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Title: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: 2112 on January 26, 2021, 10:54:49 AM
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-shelby-gt500-11/

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This 1967 Shelby Mustang GT500 is one of 2,048 fastback examples produced for the model year and was built on May 19, 1967 before being sold new by McFaydens Co. in Omaha, Nebraska. The car was traded in six months later and purchased in February 1968 by its second owner, with whom it spent 51 years and 118k miles in California and Colorado until 2019. Power is from a 428ci Police Interceptor V8 that was rebuilt in 1974 at 68k miles and is paired with a numbers-matching four-speed manual transmission and a 3.25:1 rear end. The car retains its original color combination of Lime Gold over a Deluxe interior with black vinyl upholstery. Additional factory equipment includes power-assisted steering and front disc brakes, the Extra Cooling Package, a fold-down rear seat, and an AM radio. This GT500 was acquired by the selling dealer from its third owner in 2020 and is offered in Kansas with service records from throughout the car's life dating back to 1972, manuals, a window sticker, a reproduction Special Vehicle Order, Marti and SAAC Registry reports, and a clean Colorado title.

The 428ci Police Interceptor V8 featured hydraulic lifters and twin four-barrel Holley carburetors for factory-rated output of 355 horsepower and 420 lb-ft of torque. The engine was rebuilt in 1974 at 68k miles, and an invoice for the work lists a cylinder head overhaul in addition to replacement of internal components. A new rear main seal was fitted and repairs to the exhaust system carried out in December 2020.
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: 2112 on January 26, 2021, 10:57:23 AM
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Title: BaT - 67 GT500 #2681 - Estes
Post by: Hockeylife on January 26, 2021, 11:02:17 AM
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-shelby-gt500-11/
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: shelbymann1970 on January 26, 2021, 11:08:53 AM
Cobrakid selling. Is that Vern?
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: 2112 on January 26, 2021, 11:13:40 AM
Yes,

Question; I thought all 4-speed cars had 3.50 gears?
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 26, 2021, 11:24:10 AM
Quote from: 2112 on January 26, 2021, 11:13:40 AM
Yes,

Question; I thought all 4-speed cars had 3.50 gears?
Base car 67 GT500 3.50 ,GT350 3.89 . When you start adding AC things change.
Title: Re: BaT - 67 GT500 #2681 - Estes
Post by: honker on January 26, 2021, 11:27:37 AM
thanks for reposting that link from Vern, couldn't open it in the original e-mail I got.

Mike
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: shelbymann1970 on January 26, 2021, 11:27:52 AM
Quote from: 2112 on January 26, 2021, 11:13:40 AM
Yes,

Question; I thought all 4-speed cars had 3.50 gears?
I started reading the posts from newest first and realized by the posts it had to be Vern then I came to the one that he said who he was. Vern has owned a lot of really great cars in a short period of time. This car should do much better than the one that ended yesterday. The gears? not well versed on 67s as to that. It appears to be a 4.11 locking axle according to the I on the Marti report axle designation?
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: shelbymann1970 on January 26, 2021, 12:19:45 PM
Quote from: 2112 on January 26, 2021, 11:13:40 AM
Yes,

Question; I thought all 4-speed cars had 3.50 gears?
Rear end tag on car says 3 50(pic 492). Don't understand the door data code. Gary
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Vernon Estes on January 26, 2021, 01:25:50 PM
Hey Guys!

I greatly appreciate the kind words and I am looking forward to the next 8 days of interacting with commentor on BaT.

The car is really a fantastic, original example. No car is perfect and that certainly goes for this one as well....but I think anyone would be hard pressed to find a more original 67 GT500 anywhere on the market.

Ill be starting another thread by the end of the day today with a detailed description of the car for forum members to read and post on.

Kind regards,
Vern
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: shelbydoug on January 26, 2021, 03:31:15 PM
There are some really good detailing pics.

Sounds pretty good when you run it but I wonder if it starts right up like that hot in those 100 degree summer days?
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Vernon Estes on January 27, 2021, 08:01:42 AM
Quote from: shelbydoug on January 26, 2021, 03:31:15 PM
There are some really good detailing pics.

