outer edges...unless someone sees something I am missing.  Its hard to compare photos because a slight change in angle makes it look different. 
The first two photos I posted are definitely originals.

In the two pictures you posted there appears to be differences but are they or is this just a poor picture, angle or contrast?

(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/18/6-290723042211-189631121.jpeg)
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: Coralsnake on July 29, 2023, 09:02:05 AM
Winning! What do think about this one???

Original from car #101 (Pre-production part)

(https://www.saac.com/forum/gallery/8-290723090106.jpeg)
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: jguyer on July 29, 2023, 11:38:28 AM
How about this one from KR convertible #4201


(https://www.saac.com/forum/gallery/187-290723113529.jpeg)
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: gt350shelb on July 29, 2023, 01:31:54 PM
(https://www.saac.com/forum/gallery/122-290723132905.jpeg)

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Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: anghelrestorations on July 29, 2023, 01:38:18 PM

Ok I do see differences now...especially in the photo that Pete posted here and Jeff points out in his.  I will have to take a closer look at what I have when I return back from Oregon.  Seems some differences can be from wear over the years and other differences are just from day 1 the way they were made.

My dilemma here is looking at reproducing a stamp to make these - but wanting to do it as accurate as possible and just doing one variation. 
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: Coralsnake on July 29, 2023, 02:56:01 PM
The second one I posted is definitely an odd ball
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: Bob Gaines on July 29, 2023, 03:26:38 PM
Quote from: anghelrestorations on July 29, 2023, 01:38:18 PM

Ok I do see differences now...especially in the photo that Pete posted here and Jeff points out in his.  I will have to take a closer look at what I have when I return back from Oregon.  Seems some differences can be from wear over the years and other differences are just from day 1 the way they were made.

My dilemma here is looking at reproducing a stamp to make these - but wanting to do it as accurate as possible and just doing one variation.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53075455152_895ccdf515_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oS6zGm)20230727_171235 (https://flic.kr/p/2oS6zGm) by Marcus Anghel (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154714213@N02/), on Flickr  The first black one you posted is the odd ball IMO. Keep in mind that there have been reproductions of the lid from back in the early 80s or more. J. Yergovich sold Branda his tooling for the snake vinyl for their first version back then .
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: pied viper 041 on July 29, 2023, 05:57:39 PM
Good call Pete the first one you posted looks just like mine I have had it in my Shelby since July 1969 I just had a good look at it looks just like the one you posted.      James
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: ridgeter on May 20, 2024, 08:32:09 PM
I know this is an old post but would be helpful to see a pic of the underside of console lid that screws to the console plate. Is the vinyl stapled or glued on?I'm having my lid cover restored, so I bought a reproduction from Branda in the interim and seems like it's missing padding material.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: shelbymann1970 on May 21, 2024, 07:11:59 AM
Quote from: ridgeter on May 20, 2024, 08:32:09 PMI know this is an old post but would be helpful to see a pic of the underside of console lid that screws to the console plate. Is the vinyl stapled or glued on?I'm having my lid cover restored, so I bought a reproduction from Branda in the interim and seems like it's missing padding material.
If you wait a few days I'll have an original untouched console from a late Jan car I can see.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: ridgeter on May 21, 2024, 12:29:42 PM
Yes, thank you.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: Coralsnake on May 21, 2024, 02:38:12 PM
It should be just the way yours was when you bought the car.

 :D

The vinyl cover is stretched over the pad, glued to the inner metal and a finish plate is screwed over that.

Your console lid was fine, why mess with it? Take it off and get out your needle and thread to replace the old threads


Everytime you take original parts off you are loosing history and value

Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: ridgeter on May 21, 2024, 03:44:09 PM
I agree with you. Original cover has a bad repair and split on both sides so I plan to take it off and repair/reinforce from the back, if that is possible. The plate on the bottom has the signature so I am trying to figure what I will encounter if I unscrew the plate. Yikes.

The Branda repro is very thin. See below. 
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: Coralsnake on May 21, 2024, 05:27:05 PM
You will the original flaps glued to another metal base
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: shelbymann1970 on May 24, 2024, 08:12:17 AM
Quote from: ridgeter on May 21, 2024, 12:29:42 PMYes, thank you.
Here you go.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: ridgeter on May 25, 2024, 09:12:32 PM
Many thanks.  I appreciate it.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: Steve Meltzer on May 30, 2024, 06:21:03 PM
Does anyone make an attractive, yet protective, cover for that console pad? I find that I often rest my right forearm there, and would like to preserve and protect that imprint when driving. Any suggestions? Thank you, Steve.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: Bob Gaines on May 30, 2024, 08:38:24 PM
Quote from: Steve Meltzer on May 30, 2024, 06:21:03 PMDoes anyone make an attractive, yet protective, cover for that console pad? I find that I often rest my right forearm there, and would like to preserve and protect that imprint when driving. Any suggestions? Thank you, Steve.
I am not aware of a protective cover made especially for the console lid . If you use the lid for a arm rest I would suggest at least a microfiber towel to protect the lid from the oils of your skin having a adverse effect on the vinyl.
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: TOBKOB on May 30, 2024, 10:15:33 PM
[quoteDoes anyone make an attractive, yet protective, cover for that console pad? I find that I often rest my right forearm there, and would like to preserve and protect that imprint when driving. Any suggestions?][/quote]

I have kept a couple of towels in my cars for decades. I have been able to find ones that match the interior color and one stays on my console lid for the same reason as you say. I have towels in my Shelby, Wife's Lincoln, two Superdutys, Silverado, and all my Model A's. They help protect the lid and have come in handy after getting caught in a downpour several times.

TOB
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: Steve Meltzer on May 30, 2024, 11:36:49 PM
I started out using a nice microfiber towel, but I became a bit frustrated because it wanted to slide all over the place. Now, I'm using a very thin piece of rubber that I cut to fit, but it too, wants to slide around. At least it's better than nothing. If my wife were a "balabusta" (Yidddish for a complete homemaker, and often the ruling matriarch) I would have her make something with an elastic edging to tightly grip the console cover. Oh well, she's not.steve
Title: Re: 1968 Shelby center console lid
Post by: ridgeter on June 15, 2024, 01:00:52 PM
They make universal console covers that are washable.
I haven't measured but this may fit.

https://www.amazon.com/Timorn-Car-Center-Console-Cover/dp/B08V4PKZF3?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A24D65FD49T33Y