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Title: Adding zinc to a 66 G.T. 350H
Post by: deathsled on July 01, 2023, 12:08:05 AM
I follow through on good advice.  Here it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZyZUfRvsN4
Title: Re: Adding zinc to a 66 G.T. 350H
Post by: trotrof1 on July 01, 2023, 09:50:51 AM
Some information I have read /viewed suggested that an additive didn't work as well as an oil with an integral chemical package. Maybe this could be a battle for market share I can't be certain. I just use Brad Penn oil and it makes life easier, my cars are happy.
Title: Re: Adding zinc to a 66 G.T. 350H
Post by: FL SAAC on July 01, 2023, 10:08:59 AM
Mobil 1 15 50

The End !
Title: Re: Adding zinc to a 66 G.T. 350H
Post by: trotrof1 on July 01, 2023, 10:42:41 AM
There are several similar products as Mobile 1. What I am comparing to is that product group to stand alone additive that may not be as effective. Chemical content levels and price per unit is a different subject.
Title: Re: Adding zinc to a 66 G.T. 350H
Post by: FL SAAC on July 01, 2023, 12:04:14 PM
Quote from: trotrof1 on July 01, 2023, 10:42:41 AM
There are several similar products as Mobile 1. What I am comparing to is that product group to stand alone additive that may not be as effective. Chemical content levels and price per unit is a different subject.

Similar but not a like :

My pronouns are # not a chemist, # voodoo, # do not put crap into your motor, # witch craft, # hokus pocus, # BS a la king in my motor
# just use Mobil 1 15-50 and forgetaboutit

More than 40 years ago, Mobil 1™ motor oil was introduced, making it the first globally available full synthetic automotive motor oil. 

Synthetic motor oil brand – Mobil 1™ history | Mobil™
https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants/about-us/mobil-1/one-great-oil-one-great-story#:~:text=One%20great%20story.,full%20synthetic%20automotive%20motor%20oil.
Title: Re: Adding zinc to a 66 G.T. 350H
Post by: trotrof1 on July 01, 2023, 12:51:09 PM
Just to summarize, Tony is a devout promoter of Chevrolet and Mobile 1. When he discloses his favorite prophylactic then we will have a trifecta trash file. Here it comes, watch for it.
Title: Re: Adding zinc to a 66 G.T. 350H
Post by: deathsled on July 01, 2023, 01:29:46 PM
Serious question here. Why would synthetic motor oil need zinc as an additive? Doesn't the fact it is full synthetic by its very nature prevent wearing of camshaft and related parts? Even so I still think I did something positive by adding said zinc so it may then serve as a placebo effect if nothing else.
Title: Re: Adding zinc to a 66 G.T. 350H
Post by: trotrof1 on July 01, 2023, 01:56:29 PM
Depends on the application. Flat tappet camshafts need it for lobe to lifter contact. Modern roller lifter/ rocker arm cams not so much. Apparently, the zinc and manganese in the oil was shortening catalyst life in newer cars. Synthetic or not in your case best to have it.
Title: Re: Adding zinc to a 66 G.T. 350H
Post by: deathsled on July 01, 2023, 02:42:02 PM
Quote from: trotrof1 on July 01, 2023, 01:56:29 PM
Depends on the application. Flat tappet camshafts need it for lobe to lifter contact. Modern roller lifter/ rocker arm cams not so much. Apparently, the zinc and manganese in the oil was shortening catalyst life in newer cars. Synthetic or not in your case best to have it.
I will look into Brad Penn oil and yes, Mobil for the next "olio" change.
Title: Re: Adding zinc to a 66 G.T. 350H
Post by: acapulco350 on July 02, 2023, 07:51:12 AM
you are a natural in front of the camera

your talents are wasted as a lawyer

maybe the lead role in the next gladiator movie ?