Sounds pretty good when you run it but I wonder if it starts right up like that hot in those 100 degree summer days?

Ah c'mon Doug of course it starts right up, first turn, any weather, any time. What, your old cars don't? These 67 500s are really great in terms of carb setup, don't ya know??

;D
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: shelbydoug on January 27, 2021, 04:33:09 PM
Quote from: Vernon Estes on January 27, 2021, 08:01:42 AM
Quote from: shelbydoug on January 26, 2021, 03:31:15 PM
There are some really good detailing pics.

Sounds pretty good when you run it but I wonder if it starts right up like that hot in those 100 degree summer days?

Ah c'mon Doug of course it starts right up, first turn, any weather, any time. What, your old cars don't? These 67 500s are really great in terms of carb setup, don't ya know??

;D

::)
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Chad on January 27, 2021, 04:55:23 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on January 26, 2021, 03:31:15 PM
There are some really good detailing pics.

Sounds pretty good when you run it but I wonder if it starts right up like that hot in those 100 degree summer days?
I do not know about everyone else but I do not drive my car when it is 100 degrees outside! ;D
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Vernon Estes on January 27, 2021, 05:40:05 PM
Quote from: Chad on January 27, 2021, 04:55:23 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on January 26, 2021, 03:31:15 PM
There are some really good detailing pics.

Sounds pretty good when you run it but I wonder if it starts right up like that hot in those 100 degree summer days?
I do not know about everyone else but I do not drive my car when it is 100 degrees outside! ;D

C'mon Chad, you got a parchment interior, you baby  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: 427hunter on January 27, 2021, 06:03:09 PM
That looks like a no question, well cared for, original solid car.
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: George Schalk on January 27, 2021, 07:08:55 PM
Very interesting to see another original unrestored '67 Shelby that is not equipped with the reinforced front upper shock mounts.  They look to be original to the car, unless Vern can elaborate if they were changed out at some point.
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Vernon Estes on January 27, 2021, 08:06:05 PM
Quote from: George Schalk on January 27, 2021, 07:08:55 PM
Very interesting to see another original unrestored '67 Shelby that is not equipped with the reinforced front upper shock mounts.  They look to be original to the car, unless Vern can elaborate if they were changed out at some point.

Hey George,

They appear to be original to the car. My understanding is that the hats were supposed to get the washers/reinforcements installed as was part of the export suspension package on all 65-67 Shelbys.That said, there are numerous examples of 66s and 67s out there which didn't receive the washers for whatever reason...I've never seen a 65 without them which was was convinced was original, have you?....could have been a simple oversight on some cars, maybe some kind of a supplier issue, or maybe a factory oversight on small batches of cars?

I wasn't there when the car was built so I wouldn't know. Maybe our cars were "Friday afternoon" cars!  ;D

