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Title: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings - sold
Post by: OldFordGuy on April 12, 2022, 11:22:36 PM
Talking to the owner now. He sent me undercarriage pics that look good. Probably going to end up paying full price for it because it's exactly what I've been looking for. Thoughts?

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/ford/galaxie-500/2573002.html
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings
Post by: CharlesTurner on April 13, 2022, 01:02:21 AM
Almost looks too good to be true.  The KH wheels are worth quite a bit too...
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings
Post by: 557 on April 13, 2022, 01:27:25 AM
Beautiful.Hard to believe that is original black paint.Amazingcolor combo. 8)
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings
Post by: OldFordGuy on April 13, 2022, 02:43:35 AM
Quote from: CharlesTurner on April 13, 2022, 01:02:21 AM
Almost looks too good to be true.  The KH wheels are worth quite a bit too...

Is there anything specifically I should make sure of before purchasing? A show winner just sold at Mecum for $75k so I don't think the price is off by that much but it seems fair. He's promised me "last word" on the car so as I said, that's likely to be pretty close to the full $64k.
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings
Post by: OldFordGuy on April 13, 2022, 02:46:54 AM
Quote from: 557 on April 13, 2022, 01:27:25 AM
Beautiful.Hard to believe that is original black paint.Amazingcolor combo. 8)

It might not be original paint. Very well could be though considering the low miles.
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings
Post by: 69mach351w on April 13, 2022, 07:00:56 AM
Quote from: OldFordGuy on April 13, 2022, 02:46:54 AM
Quote from: 557 on April 13, 2022, 01:27:25 AM
Beautiful.Hard to believe that is original black paint.Amazingcolor combo. 8)

It might not be original paint. Very well could be though considering the low miles.
His claim says the paint is 59 yrs old.
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings
Post by: TA Coupe on April 13, 2022, 07:07:10 AM
I went down the page and someone was asking $35,000 for just an engine 😵‍💫

          Roy
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings
Post by: FL SAAC on April 13, 2022, 07:48:33 AM
Life is short, you like it, pull the trigger

Good luck
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings
Post by: Stillakid54 on April 13, 2022, 08:23:54 AM
Very sharp. If it is exactly what you have been looking for, sounds like you have found it.
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings
Post by: Royce Peterson on April 13, 2022, 10:59:04 AM
I bet a $55K cash offer would make it yours.
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings
Post by: George Schalk on April 13, 2022, 11:51:08 AM
It may not matter to you, but it appears someone has installed non-original P/S in the car.  1963-67 Galaxie R code cars were not available from the factory with power steering unless a dealer or owner installed it.  A/C was another option not offered on R code Galaxies.  It would pay to do an in person inspection before you pull the trigger. 

Very nice looking car and if it's all there...make a deal!!   
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings
Post by: OldFordGuy on April 13, 2022, 12:15:13 PM
Appreciate your thoughts guys. Thanks.
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on April 13, 2022, 12:37:29 PM
Click - BUY IT NOW            I doubt you will find a better deal. I wouldn't bother dickering on the price.

I have been looking at a restored 66. http://427galaxieregistry.com/RD66RCodeCustom.html  I fear it's a rebody since it hasn't sold yet and the guy is being cagey on what has been replaced frame/body wise. Also the modified by/at Ford doesn't seem like something they would do.

There is a 427 Galaxie registry - http://427galaxieregistry.com/
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on April 13, 2022, 12:39:06 PM
Quote from: Royce Peterson on April 13, 2022, 10:59:04 AM
I bet a $55K cash offer would make it yours.
I bet it would result in a click and your number being blocked.
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings
Post by: s2ms on April 13, 2022, 01:06:45 PM
Looks amazing, one of my all time favorites. Go for it!
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings
Post by: 67gt500 on April 13, 2022, 04:55:29 PM
C8AE casting number on the block.. replacement block ?
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings
Post by: 430dragpack on April 13, 2022, 08:18:12 PM
Quote from: 67gt500 on April 13, 2022, 04:55:29 PM
C8AE casting number on the block.. replacement block ?

It's C3AE, but kinda does look like an "8".
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings
Post by: OldFordGuy on April 13, 2022, 08:21:47 PM
The seller and I have come to an agreement on price and will be sorting out the details. SOLD!
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings - sold
Post by: Royce Peterson on April 13, 2022, 08:25:20 PM
Glad you got it! They are not terribly fast because the car is so heavy. But great drivers, tons of torque, lots of fun.
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings - sold
Post by: OldFordGuy on April 13, 2022, 08:50:39 PM
Quote from: Royce Peterson on April 13, 2022, 08:25:20 PM
Glad you got it! They are not terribly fast because the car is so heavy. But great drivers, tons of torque, lots of fun.

Thanks. Yeah, I have a 65 Mercury Park Lane with a 428, so it should be similar but faster. I prefer stick, too.

