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Title: Reference Book That Every Vintage Shelby Enthusiast Can Benefit From
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 29, 2021, 01:06:58 PM
It has been talked about before but bears repeating .There are questions all the time on this forum in regards to historical facts about 65-68 289/302 engines. In a effort to help preserve the historical heritage of the Shelby Marque among other things I am glad to be help answer question for folks about engine details but this book is the bible on the subject.  Mustang & Ford Small Block V8: 1962-1969 . I can't give it enough praise for the historical detail information it contains . I have referenced it more times then I care to count and I still glean information from it frequently. This reference book along with shop manuals and assemblyline manuals should be in every enthusiasts collection that is concerned about how the cars were originally built. Also least I forget the author Bob Mannel is great guy besides being a genius IMO.
Title: Re: Reference Book That Every Vintage Shelby Enthusiast Can Benefit From
Post by: CharlesTurner on January 29, 2021, 01:10:12 PM
+1, great resource.  Believe there is also a pdf version.
Title: Re: Reference Book That Every Vintage Shelby Enthusiast Can Benefit From
Post by: Dan Case on January 29, 2021, 01:29:00 PM
Quote from: CharlesTurner on January 29, 2021, 01:10:12 PM
+1, great resource.  Believe there is also a pdf version.

Correct Charles. I bought a online subscription. The online version is much more up to date (chapters get revisions too sometimes) and for me is easier to pull up my digital copy that go get the hard copy. I use the chapter on carburetors a lot. I suggest that every Cobra owner get the hard copy as a minimum and or better yet subscribe to the online version.

A subscription to the digital files means you get access to the files online and you can download what you are interested in.
Title: Re: Reference Book That Every Vintage Shelby Enthusiast Can Benefit From
Post by: 557 on January 29, 2021, 01:44:57 PM
Anything comparable for fe motors?
Title: Re: Reference Book That Every Vintage Shelby Enthusiast Can Benefit From
Post by: Rukiddin on January 29, 2021, 01:47:02 PM
When I first got my copy I could hardly believe the information within! The amount of time it took must be amazing. I refer to it for many details. If you don't have a copy....GET ONE !
Title: Re: Reference Book That Every Vintage Shelby Enthusiast Can Benefit From
Post by: silverton_ford on January 29, 2021, 03:37:48 PM
Here is where you order a copy.  Great book.  I have one too. - https://fordsmallblock.com/ (https://fordsmallblock.com/)
Title: Re: Reference Book That Every Vintage Shelby Enthusiast Can Benefit From
Post by: Rodster-500 on January 29, 2021, 03:58:00 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on January 29, 2021, 01:06:58 PM
It has been talked about before but bears repeating .There are questions all the time on this forum in regards to historical facts about 65-68 289/302 engines. In a effort to help preserve the historical heritage of the Shelby Marque among other things I am glad to be help answer question for folks about engine details but this book is the bible on the subject.  Mustang & Ford Small Block V8: 1962-1969 . I can't give it enough praise for the historical detail information it contains . I have referenced it more times then I care to count and I still glean information from it frequently. This reference book along with shop manuals and assemblyline manuals should be in every enthusiasts collection that is concerned about how the cars were originally built. Also least I forget the author Bob Mannel is great guy besides being a genius IMO.

+1   

Even if you are not super concerned about how cars were originally built, you can learn a lot about what to look for and the differences between the same parts.  A must for a SBF owner/enthusiast.   

He continues to share his knowledge and his amazing skills on the Fairlane Club of America site. Worth a membership to follow along on his builds.  ;)

Title: Re: Reference Book That Every Vintage Shelby Enthusiast Can Benefit From
Post by: shelbymann1970 on January 29, 2021, 04:01:55 PM
Thanks Bob. I never knew a book like that existed. I got "how to rebuild your SB Ford" book(decades ago) but not a detail one like this. Gary
Title: Re: Reference Book That Every Vintage Shelby Enthusiast Can Benefit From
Post by: Corey Bowcutt on January 29, 2021, 04:10:38 PM
Quote from: silverton_ford on January 29, 2021, 03:37:48 PM
Here is where you order a copy.  Great book.  I have one too. - https://fordsmallblock.com/ (https://fordsmallblock.com/)

Thank you for listing this web site.  I first went to Amazon and it was $118.  Here it is $39 and you get both the book and the PDF.