Kind regards,
Vern
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Fast Fords on January 27, 2021, 09:27:07 PM
I had a fairly original 67 500 and it did not have the reinforcements either. Could have been changed out I guess but thought I would mention it.
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: George Schalk on January 27, 2021, 09:32:14 PM
Hey Vern,
It seems it may be more common than not for a 67 Shelby to not have the reinforced shock mounts.  I wonder what the ratio really is for cars that left the plant with the reinforced caps vs. the cars that didn't receive them.  I noticed the root beer colored Weberized 67 500 you had/have did not have the reinforced caps either.  Interesting topic regardless.
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 28, 2021, 12:38:30 AM
Quote from: George Schalk on January 27, 2021, 09:32:14 PM
Hey Vern,
It seems it may be more common than not for a 67 Shelby to not have the reinforced shock mounts.  I wonder what the ratio really is for cars that left the plant with the reinforced caps vs. the cars that didn't receive them.  I noticed the root beer colored Weberized 67 500 you had/have did not have the reinforced caps either.  Interesting topic regardless.
I think you are jumping to conclusions without adequate facts if you think that more 67 Shelby's then not were missing the specific for export package reinforced beehives/upper shock brackets. I have seen and judged hundreds of restored and unrestored 67 Shelby's for instance and from my point of view is ones that are missing the reinforcement seem to be the exception rather then the rule.  They were meant and specified to be used on all 65-70 Shelby's if you are not aware. Given that they were meant to be used on all years 65-70 Shelby which is backed up by their typically overwhelming presence on 65-70 Shelby's any missing ones would have to be considered a curious anomaly rather then a factory engineering specification. If not a mistake or a lack of inventory issue during different production times in 67 I would like to hear your explanation of what missing ones represent. FYI the car that Vern has on auction now is a true time capsule IMO. That car demonstrates a time when the reinforcement were left off the beehives by mistake or lack of made up inventory .  The rootbeer colored car with the 427 and Webers that Vern sold is not near as original as the auction car in many aspects (duh) and consequently is not near as credible of a untouched useful yard stick for measuring originality . 
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: George Schalk on January 28, 2021, 02:09:59 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on January 28, 2021, 12:38:30 AM
Quote from: George Schalk on January 27, 2021, 09:32:14 PM
Hey Vern,
It seems it may be more common than not for a 67 Shelby to not have the reinforced shock mounts.  I wonder what the ratio really is for cars that left the plant with the reinforced caps vs. the cars that didn't receive them.  I noticed the root beer colored Weberized 67 500 you had/have did not have the reinforced caps either.  Interesting topic regardless.
I think you are jumping to conclusions without adequate facts if you think that more 67 Shelby's then not were missing the specific for export package reinforced beehives/upper shock brackets. I have seen and judged hundreds of restored and unrestored 67 Shelby's for instance and from my point of view is ones that are missing the reinforcement seem to be the exception rather then the rule.  They were meant and specified to be used on all 65-70 Shelby's if you are not aware. Given that they were meant to be used on all years 65-70 Shelby which is backed up by their typically overwhelming presence on 65-70 Shelby's any missing ones would have to be considered a curious anomaly rather then a factory engineering specification. If not a mistake or a lack of inventory issue during different production times in 67 I would like to hear your explanation of what missing ones represent. FYI the car that Vern has on auction now is a true time capsule IMO. That car demonstrates a time when the reinforcement were left off the beehives by mistake or lack of made up inventory .  The rootbeer colored car with the 427 and Webers that Vern sold is not near as original as the auction car in many aspects (duh) and consequently is not near as credible of a untouched useful yard stick for measuring originality .
Oh, behold...the KING has chimed in!!  I certainly do know that 65-70 Shelby's were "meant" to all have the reinforced shock mounts, but the subject is specifically about 1967 cars...not 1965, not 1966, not 1968, not 1969, and certainly not 1970.  It is factual and proven that not all 1967 Shelby's received the reinforced mounts or beehives.  It's almost like you are trying to prove all 67's had the reinforced beehives and shut the subject down, but reality is, they all didn't have them.  I'd truly like to know how many cars in '67 had them or didn't have them.  I never once said all '67 Shelby's were produced without the reinforced mounts.  I do not have all the proof or facts and it is very clear you do not either by your statements above.  And as for the root beer colored car with the Webers, I am aware it's a modified car (in your words "duh"), but I doubt someone would modify the car to the extent it was and then decide to replace a superior part with an inferior part like the std. upper front shock mounts or "beehives".  The fact of the matter is, you don't know and I don't know how many 67's came out of the factory with the anomaly of not having the reinforced beehives.