Anybody know a good car shipper near Indianapolis?
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings
Post by: FL SAAC on April 13, 2022, 11:33:28 PM
Quote from: OldFordGuy on April 13, 2022, 08:21:47 PM
The seller and I have come to an agreement on price and will be sorting out the details. SOLD!

Congratulations now go out and drive the wheels off !

Life is real short we just don't realize it
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings - sold
Post by: 557 on April 14, 2022, 01:16:47 AM
+1!! Light ''em up!Thats what the 4sp. and 4.11s are for ;)
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings - sold
Post by: Side-Oilers on April 14, 2022, 02:53:10 AM
Really nice sled.  Great year.   Bet it'll run high 14s with 4.11s. 

I'd have fun driving it, that's for sure.
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings - sold
Post by: Royce Peterson on April 14, 2022, 05:54:46 PM
The one I used to work on and drive a lot was more like high 14's / low 15's. It was heavy. The tires were tall skinny 15's so the 4.11's are not like in a Mustang with 14 inch F series tires.


Quote from: Side-Oilers on April 14, 2022, 02:53:10 AM
Really nice sled.  Great year.   Bet it'll run high 14s with 4.11s. 

I'd have fun driving it, that's for sure.
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings - sold
Post by: Side-Oilers on April 14, 2022, 06:09:00 PM
Royce: I was pretty close, wasn't I?  High 14s.  ;D.

Funny how we think of those cars as so heavy.   Yes, they were heavy compared to a '65 Mustang, but are relatively lightweight compared to today's porkers.

I have owned many 1960s Cadillacs, and I'd often get the question "How much does that thing weigh?"  One guy with a new BMW M7 SUV (or whatever it's called) bet that my 1967 Fleetwood weighed twice what his car does. He didn't believe me when I told him his probably weighs 300-400 pounds more.  The Caddy is about 4900 pounds.  The Bimmer is about 5300.

Van
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings - sold
Post by: shelbyluva on April 15, 2022, 02:19:49 AM
Congrats on the purchase.  It's a great looking car, and while I love Shelbys, it's exciting to see something different but very cool on these pages that I frequent.  Share some pictures of the delivery and your adventures with it too!
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings - sold
Post by: Stillakid54 on April 15, 2022, 05:59:41 AM
Congratulations! Hopefully, many enjoyable driving days ahead.
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings - sold
Post by: stangman39 on April 15, 2022, 08:16:59 AM
Congrats on the purchase, exciting.

If you need a shipper, I've used a broker many times.  He is a Mustang guy and I actually sold him a Fastback a few years back.
Contact Chris if you need a quote or help with the move.
www.discountautotransport.com

You can tell him Mike in GA passed his info on.
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings - sold
Post by: OldFordGuy on April 16, 2022, 01:24:30 AM
Quote from: shelbyluva on April 15, 2022, 02:19:49 AM
Congrats on the purchase.  It's a great looking car, and while I love Shelbys, it's exciting to see something different but very cool on these pages that I frequent.  Share some pictures of the delivery and your adventures with it too!

As my name suggests I've been into Ford's a long time. My first car was a 69 Mustang and I paid $500 for it in 1985. I also had an 82 Mustang Ghia 4 banger, a 66 Galaxie 500 convertible, a couple mid 60's full sized Mercs and I currently have a F150 7700. I LOVE Shelbys and have always wanted one, but back in the day, these cars were pretty legendary too, and to a Ford purist, beyond the big Boss Mustangs the real grails are Thunderbolts and factory lightweights. I can't afford a Boss 429, I can't afford a real Shelby Cobra, I can't even afford a Shelby Mustang in the years that I like in decent shape, but I can afford this. Top 5 dream car for me for a long time.
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings - sold
Post by: OldFordGuy on April 16, 2022, 01:31:17 AM
Quote from: Side-Oilers on April 14, 2022, 06:09:00 PM
Royce: I was pretty close, wasn't I?  High 14s.  ;D.

Funny how we think of those cars as so heavy.   Yes, they were heavy compared to a '65 Mustang, but are relatively lightweight compared to today's porkers.

I have owned many 1960s Cadillacs, and I'd often get the question "How much does that thing weigh?"  One guy with a new BMW M7 SUV (or whatever it's called) bet that my 1967 Fleetwood weighed twice what his car does. He didn't believe me when I told him his probably weighs 300-400 pounds more.  The Caddy is about 4900 pounds.  The Bimmer is about 5300.

Van

Car currently has tires so wide in the back that the rear wheels are "difficult to remove". I'm going to be putting the original wheels back on it and will also be putting tires wider than what would have come on the car from the factory. Not sure that it would make that much of a difference in the 1/4 but those skinny tires just don't look right.
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings - sold
Post by: TA Coupe on April 16, 2022, 02:49:04 AM
Put on some Avon tires so you can get some kind of traction. I would highly suggest that you try to find a wider wheel that you can put hub caps on if you want a period look.

