Great car with a great story. What do you think it will bring when the hammer drops?
I saw that - will be a dream for one person... Who wouldn't LOVE to have that car in their garage? 8)
I'm sure that the hammer price will be well beyond most of us mortals :-\
Since I'm not "up" on current-day pricing... what would a "regular" Hemi Challenger be worth (not included in the Historic Vehicle Registry)?
I am surprised that the family is selling it. But that is almost always the way when you leave the planet. Your pride and joy gets sold. But maybe you continue to drive the black ghost in the afterlife, as, ahem, a ghost.
Quote from: deathsled on January 08, 2023, 02:36:28 PM
I am surprised that the family is selling it. But that is almost always the way when you leave the planet. Your pride and joy gets sold. But maybe you continue to drive the black ghost in the afterlife, as, ahem, a ghost.
Lots of times to settle an estate things need to be sold. If there isn't enough to divide it up evenly and one of the heirs doesn't have the cash to add to the pot it gets sold. Shelby's original Cobra is a prime example.
Nice rig.
I've seen this car twice at recent MCACN shows recently. I don't think its value is beyond $300,000, IE; Boss 429 category.
It has a great story, and family sentimental value.
I'm sure if any former owners of B9's would fess up, there are also way-out-there stories about those cars too.
(and please take those stories to another thread)
I saw this beauty in MCACN 2022 , and i guess it 'will fetch 1 million , because it's all original paint ,motor ,trans, gator top ,interior, documentation,history ,one owner ect ... not possible to find the same car nowhere on the planet , i guess it could finish in the Brother collection...
the last "original" hemi challenger sold for 500 K , and it was far away from this car in condition,originality etc... but a nice black 4 speeds just pop up for sale on hemmings at 244K claim to have 17000 miles only. we'll see ... i wish i could afford another car now...
over $750 k
maybe a tad more than I originally guesstimated.....
Quote from: FL SAAC on January 09, 2023, 02:05:54 PM
over $750 k
Quote from: daltondavid on January 07, 2023, 03:16:38 PM
Great car with a great story. What do you think it will bring when the hammer drops?
Being local I've seen that car up close a few times . Not mint but is a nice original and a really cool car and story . Being a National Historic vehicle is pretty heady. A Detroit cop who used to go out and street race.
not to take away from the ghost, but this 70 Poncho just sold for one million dollars plus fees
Quote from: FL SAAC on January 13, 2023, 03:22:51 PM
not to take away from the ghost, but this 70 Poncho just sold for one million dollars plus fees
I'm sure one of our members here will be real happy as he has one of the 8 RA IV 4 speed cars made. He has it in Boyton Beach.
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on January 13, 2023, 03:36:00 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC on January 13, 2023, 03:22:51 PM
not to take away from the ghost, but this 70 Poncho just sold for one million dollars plus fees
I'm sure one of our members here will be real happy as he has one of the 8 RA IV 4 speed cars made. He has it in Boyton Beach.
+ 1. he should go after this one also
can't wait until the May 12-20 auction to see the dollars drop on the Ghost
Quote from: FL SAAC on January 13, 2023, 06:30:26 PM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on January 13, 2023, 03:36:00 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC on January 13, 2023, 03:22:51 PM
not to take away from the ghost, but this 70 Poncho just sold for one million dollars plus fees
I'm sure one of our members here will be real happy as he has one of the 8 RA IV 4 speed cars made. He has it in Boyton Beach.
+ 1. he should go after this one also
I saw the orbit orange car sell for 1 mil. It was an auto. My friend's car is a 4 speed. So I wonder what is the added value of a 4 speed? Red/red interior/ white top and restored right by the best. I wonder if he will chime in? He already owns a 7 figure Shelby(67 vert).
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on January 14, 2023, 07:26:38 AM
Quote from: FL SAAC on January 13, 2023, 06:30:26 PM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on January 13, 2023, 03:36:00 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC on January 13, 2023, 03:22:51 PM
not to take away from the ghost, but this 70 Poncho just sold for one million dollars plus fees
I'm sure one of our members here will be real happy as he has one of the 8 RA IV 4 speed cars made. He has it in Boyton Beach.
+ 1. he should go after this one also
I saw the orbit orange car sell for 1 mil. It was an auto. My friend's car is a 4 speed. So I wonder what is the added value of a 4 speed? Red/red interior/ white top and restored right by the best. I wonder if he will chime in? He already owns a 7 figure Shelby(67 vert).
agreed 4 speed should pull more, but it's not for sale
also "silence is golden" is his motto.....
I'd take the money and run, on anything close to $1mil for a GTO. (Or even $500k.) Yeah, cool and rare and so on. But, I'd prefer a real 289 Cobra for my million or so. ;D
As for the Black Ghost...cool story and a significant car. But, I'm guessing $760k hammer price.
Quote from: Side-Oilers on January 18, 2023, 04:43:37 PM
I'd take the money and run, on anything close to $1mil for a GTO. (Or even $500k.) Yeah, cool and rare and so on. But, I'd prefer a real 289 Cobra for my million or so. ;D
As for the Black Ghost...cool story and a significant car. But, I'm guessing $760k hammer price.
B. G. if will certainly be interesting once it comes up on the blocks
show me the money
Any underhood pix of the Black Ghost? How modified was it it, back in its heyday?
I had the pleasure of parking next to the Black Ghost at Amelia Cars and Coffee 2022
Quote from: SCJSTU on February 03, 2023, 10:36:24 PM
I had the pleasure of parking next to the Black Ghost at Amelia Cars and Coffee 2022
You notice the MKII Lincoln is getting the attention. It was Americas most expensive car at the time. I want one......yep still a day 2 guy.