Corey
Title: Re: Reference Book That Every Vintage Shelby Enthusiast Can Benefit From
Post by: Rodster-500 on January 29, 2021, 04:23:29 PM
Quote from: Corey Bowcutt on January 29, 2021, 04:10:38 PM
Quote from: silverton_ford on January 29, 2021, 03:37:48 PM
Here is where you order a copy.  Great book.  I have one too. - https://fordsmallblock.com/ (https://fordsmallblock.com/)

Thank you for listing this web site.  I first went to Amazon and it was $118.  Here it is $39 and you get both the book and the PDF.

Corey

The fordsmallblock site is has some good information about the book and Bob too.
Title: Re: Reference Book That Every Vintage Shelby Enthusiast Can Benefit From
Post by: FL SAAC on January 29, 2021, 04:30:49 PM
Quote from: 557 on January 29, 2021, 01:44:57 PM
Anything comparable for fe motors?

Yes I recommend "How to rebuild a boat anchor" by Captain E Hemingway....lol
Title: Re: Reference Book That Every Vintage Shelby Enthusiast Can Benefit From
Post by: FL SAAC on January 29, 2021, 04:31:24 PM
Excellent print

Quote from: Bob Gaines on January 29, 2021, 01:06:58 PM
It has been talked about before but bears repeating .There are questions all the time on this forum in regards to historical facts about 65-68 289/302 engines. In a effort to help preserve the historical heritage of the Shelby Marque among other things I am glad to be help answer question for folks about engine details but this book is the bible on the subject.  Mustang & Ford Small Block V8: 1962-1969 . I can't give it enough praise for the historical detail information it contains . I have referenced it more times then I care to count and I still glean information from it frequently. This reference book along with shop manuals and assemblyline manuals should be in every enthusiasts collection that is concerned about how the cars were originally built. Also least I forget the author Bob Mannel is great guy besides being a genius IMO.
Title: Re: Reference Book That Every Vintage Shelby Enthusiast Can Benefit From
Post by: 557 on January 29, 2021, 05:10:57 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC on January 29, 2021, 04:30:49 PM
Quote from: 557 on January 29, 2021, 01:44:57 PM
Anything comparable for fe motors?

Yes I recommend "How to rebuild a boat anchor" by Captain E Hemingway....lol
.   I would sooner ask that cat about "How to clean a shotgun".........
Title: Re: Reference Book That Every Vintage Shelby Enthusiast Can Benefit From
Post by: FL SAAC on January 29, 2021, 05:30:59 PM
Quote from: 557 on January 29, 2021, 05:10:57 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC on January 29, 2021, 04:30:49 PM
Quote from: 557 on January 29, 2021, 01:44:57 PM
Anything comparable for fe motors?

Yes I recommend "How to rebuild a boat anchor" by Captain E Hemingway....lol
.   I would sooner ask that cat about "How to clean a shotgun".........

"I drink to make other people more interesting "
Cheers !
Admiral Ernesto Von Hemingway
Title: Re: Reference Book That Every Vintage Shelby Enthusiast Can Benefit From
Post by: shelbymann1970 on January 29, 2021, 05:34:33 PM
Quote from: Corey Bowcutt on January 29, 2021, 04:10:38 PM
Quote from: silverton_ford on January 29, 2021, 03:37:48 PM
Here is where you order a copy.  Great book.  I have one too. - https://fordsmallblock.com/ (https://fordsmallblock.com/)

Thank you for listing this web site.  I first went to Amazon and it was $118.  Here it is $39 and you get both the book and the PDF.

