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Title: Barrett-jackson
Post by: azdriver on July 26, 2022, 02:45:04 PM
https://journal.classiccars.com/2022/07/22/new-vin-law-driven-by-barrett-jackson-goes-into-effect-today/
Title: Re: Barrett-jackson
Post by: JohnSlack on July 26, 2022, 04:29:47 PM
So Arizona has created a localized work around of a Federal law? Hmmm. Still doesn't sound clean.



John
Title: Re: Barrett-jackson
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on July 26, 2022, 04:58:32 PM
Quote from: JohnSlack on July 26, 2022, 04:29:47 PM
So Arizona has created a localized work around of a Federal law? Hmmm. Still doesn't sound clean.

From the article: The federal law on VINs, in comparison, allows a VIN to be removed for necessary repairs to a vehicle. While not as draconian as many state laws on the subject, this still allowed some sort of exception for repairing a vehicle.

Now does the fed and new AZ law allow a VIN tag to be jacked up and a full Dynacorn repair be rolled underneath it?
This could be one of those 100% repair jobs.
Title: Re: Barrett-jackson
Post by: FL SAAC on July 26, 2022, 06:01:07 PM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on July 26, 2022, 04:58:32 PM
Quote from: JohnSlack on July 26, 2022, 04:29:47 PM
So Arizona has created a localized work around of a Federal law? Hmmm. Still doesn't sound clean.

From the article: The federal law on VINs, in comparison, allows a VIN to be removed for necessary repairs to a vehicle. While not as draconian as many state laws on the subject, this still allowed some sort of exception for repairing a vehicle.

Now does the fed and new AZ law allow a VIN tag to be jacked up and a full Dynacorn repair be rolled underneath it?
This could be one of those 100% repair jobs.

From one totaled / dilapidated vehicle to another donor vehicle 10 feet away.....shhhhhhhh !
Title: Re: Barrett-jackson
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on July 26, 2022, 06:23:36 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC on July 26, 2022, 06:01:07 PM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on July 26, 2022, 04:58:32 PM
Quote from: JohnSlack on July 26, 2022, 04:29:47 PM
So Arizona has created a localized work around of a Federal law? Hmmm. Still doesn't sound clean.

From the article: The federal law on VINs, in comparison, allows a VIN to be removed for necessary repairs to a vehicle. While not as draconian as many state laws on the subject, this still allowed some sort of exception for repairing a vehicle.

Now does the fed and new AZ law allow a VIN tag to be jacked up and a full Dynacorn repair be rolled underneath it?
This could be one of those 100% repair jobs.

From one totaled / dilapidated vehicle to another donor stolen vehicle 10 feet away.....shhhhhhhh !
Fixed it for you......
Title: Re: Barrett-jackson
Post by: fastpace on July 26, 2022, 07:10:28 PM
All this does is keep car enthusiasts from getting hassled like the case of the Corvette in Kansas listed in the article.  The original law nor the updated law really has any effect on the people swapping VINs.  In the end, it's down to a purchaser to make sure that have done sufficient homework and validation to ensure the car is what they're expecting.  If the numbers, parts, and paperwork aren't sufficient enough to a buyer to prove to them the car is what it is and worth the extra money, then they should move on to the next one.
Title: Re: Barrett-jackson
Post by: FL SAAC on July 26, 2022, 08:28:18 PM
Caveat emptor or not....

principle does not apply when the seller provides false information to the buyer, or when there is a misrepresentation of the product
Title: Re: Barrett-jackson
Post by: J_Speegle on July 26, 2022, 09:21:46 PM
Though often things are designed and enacted with good intent with specific (in this case owners looking to "repair" cars) examples in mind

It's always the unintended consequences that they don't imagine, lack experience to predict or simply ignore,  that is the down fall.
Title: Re: Barrett-jackson
Post by: GT350Lad on July 26, 2022, 11:05:04 PM
Quote from: J_Speegle on July 26, 2022, 09:21:46 PM
Though often things are designed and enacted with good intent with specific (in this case owners looking to "repair" cars) examples in mind

It's always the unintended consequences that they don't imagine, lack experience to predict or simply ignore,  that is the down fall.

Agree Geoff, it's a good intentions taken advantage of scenario by the unscrupulous