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Title: Correct Paint for the 67/68 9" Rear End Housing
Post by: Kent on April 13, 2023, 05:44:35 AM
hello, what is the correct paint for the 9" rear end housing? I know its a satin black but what kind of paint was it? epoxy, alkyd, etc. I just try to figure it the right way. I think they were no primered before the paint. Maybe someone can help me.
Title: Re: Correct Paint for the 67/68 9" Rear End Housing
Post by: Coralsnake on April 13, 2023, 07:07:09 AM
I dont think "satin" black was used. To me that implies it has some sparkle. Ford used a  semi gloss black enamel on original housings. No primer was used.
Title: Re: Correct Paint for the 67/68 9" Rear End Housing
Post by: Bob Gaines on April 13, 2023, 10:11:13 AM
Quote from: Coralsnake on April 13, 2023, 07:07:09 AM
I dont think "satin" black was used. To me that implies it has some sparkle. Ford used a  semi gloss black enamel on original housings. No primer was used.
+1 .There was a somewhat of a range in between too shiny or too dull. The paint could vary in sheen depending on batch,humidity etc. when it was shot at the mfg.
Title: Re: Correct Paint for the 67/68 9" Rear End Housing
Post by: Kent on April 14, 2023, 02:17:22 AM
Yes translation, satin black in Germany is what you call semi gloss. So someone has an idea about what they used as paint? Epoxy, or is there an advice which brand is ok to use?
Title: Re: Correct Paint for the 67/68 9" Rear End Housing
Post by: Coralsnake on April 14, 2023, 07:04:31 AM
As stated above it was enamel.

Title: Re: Correct Paint for the 67/68 9" Rear End Housing
Post by: Kent on April 15, 2023, 01:13:14 AM
Ok so its the same style of paint like they used for the engines? So which brand is ok to use for the rear ends?
Title: Re: Correct Paint for the 67/68 9" Rear End Housing
Post by: Coralsnake on April 15, 2023, 07:49:02 AM
Sorry, I guess I dont see why the brand is important?
Title: Re: Correct Paint for the 67/68 9" Rear End Housing
Post by: shelbymann1970 on April 15, 2023, 09:46:04 AM
Quote from: Kent on April 15, 2023, 01:13:14 AM
Ok so its the same style of paint like they used for the engines? So which brand is ok to use for the rear ends?
I've used rattle  cans and I have used single stage PPG black  with a hardener and flattening agent and both held up well over time. Prep is always the key.
Title: Re: Correct Paint for the 67/68 9" Rear End Housing
Post by: Bossbill on April 15, 2023, 10:09:40 AM
Quote from: Kent on April 15, 2023, 01:13:14 AM
Ok so its the same style of paint like they used for the engines? So which brand is ok to use for the rear ends?

Are you using a spray can or a custom mix in a spray gun?
What brands are are available there?

In spray cans I've noticed that SEM semi gloss is flatter than the Rustoleum semi gloss. And even within the Rustoleum brand there are differences between Fusion and other mixes.

I shot mine in SEM semi gloss from their canned product line. It matches the gloss of their can.
Either way I thought it too flat and reshot it.

Personally I like the "look" of Rustoleum in a can for many semi gloss applications.

Note too that the high temp semi gloss  version of some brands is shinier than their regular mix.
Title: Re: Correct Paint for the 67/68 9" Rear End Housing
Post by: shelbymann1970 on April 15, 2023, 10:46:59 AM
Quote from: Bossbill on April 15, 2023, 10:09:40 AM
Quote from: Kent on April 15, 2023, 01:13:14 AM
Ok so its the same style of paint like they used for the engines? So which brand is ok to use for the rear ends?

Are you using a spray can or a custom mix in a spray gun?
What brands are are available there?

In spray cans I've noticed that SEM semi gloss is flatter than the Rustoleum semi gloss. And even within the Rustoleum brand there are differences between Fusion and other mixes.

I shot mine in SEM semi gloss from their canned product line. It matches the gloss of their can.
Either way I thought it too flat and reshot it.

Personally I like the "look" of Rustoleum in a can for many semi gloss applications.

Note too that the high temp semi gloss  version of some brands is shinier than their regular mix.
Lets see depending on how I want contrasts in parts using rattle cans  I have the Krylon "industrial" 1613 which dries REAL FAST which I like. I got 2 cases from a friend who ordered it and went to another direction on his engine bay. I have used Krylon "rust tough" semi flat, Rustoleum painter's touch in semi gloss and also satin. Mostly semi gloss. temp humidity etc and I just either like the look or use something else for the conditions.
Title: Re: Correct Paint for the 67/68 9" Rear End Housing
Post by: Kent on April 16, 2023, 01:28:11 AM
I can paint with rattle cans and also with a spray gun, I also have access to powder coating. So that's not a problem. In Germany we can buy VHT Paint and I think they have an enamel paint in satin black. Did someone tried these? How close is it to original? And is powdercoating maybe an option?
Title: Re: Correct Paint for the 67/68 9" Rear End Housing
Post by: J_Speegle on April 16, 2023, 04:05:23 AM
Quote from: Kent on April 16, 2023, 01:28:11 AM
................... How close is it to original? And is powdercoating maybe an option?

If your going for the original look then powder coating IMHO is not an option.
Title: Re: Correct Paint for the 67/68 9" Rear End Housing
Post by: shelbymann1970 on April 16, 2023, 05:38:12 AM
Quote from: Kent on April 16, 2023, 01:28:11 AM
I can paint with rattle cans and also with a spray gun, I also have access to powder coating. So that's not a problem. In Germany we can buy VHT Paint and I think they have an enamel paint in satin black. Did someone tried these? How close is it to original? And is powdercoating maybe an option?
here is the original paint on a rear axle housing.
Title: Re: Correct Paint for the 67/68 9" Rear End Housing
Post by: Royce Peterson on April 16, 2023, 09:22:55 AM
I typically have the rear end housing and backing plates bead blasted then powder coated semi gloss black.
Title: Re: Correct Paint for the 67/68 9" Rear End Housing
Post by: azdriver on April 16, 2023, 12:53:27 PM
Maybe this will help?


https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/1703-detailing-and-restoring-the-mustang-9-inch-rear-axle/

Pat
Title: Re: Correct Paint for the 67/68 9" Rear End Housing
Post by: KR500 on April 16, 2023, 03:09:18 PM
Quote from: Royce Peterson on April 16, 2023, 09:22:55 AM
I typically have the rear end housing and backing plates bead blasted then powder coated semi gloss black.
Royce
The leaf spring band clamps in the photo are installed incorrectly ( upside down ). The open end of the clamp always faces down, not up as in your photo.
Rodney
Title: Re: Correct Paint for the 67/68 9" Rear End Housing
Post by: Royce Peterson on April 16, 2023, 08:00:42 PM
You are correct I assembled those upside down.
Title: Re: Correct Paint for the 67/68 9" Rear End Housing
Post by: FL SAAC on April 17, 2023, 09:28:08 AM
Quote from: azdriver on April 16, 2023, 12:53:27 PM
Maybe this will help?


https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/1703-detailing-and-restoring-the-mustang-9-inch-rear-axle/

Pat

Excellent
Title: Re: Correct Paint for the 67/68 9" Rear End Housing
Post by: shelbydoug on April 17, 2023, 09:50:55 AM
The black is easy. What troubles me is that yellow marking.
Title: Re: Correct Paint for the 67/68 9" Rear End Housing
Post by: J_Speegle on April 17, 2023, 02:28:17 PM
Remember and consider the article is not focused or about restoring 67-78 rear ends and not those that were installed at San Jose or NJ specifically