Corey
Amazon..... I went to buy the Kar Kraft book there a few weeks ago. Got it cheaper from Summit Racing. Amazon is a crapshoot for low prices on many things. Gary
Title: Re: Reference Book That Every Vintage Shelby Enthusiast Can Benefit From
Post by: shelbymann1970 on January 29, 2021, 05:36:44 PM
Quote from: 557 on January 29, 2021, 01:44:57 PM
Anything comparable for fe motors?
There is one that was out there for "69"s  http://www.sunbunnybrown.com/detailshop/manual/
The book  is from the same author of the prior link  https://www.amazon.com/Mustang-Cobra-Engine-Reference-Manual/dp/0976747200
Title: Re: Reference Book That Every Vintage Shelby Enthusiast Can Benefit From
Post by: camp upshur on January 29, 2021, 05:48:55 PM
Bob and I were both Naval Aviators based at the same base (NAS Pt Mugu), at the same time, waaay back in another dimension, although we did not know one another at the time (he being USN, I USMC). My 65 GT-350 was my primary car on-base then.
Years later, totally unrelated, while talking shop with him on SBF Ford trivia, we bumbled onto to this and I was finally able to say: 'so you're the oddball who had that hiPo 63 Fairlane with full skirts!!).
Neat guy. He is REALLY into it.
Title: Re: Reference Book That Every Vintage Shelby Enthusiast Can Benefit From
Post by: Rodster-500 on January 29, 2021, 08:21:53 PM
Quote from: camp upshur on January 29, 2021, 05:48:55 PM
Bob and I were both Naval Aviators based at the same base (NAS Pt Mugu), at the same time, waaay back in another dimension, although we did not know one another at the time (he being USN, I USMC). My 65 GT-350 was my primary car on-base then.
Years later, totally unrelated, while talking shop with him on SBF Ford trivia, we bumbled onto to this and I was finally able to say: 'so you're the oddball who had that hiPo 63 Fairlane with full skirts!!).
Neat guy. He is REALLY into it.

Now that is cool.  8)
Title: Re: Reference Book That Every Vintage Shelby Enthusiast Can Benefit From
Post by: Side-Oilers on January 29, 2021, 09:31:18 PM
+1.  Very cool, camp upshur!
Title: Re: Reference Book That Every Vintage Shelby Enthusiast Can Benefit From
Post by: bobmannel on February 01, 2021, 11:43:43 AM
I wish to thank all who ordered my book recently. Getting the word out really helps. As mentioned, I am a first-generation intermediate Fairlane (1962-65) enthusiast, but have owned Comets and a Mustang and enjoyed my friend's Falcon Sprints over the years. I am currently restoring a 1963 Fairlane 500 4-door sedan that came from the factory with the 289 HiPo and 3-speed column shift (the only year the 3-speed was available with the K-code). The 3-speed is a 63 Galaxie big-block unit with a new input shaft for the small-block's deeper bellhousing. I only know of two 63 4-door K-codes and this is the only survivor of the two. How I came to do the book was largely because of the 289 HiPo. But, the story is one of evolution beginning with the 221 V8 (the engine Shelby first did his engine fits in the Cobra, and the engine in my first car -- a 62 Fairlane) and pretty much ends with big-block power taking over, leaving the small block as the daily workhorse.

The book was completed in 1997, before the internet really came into its own. Just because the book was done, I was not satisfied. I am learning all the time. So, some years back I decided to include additional information and fix mistakes. Each chapter got supplemented, the high performance appendix was greatly expanded, and I included all the Ford original part numbers. With the advancement of the internet and Adobe's Portable Document Format (PDF), a digital version was the answer. Furthermore, updates could continue by uploading new individual PDFs. Anyone purchasing a digital version creates an account that allows updating of the PDFs at any time. The first page of my website has a list of the changes for each affected PDF. And, the PDFs have been designed for quick linking to all areas in this version.

Time does not allow me to review each of the forums I might like to, so I remain very active with the Fairlane Club 1962-65 forums as that is where I can contribute my experiences and knowledge about the whole car and not just the engine. However, I am always available through email about specific questions, although I will not always have the answer.
Title: Re: Reference Book That Every Vintage Shelby Enthusiast Can Benefit From
Post by: CSX2259 on February 01, 2021, 12:24:15 PM
GREAT reference book! If you are into 289 hipo engines this is the #1 book you need on your book shelf!
Title: Re: Reference Book That Every Vintage Shelby Enthusiast Can Benefit From
Post by: KerryBWhite on February 01, 2021, 01:08:07 PM
Quote from: CharlesTurner on January 29, 2021, 01:10:12 PM
+1, great resource.  Believe there is also a pdf version.

Bob's website

Book and PDF  39.00

https://fordsmallblock.com/shop/
Title: Re: Reference Book That Every Vintage Shelby Enthusiast Can Benefit From
Post by: gt350hr on February 01, 2021, 05:00:21 PM
Quote from: shelbymann1970 on January 29, 2021, 04:01:55 PM
Thanks Bob. I never knew a book like that existed. I got "how to rebuild your SB Ford" book(decades ago) but not a detail one like this. Gary

    I helped with that one Gary , but there is NO comparison to Bob Mannels encyclopedia!