Roy
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings - sold
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on April 16, 2022, 10:51:57 AM
I'd be going for that vintage sleeper street racer look.

Vintage Casler Slicks are rarer than old GoodYears - https://www.ebay.com/itm/144063534525

This place is making vintage looking cheater slicks on new radials - https://www.towelcityracingtires.com/Vintage/Pie-Crust-Cheater-Slicks
or whitewalls - http://www.radirwheels.com/slicks.htm
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings - sold
Post by: OldFordGuy on April 16, 2022, 12:58:16 PM
Hey guys,

Just going over the details with the owner and he is not sure that the motor is matching numbers. I asked him about the casting number that looks like it might be an 8 and not a 3 and he is going to try to get a better look at it for clarification.

I'm not that concerned about the car not having the original block, but what I wouldn't want to find out later is that the block isn't a 427 block at all but actually a stroked 390 of some sort wit 427 hardware on top. Besides the casting number on the passenger side, what would you guys suggest we look for to ID the block? TIA
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings - sold
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on April 16, 2022, 01:56:45 PM
It should be a top oiler with 4 bolt mains. C3AE-6015-AB is the part number.

Here is a pic of a broken one with the HP markings  http://www.mustangtek.com/block/C3AE-6015-AB.html

list of blocks https://www.fordification.com/tech/castingnumbers-FEblock.htm

63 R Code - specific parts http://427galaxieregistry.com/1963modelyear.html

There is no C8AE with a AB listed - The C8AE-A is a 427 side oiler. The photo on the Hemmings page looks to be the right engine block. Someone could figure out from the casting date if it's right for the car. There was probably a longer time from casting to installation of these engines since so few were sold.

Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings - sold
Post by: A-Snake on April 16, 2022, 01:57:17 PM
http://427galaxieregistry.com/1963modelyear.html
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings - sold
Post by: Royce Peterson on April 16, 2022, 09:06:16 PM
That looks like a legit '63 427 to me. The '68 427 blocks in general typically don't have any casting number - none. If you see a C8AE-A block it is typically a 390, not a 427. Every now and then a '68 427 will have a C8AE or C8AE-A casting number. But it isn't a consistent or typical thing. 

It's (the block casting number) meaningless in '68, unlike the '63 HP marked blocks, where the casting mark is a real tell - tale thing.



Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on April 16, 2022, 01:56:45 PM
It should be a top oiler with 4 bolt mains. C3AE-6015-AB is the part number.

Here is a pic of a broken one with the HP markings  http://www.mustangtek.com/block/C3AE-6015-AB.html

list of blocks https://www.fordification.com/tech/castingnumbers-FEblock.htm

63 R Code - specific parts http://427galaxieregistry.com/1963modelyear.html

There is no C8AE with a AB listed - The C8AE-A is a 427 side oiler. The photo on the Hemmings page looks to be the right engine block. Someone could figure out from the casting date if it's right for the car. There was probably a longer time from casting to installation of these engines since so few were sold.
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings - sold
Post by: OldFordGuy on April 17, 2022, 02:54:58 PM
Have a clearer pic now. Definitely a 3.

Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings - sold
Post by: OldFordGuy on April 17, 2022, 08:44:01 PM
Anyone know what this is?

Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings - sold
Post by: s2ms on April 17, 2022, 09:59:24 PM
Build sheet? The 64 Galaxie 500XL I bought in high school had one like that, found it in the fender well IIRC...
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings - sold
Post by: OldFordGuy on April 17, 2022, 10:25:48 PM
Quote from: s2ms on April 17, 2022, 09:59:24 PM
Build sheet? The 64 Galaxie 500XL I bought in high school had one like that, found it in the fender well IIRC...

Don't think so. This is the build sheet. Both were found under the front seat, I believe.

Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings - sold
Post by: J_Speegle on April 17, 2022, 11:32:11 PM
Believe it may be a buildsheet for the first half of production of the car at the car assembly plant - basically the same info and purpose as what was placed on buck tags when they were used at different plants and years. The second buildsheet was used in the second half of production like the large "full page" buildsheets we see used on 67-up Ford built cars
Title: Re: 1963 1/2 Galaxie 500 R code on Hemmings - sold
Post by: OldFordGuy on April 18, 2022, 03:10:04 PM
Quote from: stangman39 on April 15, 2022, 08:16:59 AM
Congrats on the purchase, exciting.

If you need a shipper, I've used a broker many times.  He is a Mustang guy and I actually sold him a Fastback a few years back.
Contact Chris if you need a quote or help with the move.
www.discountautotransport.com

You can tell him Mike in GA passed his info on.

Going to be using your guy. Now I just need to figure out the safest way to pay the guy.