Title: Re: Adding zinc to a 66 G.T. 350H
Post by: shelbyhertz66 on July 02, 2023, 10:54:13 AM
My engine builders shop builds many hi performance race engines
and he recommends Maxima high performance 10-40 for flat tappet motors it has a high zinc content as well
it's what I use .  I am sure  Brad Penn ( I think now Penngrade)  is good also and
that is what he previously recommended.
Title: Re: Adding zinc to a 66 G.T. 350H
Post by: deathsled on July 02, 2023, 11:01:00 AM
Quote from: acapulco350 on July 02, 2023, 07:51:12 AM
you are a natural in front of the camera

your talents are wasted as a lawyer

maybe the lead role in the next gladiator movie ?
No talent in front of a camera here. Or behind one either. Moves are awkward. Clumsy at times and physical looks that faded 40 years ago. It's all about the red beauty in front of the camera. That's the thing about old cars. They have the potential to look the same as the day we first saw and drove them unlike our mortal selves. And if they are in rough shape they clean up well.
As for a gladiator role more like the introverted last minute stand-in Roman philosopher spotted for 24 frames and then is gone from view. That's more like it. Well my father tells me that Pannavision isn't using film anymore and that the cameras are all digital. I don't know how frame rates are counted or if they are indeed counted at all anymore. Was 24 frames per second I think.
Title: Re: Adding zinc to a 66 G.T. 350H
Post by: deathsled on July 02, 2023, 04:05:02 PM
Quote from: acapulco350 on July 02, 2023, 07:51:12 AM
you are a natural in front of the camera

your talents are wasted as a lawyer

maybe the lead role in the next gladiator movie ?
As a further addendum, the video was about adding zinc to an engine, not the sort of zinc that might be exchanged in your suggested "gladiator" movie. Not headed that way.
Title: Re: Adding zinc to a 66 G.T. 350H
Post by: Royce Peterson on July 02, 2023, 10:44:53 PM
Valvoline VR-1 available at every Wal Mart and most any part store nationwide:
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https://www.valvolineglobal.com/es-us/vr1-racing-oil/ (https://www.valvolineglobal.com/es-us/vr1-racing-oil/)
Title: Re: Adding zinc to a 66 G.T. 350H
Post by: Harris Speedster on July 03, 2023, 10:04:10 AM
I just fired a brand new factory supercharged engine in a baby bird last week.
Builder recomended that I buy a bottle of;
LUCAS TB-ZINC-PLUS for the initial break in run.
It actually says engine break in additive for race engines on the bottle.
John
Title: Re: Adding zinc to a 66 G.T. 350H
Post by: FL SAAC on July 03, 2023, 10:54:24 AM
What happened to Brad Penn oil ?

Who makes Amsoil ?

Best oil ?
Title: Re: Adding zinc to a 66 G.T. 350H
Post by: FL SAAC on July 03, 2023, 10:58:21 AM
Quote from: trotrof1 on July 01, 2023, 12:51:09 PM
Just to summarize, Tony is a devout promoter of Chevrolet and Mobile 1. When he discloses his favorite prophylactic then we will have a trifecta trash file. Here it comes, watch for it.

My dear Trotorious you kinda sorta remind me of what Frank Zappa spoke about, "you know that guy that grew up boring because he listened to others, you deserve it" ..... lol !

And as for me I don't have a preference for Chevrolets and their world class two times Lemans winning sports car the refreshing C8 Stingray.

Nor do I receive royalties to endorse or promote Mobil 1 ( not as you wrote "Mobile as in Alabama" ) the best synthetic oil on the market, now being made by the ExxonMobil Corporation

I just love performance vehicles and the best synthetic oil ever made, both happen to be made by great American companies. 

Unfortunately "some oil retailers" don't extract, refine or even formulate the oil they sell.

The uniformed (sheeples) public think they are buying "BRAND ABC" and it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. 

When in reality they are buying something that Big Oil made for "BRAND ABC" .

"BRAND ABC" in turn repackage Big Oils product under their own private label "BRAND ABC" at sometimes a much higher price ( LMAO silly sheeples) than the Big Oils own product.