Nice pics Stu. The car is making the rounds.
get ready for the final act May 12-20, 2023 at Indy
Having owned 1 of the 23 RT/SE 4-speed pistol grip hemi challengers i can tell u how unique the SPECIAL EDition 1970 dodge challengers are as they were only offered in the new first and only year SE 1970 challengers and they are a unique number code in the serial number so they cant be faked. They have a unique top with smaller rear window in the formal roof and a overhead console with a unique padded headliner and rally dash with tach and floor console with deluxe seats either leather or houndstooth and deluxe door panels with carpet along the bottom and special SE emblems inside and outside with the extra chrome trim etc. My car was hemi orange but i had to sell it as part of my devorice settlement for like 26.000 back in 92!! I since then have owned 3 RT/SE 440 six pack 4 speeds challengers . The black ghost is very special besides being a black RT/SE it has the houndstooth white black interior and rimblo wheel white RT tail stripe gator grain top front bumper guards etc. and a GREAT story so look for it to bring big bucks close to Steve Julianos 1970 orange hemi only sunroof challanger restored with original parts only and it has my set of no-size original nos f-60-15 polyglas gt tires .
Quote from: Special Ed on February 04, 2023, 02:13:39 PM
Having owned 1 of the 23 RT/SE 4-speed pistol grip hemi challengers i can tell u how unique the SPECIAL EDition 1970 dodge challengers are as they were only offered in the new first and only year SE 1970 challengers and they are a unique number code in the serial number so they cant be faked. They have a unique top with smaller rear window in the formal roof and a overhead console with a unique padded headliner and rally dash with tach and floor console with deluxe seats either leather or houndstooth and deluxe door panels with carpet along the bottom and special SE emblems inside and outside with the extra chrome trim etc. My car was hemi orange but i had to sell it as part of my devorice settlement for like 26.000 back in 92!! I since then have owned 3 RT/SE 440 six pack 4 speeds challengers . The black ghost is very special besides being a black RT/SE it has the houndstooth white black interior and rimblo wheel white RT tail stripe gator grain top front bumper guards etc. and a GREAT story so look for it to bring big bucks close to Steve Julianos 1970 orange hemi only sunroof challanger restored with original parts only and it has my set of no-size original nos f-60-15 polyglas gt tires .
Ed I owned a 1971 RT SE 440 six pack plum crazy Challenger. Overhead console but IIRC the back window wasn't smaller but had the vinyl roof.
Hemi are great, but I really enjoy a well set-up 440. Lots of torque and still revs out pretty well.
I've owned:
'67 Plymouth GTX, all stock, 440/375hp, automatic. All orig.
'70 Challenger R/T, triple-black, 440/375hp 4-speed. Nut & Bolt Resto.
'70 Charger R/T 440/375 hp, automatic. That was a 95 point concours car. Three build sheets. All orig.
And a '70 Chrysler 300 Hurst, 440/375 hp, automatic. Rare luxo-beast.
I dig Mopars from the '60s to very early '70s.
I too have had several Mopars.... I dig 70 muscle cars
Currently have a triple black 70 Challenger convertible R/T 4 speed 3.91 sure grip
Color change from green but real R/T
Only made I think 174 verts
Gary the SE challenger was only 1 year 1970 the first year challenger built so your car may have had some similar SE option but not a real SE as its coded in the serial number in 1970 only. I had many mopars back in the 70s GTX Chargers cudas callengers GTS buick grand sports. lemans 409 chevys corvettes cougars etc as i liked all muscle cars but i kept some of the fords i owned the longest mainly mustang fastback gt of all years and mach 1s boss shelbys torinos cj verts 68 69 70 71 and even some coupes for a short time.
Quote from: Special Ed on February 05, 2023, 12:14:55 AM
Gary the SE challenger was only 1 year 1970 the first year challenger built so your car may have had some similar SE option but not a real SE as its coded in the serial number in 1970 only. I had many mopars back in the 70s GTX Chargers cudas callengers GTS buick grand sports. lemans 409 chevys corvettes cougars etc as i liked all muscle cars but i kept some of the fords i owned the longest mainly mustang fastback gt of all years and mach 1s boss shelbys torinos cj verts 68 69 70 71 and even some coupes for a short time.
So to be clear Ed you said you owned a RT/SE 1970 Challenger. It was coded as an RT/SE JS29. So if I had a 1971 RT/SE Challenger coded as an RT(R/T factory stripes) even if it had the SE badging and options on it it isn't a SE as well as an RT? So the car in the link below looked exactly like mine except a 4 speed and of course I don't remember in 1980 how my car was vinned other than the V calling it a 440-6 pack. So your car would have been a JS29 for SE but in 71 and they used JH23 or JS23 for SE(same as hardtop) while the 1971 ordering guide called it out as "JL21" which is confusing. Either way a RT/SE badged 1971 Challenger is pretty rare.
Marcus Angel open house last week .
Probably the coolest car there.
Hemi Challener conv. 4spd car .
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Very RARE only 9 made and only in 1970 could u get a hemi challenger convertible. There were more than 1 plum crazy purple hemi challenger verts made. The Blake family have had a purple hemi challenger vert along with 2 1970 hemi cuda verts and the highest optioned 1971 hemi cuda vert and they live in the arizona and that is where i bought my orange 70 hemi challenger RT/SE from there collection of RARE mopars they been collecting back in the late 70s . Gary u could get a vinyl top on a 71 challenger but NOT a small rear window formal roof vinyl top as that was 1970 only Special Edition option coded in the serial # challenger and i still have 2 RT/SE 440 sixpack 4 speed (132) made challengers here purple and yellow and both have leather seats part of SE option.