I'm in the process of researching 66 GT350 window stickers, AKA Monroney label, and so far I've identified 3 different versions used throughout 66 production based on known original stickers, basically an early, mid, and late version as shown in the image below. As you can see there is still a big gap between the early-mid versions. Thanks to everyone's help the mid-late version gap is almost gone!
Early version: so far only seen in carryover stickers
Middle version: ~6S700 - ~6S1100
Late version: ~6S1100 to the end of production
I need help filling in the gaps, if anyone with an original sticker outside these ranges can please let me know your SAI VIN and version style it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Dave
(https://www.saac.com/forum/gallery/236-060822180758.jpeg)
Hi Dave,
Very nice. When determining the VIN ranges, did you match them up with the changes we know about, like dropping the Holley 3259 carb on automatics and going to the C6ZF-F Autolite? This matches up to the start of the Mid version and carries into the late version.
Or is there overlap, like the brake booster (I am assuming MICO master cylinder.) may have come sooner than the carb change? I think this suggests a version between the early and mid version, maybe only ID'ing the booster and not the carb change. Is there a sheet that drops the booster closer to the end of production? Or SAI left the form alone, even though the booster was dropped.
Cory
6S 1138 has the late version with the blue heading.
Nice work Dave. And Cory do you have your original sticker? Great
Nice work Dave. Did check my collection and don't have anything that helps fill in the gaps.
See you have rounded the breaks out to larger numbers than your examples just to simplify things
Quote from: 6s1640 on May 15, 2022, 09:59:44 PM
Hi Dave,
Very nice. When determining the VIN ranges, did you match them up with the changes we know about, like dropping the Holley 3259 carb on automatics and going to the C6ZF-F Autolite? This matches up to the start of the Mid version and carries into the late version.
Or is there overlap, like the brake booster (I am assuming MICO master cylinder.) may have come sooner than the carb change? I think this suggests a version between the early and mid version, maybe only ID'ing the booster and not the carb change. Is there a sheet that drops the booster closer to the end of production? Or SAI left the form alone, even though the booster was dropped.
Cory
Hi Cory,
I haven't tried to match production changes with the different sticker versions but it does appear there is some correlation, at least between the early and mid versions. Interesting that the early version lists the automatic transmission option, does that mean it was used on cars after 6S252 or just that SAI was thinking ahead? Hopefully filling in the gaps will help answer that.
Quote from: trotrof1 on May 15, 2022, 10:42:31 PM
6S 1138 has the late version with the blue heading.
Super helpful info, thanks!
Quote from: J_Speegle on May 16, 2022, 12:27:06 AM
Nice work Dave. Did check my collection and don't have anything that helps fill in the gaps.
See you have rounded the breaks out to larger numbers than your examples just to simplify things
Thanks Jeff. Yes, you nailed it, my ranges are rounded out a little. Obviously we have documented the same OE stickers as examples. ;)
So Dave which one would a mid 6S mid 500 Series have ?
Not sure yet Craig. We need to fill in the gap between OE early versions from carryover examples and the mid version from cars in the early 700's.
I know its been tough (at least for me) to find originals out there. Fair number of reproductions. Most owners never cared to keep paperwork like that and then some cars never got them.
Like many details the search goes on
Dave,
This is just confirmation on your later units sheet, but I thought it would help fill out your dataset. It accompanied the car when I got it in 69. Not sure why it got so faded out, but it was (is) blue as you have detailed.
jim
Seems like the early version wouldn't necessarily be limited to carryovers. Looks like it might work ideally for early post-carryover cars.
Mark
Quote from: 6T6/7 on May 16, 2022, 03:41:43 PM
Seems like the early version wouldn't necessarily be limited to carryovers. Looks like it might work ideally for early post-carryover cars.
Mark
Or they may not have been used through the whole carry over period.
We won't know till we know :) Just have to stay objective in any of these surveys and studies
Time may provide us with enough evidence to draw a conclusion we'll see
Quote from: jamesfee on May 16, 2022, 03:11:10 PM
Dave,
This is just confirmation on your later units sheet, but I thought it would help fill out your dataset. It accompanied the car when I got it in 69. Not sure why it got so faded out, but it was (is) blue as you have detailed.
jim
Thank you Jim, the more examples we have, the better!
Quote from: J_Speegle on May 16, 2022, 04:44:07 PM
Quote from: 6T6/7 on May 16, 2022, 03:41:43 PM
Seems like the early version wouldn't necessarily be limited to carryovers. Looks like it might work ideally for early post-carryover cars.
Mark
Or they may not have been used through the whole carry over period.
We won't know till we know :) Just have to stay objective in any of these surveys and studies
Time may tell the true story
Exactly. The latest early style I have record of is a later carryover car. Makes sense that version was used after carryovers since it has the AT option listed, hopefully we can find evidence of that, or as Jeff mentioned an original middle version used with a carryover. Or....both! Wherever the lines are drawn I assume there would be some overlap?
Would be nice to have a high resolution version of this well know photo, and ideally the GT350 SAI VINs...
I would assume it's been asked, does Chuck Cantwell have input to the question?
planning the 66 model year would have considered the "seed 250 carryover chassis" and the planned release of the A/T "true" 66 chassis, so using the early form with those considerations would be logical?
the 66 planning meeting notes have any clues?
jim p
1122 has the original KVI 570 sticker...........
Was the Ford window sticker displayed along side the SA sticker?
Ray
Quote from: poboy427 on May 22, 2022, 03:07:52 PM
Was the Ford window sticker displayed along side the SA sticker?
Ray
No since it wasn't a Ford product
Hey,
cool Thread, cool Theme
a little bit nerdy stuff,
for me personal more interesting like discuss different cables or batterys
for the Shelby
i collect Invoice when i found on the www...
Windowstickers i have only 2 in my collection.
From 6 S 1090 i would assumed it is origin
(https://abload.de/img/shelby46ohe4l.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=shelby46ohe4l.jpg)
From 6 S 1882 i am not sure it is origin or a repro one
(https://abload.de/img/6s1882zbd55.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=6s1882zbd55.jpg)
looking forward for your answer
Greets from Germany
Szabo
Hi Stephan,
I agree, 6S1090 sticker looks original, 6S1882 is definitely a repop.
The info for 6S1090 considerably narrows down the gap between the middle and late versions to somewhere in the late 1000's, although I assume the lines were a little blurry due to some overlap and since cars were not necessarily built or delivered to dealers in numerical order. I updated the comparison image in my original post.
Thanks for sharing,
Dave
Always a pleasure to can give some help,
even it was only 1 Windowsticker...
Maybe it would also work with the production or shipping dates from the Window Sticker / Cars you have,
because the Cars was not produced Vin by Vin even the Window Stickers cames on the cars right befor
delieverd to the Dealers, didnt it ?
But the hole "Window Sticker" and "Invoice" Paperwork is really new to me and i have a lot to learn about it.