https://www.onallcylinders.com/2021/07/05/build-a-better-boss-302-ford-that-is/
The article has riled a few in the comments section of the article.
I know of two "BOSS 347" motors, which use a Stroker kit from SCAT, a 302 Boss or aftermarket block, and either BOSS 351 or aftermarket Cleveland/Boss heads. The big stroke really makes things happen, the power is BIG, much farther across the power band, and still pull hard up to a 7K limited redline.
Not a stocker, so no flaming, but probably the ultimate BOSS-style build using a Windsor-style block.
Great article
From the article: "The 1982-up style one-piece rear main seal will work on a BOSS crank. Although engine builders tend to lube the seal lip, never lube the seal lip. It goes on dry. (Image/Jim Smart)" :o
Although I realize that this is not truly an in-depth comprehensive article with step-by-step instruction for either the required machine work or the proper assembly of, but I just wanted to dispute this statement so as others would not follow this recommendation.
Take my word for it, the seal is not intended to be installed or run dry! As one of the respondents said: "Good luck with that" ;)
And yes, I tried it..........once.........(after all, it's said one should try anything/everything at least once, right? ???) and experienced exactly what one would expect with rubbing going on and a lack of lubrication, functional failure; and the discomfort of having to replace the seal shorty (very shorty) after the start-up event! :( I went ahead and completed the first break-in running, just placed a drip pan under the engine as it was pouring pretty good. ::)
Scott.
They did - 351 4V Cleveland.
There are a lot of 331, 347 and even 362 in boss 302 stroker motors around.. Just go to the boss 302 website and you'll read about some if you do a search.
Roy
Quote from: TA Coupe on October 17, 2022, 07:47:50 PM
There are a lot of 331, 347 and even 362 in boss 302 stroker motors around.. Just go to the boss 302 website and you'll read about some if you do a search.
Roy
They are really outstanding combinations especially considering that externally they look original/stock.
Track guys seem to prefer the 331's over the 347's Go figure?
There are lots of combinations available.
I personally went with a 347 with AFR heads. I didn't have the heart to paint the heads but since there is a 2x4 T/A intake on it to begin with, people would be a bit suspicious initially anyway.
The thing rev's and pulls hard AND you can get at the spark plugs! Absolutely marvelous darling...marvelous!
The a/c blows nice and cold as well. ;)
Quote from: shelbydoug on October 18, 2022, 08:13:04 AM
Quote from: TA Coupe on October 17, 2022, 07:47:50 PM
There are a lot of 331, 347 and even 362 in boss 302 stroker motors around.. Just go to the boss 302 website and you'll read about some if you do a search.
Roy
They are really outstanding combinations especially considering that externally they look original/stock.
Track guys seem to prefer the 331's over the 347's Go figure?
There are lots of combinations available.
I personally went with a 347 with AFR heads. I didn't have the heart to paint the heads but since there is a 2x4 T/A intake on it to begin with, people would be a bit suspicious initially anyway.
The thing rev's and pulls hard AND you can get at the spark plugs! Absolutely marvelous darling...marvelous!
The a/c blows nice and cold as well. ;)
Doug,
Now I will ask you what you once asked me "Do you have a Factory BOSS 302 2x4 T/A intake manifold? I've been compiling a registry of who owns those intakes and your name is not on it. If you have one and have had it for more than 3 years then that moves the number of known intake manifolds from 10 to 11.
Quote from: JohnSlack on October 21, 2022, 01:45:22 AM
Quote from: shelbydoug on October 18, 2022, 08:13:04 AM
Quote from: TA Coupe on October 17, 2022, 07:47:50 PM
There are a lot of 331, 347 and even 362 in boss 302 stroker motors around.. Just go to the boss 302 website and you'll read about some if you do a search.
Roy
They are really outstanding combinations especially considering that externally they look original/stock.
Track guys seem to prefer the 331's over the 347's Go figure?
There are lots of combinations available.
I personally went with a 347 with AFR heads. I didn't have the heart to paint the heads but since there is a 2x4 T/A intake on it to begin with, people would be a bit suspicious initially anyway.
The thing rev's and pulls hard AND you can get at the spark plugs! Absolutely marvelous darling...marvelous!
The a/c blows nice and cold as well. ;)
Doug,
Now I will ask you what you once asked me "Do you have a Factory BOSS 302 2x4 T/A intake manifold? I've been compiling a registry of who owns those intakes and your name is not on it. If you have one and have had it for more than 3 years then that moves the number of known intake manifolds from 10 to 11.
No, not a Boss 302, a C60A 289 intake. First I've heard of a registry for them.
It came from a "friend of Randy". NOS old stock. Not a numbered version off of an SA car.
Sorry...I can't get the picture to load right.
Quote from: shelbydoug on October 21, 2022, 08:22:47 AM
Quote from: JohnSlack on October 21, 2022, 01:45:22 AM
Quote from: shelbydoug on October 18, 2022, 08:13:04 AM
Quote from: TA Coupe on October 17, 2022, 07:47:50 PM
There are a lot of 331, 347 and even 362 in boss 302 stroker motors around.. Just go to the boss 302 website and you'll read about some if you do a search.
Roy
They are really outstanding combinations especially considering that externally they look original/stock.
Track guys seem to prefer the 331's over the 347's Go figure?
There are lots of combinations available.