It's like a trick play in football, a razzle dazzle, end around or as the great Spike Lee would say "you have been bamboozled" or  "LAMONTIZED" to think you are purchasing a ( it's called marketing) much superior product in this case "BRAND ABCs OIL" at a elevated cost.

Is this a great country or what !

Today is a great day to be living in the USA , dont you think !


Title: Re: Adding zinc to a 66 G.T. 350H
Post by: FL SAAC on July 03, 2023, 11:00:33 AM
Quote from: trotrof1 on July 01, 2023, 12:51:09 PM
Just to summarize, Tony is a devout promoter of Chevrolet and Mobile 1. When he discloses his favorite prophylactic then we will have a trifecta trash file. Here it comes, watch for it.


Lastly concerning your question of "When he discloses his
favorite prophylactic".

We find that statement crude and certainly uncouth.  You certainly dont have to express that publicly, may we suggest asking your consort for that intimate information.

And as always we bid you a pleasant day!

"Here it comes, watch for it."

Title: Re: Adding zinc to a 66 G.T. 350H
Post by: trotrof1 on July 03, 2023, 05:02:54 PM
A bit slow on the retort, I was losing faith and somewhat hopeful.
Title: Re: Adding zinc to a 66 G.T. 350H
Post by: FL SAAC on July 04, 2023, 09:31:57 AM
Quote from: trotrof1 on July 03, 2023, 05:02:54 PM
A bit slow on the retort, I was losing faith and somewhat hopeful.

And then he said....."Here it comes, watch for it."

Back to the topic :

Dont be a LAMONT dont buy any additives,  buy oil made by BIG OIL that has the additive in it already

Not the fancy expensive repackaged stuff with a private label on it

Thank you
Title: Re: Adding zinc to a 66 G.T. 350H
Post by: FL SAAC on July 05, 2023, 09:37:52 AM
Quote from: deathsled on July 01, 2023, 12:08:05 AM
I follow through on good advice.  Here it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZyZUfRvsN4

It's funny that no one has mentioned the resemblance of the author / future movie star to a Paul Leonard Newman
Title: Re: Adding zinc to a 66 G.T. 350H
Post by: deathsled on July 05, 2023, 11:28:51 AM
Quote from: FL SAAC on July 05, 2023, 09:37:52 AM
Quote from: deathsled on July 01, 2023, 12:08:05 AM
I follow through on good advice.  Here it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZyZUfRvsN4

It's funny that no one has mentioned the resemblance of the author / future movie star to a Paul Leonard Newman
You are too funny. I do not have the chiseled jaw he had and I have neck fat that I hate and cannot get rid of. I could afford to lose a good 10 pounds and get more toned. Just and average guy here. My son is way better looking. He has a future. I do not.  Going to try and get him into film. Camera man,  director of photography, lighting and so on. Though woke Hollywood is a danger he is becoming aware of said danger as I educate him in increments.
He is landing here from Germany on July 12th. Here for a month I will be trapped between a 14 year old and a 95 year old. It's all good though. What can I say, I was rebuilding the German army in my younger rampage through Europe.
Title: Re: Adding zinc to a 66 G.T. 350H
Post by: cob4ra on August 01, 2023, 06:12:45 PM
I use Gibbs HR  hot rod oil with zinc https://drivenracingoil.com/c-1389462-shop-by-product-hot-rod-engine-oils.html   Then after its broken in I upgraded  to the high zinc at about 1500 ppm Amsoil synthetic Dominator. My idle changed up about 200 rpm in my 289 .
Title: Re: Adding zinc to a 66 G.T. 350H
Post by: jk66gt350 on August 01, 2023, 07:10:17 PM
Will never forget the 1st time I put Amsoil synthetic in my '72 351 Mach 1 in 1974.  Same result - idle speed increased about 200 rpm and the engine ran a little cooler according to what I saw on the temp guage.