I personally went with a 347 with AFR heads. I didn't have the heart to paint the heads but since there is a 2x4 T/A intake on it to begin with, people would be a bit suspicious initially anyway.
The thing rev's and pulls hard AND you can get at the spark plugs! Absolutely marvelous darling...marvelous!
The a/c blows nice and cold as well. ;)
Doug,
Now I will ask you what you once asked me "Do you have a Factory BOSS 302 2x4 T/A intake manifold? I've been compiling a registry of who owns those intakes and your name is not on it. If you have one and have had it for more than 3 years then that moves the number of known intake manifolds from 10 to 11.
No, not a Boss 302, a C60A 289 intake. First I've heard of a registry for them.
It came from a "friend of Randy". NOS old stock. Not a numbered version off of an SA car.
Sorry...I can't get the picture to load right.
Doug,
Wow, nice intake to have... It's not hard to believe that you never heard of the 2x4 BOSS std. Flange Holley T/A intake manifold registry, we can only locate 10 of them.
John
Hey John, the C60A is what I have on my Mustang and I have another one out in the Mancave. Upper left the last picture.
Roy
Quote from: JohnSlack on October 21, 2022, 01:24:21 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on October 21, 2022, 08:22:47 AM
Quote from: JohnSlack on October 21, 2022, 01:45:22 AM
Quote from: shelbydoug on October 18, 2022, 08:13:04 AM
Quote from: TA Coupe on October 17, 2022, 07:47:50 PM
There are a lot of 331, 347 and even 362 in boss 302 stroker motors around.. Just go to the boss 302 website and you'll read about some if you do a search.
Roy
They are really outstanding combinations especially considering that externally they look original/stock.
Track guys seem to prefer the 331's over the 347's Go figure?
There are lots of combinations available.
I personally went with a 347 with AFR heads. I didn't have the heart to paint the heads but since there is a 2x4 T/A intake on it to begin with, people would be a bit suspicious initially anyway.
The thing rev's and pulls hard AND you can get at the spark plugs! Absolutely marvelous darling...marvelous!
The a/c blows nice and cold as well. ;)
Doug,
Now I will ask you what you once asked me "Do you have a Factory BOSS 302 2x4 T/A intake manifold? I've been compiling a registry of who owns those intakes and your name is not on it. If you have one and have had it for more than 3 years then that moves the number of known intake manifolds from 10 to 11.
No, not a Boss 302, a C60A 289 intake. First I've heard of a registry for them.
It came from a "friend of Randy". NOS old stock. Not a numbered version off of an SA car.
Sorry...I can't get the picture to load right.
Doug,
Wow, nice intake to have... It's not hard to believe that you never heard of the 2x4 BOSS std. Flange Holley T/A intake manifold registry, we can only locate 10 of them.
John
I remember discussing this subject with Randy. We were talking about the Dominator version, not the 2x4 std Holley version.
I was toying with the idea of seeking out the SHELBY script B2 version before I decided on heads. He didn't like it. Said it had a problem with the rear carb location. No further explanation from him.
He was remarking about his attempts to eliminate the fuel reversion on the IR manifold with the Dominators and just being satisfied to get the fuel to accumulate in a spot where it wasn't a fire hazard.
Both of the B2 versions have got to be the end of the line as far as trick Ford induction. They just didn't cross over into the Clevelands.
I can see lots of efforts invested in them. I suppose it is safe to say that the "program just ended with them"?
The Webers do the same thing as far as fuel reversion due to the cam timing pulsing and presurizing the intake manifold. That pulse is intended for a common plenum where it is preloading the next intake to open.
No where to go on IR manifolds except up and out.
I actually accidentally discovered that if you use a 5" tall stack the plume will stay in the stack. No where to put that on the B2 T/A cars.
Quote from: shelbydoug on October 21, 2022, 03:45:29 PM
I actually accidentally discovered that if you use a 5" tall stack the plume will stay in the stack. No where to put that on the B2 T/A cars.
The use of a pair of tin-snips would solve the hood closure problem! ::)
Scott.
Quote from: shelbydoug on October 21, 2022, 08:22:47 AMIt came from a "friend of Randy".
Ray? He bought a semi truck full of pieces at the Holman & Moody parts sale. I remember drooling over his hoard and cars.
I got my 70 Boss 302 from him.
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on October 21, 2022, 09:00:01 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on October 21, 2022, 08:22:47 AMIt came from a "friend of Randy".
Ray? He bought a semi truck full of pieces at the Holman & Moody parts sale. I remember drooling over his hoard and cars.
I got my 70 Boss 302 from him.
I think so, yes.
Hi John,
Don't know if I am on your list but I have an original 2 x 4 T/A Boss 302 Intake. $ 26 on top and then the assy number engraved
Thanks, Tim
100050, is yours for regular holley's or dominators? And are you selling?
Roy
2"Holes and as I was told, Dominators. It's in Gus' Book. He looked it up and told me all about it. Crazy that he has all of that info
A few of us have a 2x4 Dominator intake and offset distributor. You also need the correct carbs to make it work, do you have that also?
Roy
Quote from: TA Coupe on November 18, 2022, 09:51:02 PM
A few of us have a 2x4 Dominator intake and offset distributor. You also need the correct carbs to make it work, do you have that also?
Roy
Plus, the correct carburetors need to have the correct metering blocks.
Here is a link for a couple of discussions about the metering blocks on the BOSS302.com website. There is a link in the different threads that gets you back to more details.
John