One more thing Bob, quit with the condescending tones and comments on this forum...it gets a little old.  There are a lot of Shelby enthusiasts that are here to learn and give input and are not looking to get insulted and humiliated by someone like you.  Do a little self-reflection and chill out dude!!
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 28, 2021, 02:20:12 AM
Quote from: George Schalk on January 28, 2021, 02:09:59 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on January 28, 2021, 12:38:30 AM
Quote from: George Schalk on January 27, 2021, 09:32:14 PM
Hey Vern,
It seems it may be more common than not for a 67 Shelby to not have the reinforced shock mounts.  I wonder what the ratio really is for cars that left the plant with the reinforced caps vs. the cars that didn't receive them.  I noticed the root beer colored Weberized 67 500 you had/have did not have the reinforced caps either.  Interesting topic regardless.
I think you are jumping to conclusions without adequate facts if you think that more 67 Shelby's then not were missing the specific for export package reinforced beehives/upper shock brackets. I have seen and judged hundreds of restored and unrestored 67 Shelby's for instance and from my point of view is ones that are missing the reinforcement seem to be the exception rather then the rule.  They were meant and specified to be used on all 65-70 Shelby's if you are not aware. Given that they were meant to be used on all years 65-70 Shelby which is backed up by their typically overwhelming presence on 65-70 Shelby's any missing ones would have to be considered a curious anomaly rather then a factory engineering specification. If not a mistake or a lack of inventory issue during different production times in 67 I would like to hear your explanation of what missing ones represent. FYI the car that Vern has on auction now is a true time capsule IMO. That car demonstrates a time when the reinforcement were left off the beehives by mistake or lack of made up inventory .  The rootbeer colored car with the 427 and Webers that Vern sold is not near as original as the auction car in many aspects (duh) and consequently is not near as credible of a untouched useful yard stick for measuring originality .
Oh, behold...the KING has chimed in!!  I certainly do know that 65-70 Shelby's were "meant" to all have the reinforced shock mounts, but the subject is specifically about 1967 cars...not 1965, not 1966, not 1968, not 1969, and certainly not 1970.  It is factual and proven that not all 1967 Shelby's received the reinforced mounts or beehives.  It's almost like you are trying to prove all 67's had the reinforced beehives and shut the subject down, but reality is, they all didn't have them.  I'd truly like to know how many cars in '67 had them or didn't have them.  I never once said all '67 Shelby's were produced without the reinforced mounts.  I do not have all the proof or facts and it is very clear you do not either by your statements above.  And as for the root beer colored car with the Webers, I am aware it's a modified car (in your words "duh"), but I doubt someone would modify the car to the extent it was and then decide to replace a superior part with an inferior part like the std. upper front shock mounts or "beehives".  The fact of the matter is, you don't know and I don't know how many 67's came out of the factory with the anomaly of not having the reinforced beehives.

One more thing Bob, quit with the condescending tones and comments on this forum...it gets a little old.  There are a lot of Shelby enthusiasts that are here to learn and give input and are not looking to get insulted and humiliated by someone like you.  Do a little self reflection and chill out dude!!
George ,insults are the last resort of INSECURE people with a CRUMBLING position trying to APPEAR confident.
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: shelbydoug on January 28, 2021, 09:07:46 AM
Do those show up on the add/delete sheets?

That car is not quite a perfect original car. It easily could have been built with the reinforced parts and changed out later, maybe when the non-original Koni's were installed, the water pump, fuel pump and accessory belts were changed out?

Here, what's the point of injecting more unsubstantiated conspiracy theories? There is no need to appease certain groups to avoid hate mail or violent mobs.

If you believe that if we all clap together we can save Tinkerbell, that doesn't warrant an investigation to keep you for getting violent. The answer to that for me is very obvious. Of course we can. ;)

The cars were spec'ed with the reinforced parts. If you're missing them but want them, install them. If you don't care, good, neither do we.
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: George Schalk on January 28, 2021, 09:25:20 AM


Lol...no INSECURITIES here and I am very confident, Bob!  You are the one that keeps attacking.  I only speak the truth about your demeanor on this forum and I'm not the only one who feels this way.  When it comes to insults you're very good at dishing them out.  Again, do a little self-reflecting...it may help you.
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Vernon Estes on January 28, 2021, 09:50:42 AM
Quote from: shelbydoug on January 28, 2021, 09:07:46 AM

That car is not quite a perfect original car. It easily could have been built with the reinforced parts and changed out later, maybe when the non-original Koni's were installed, the water pump, fuel pump and accessory belts were changed out?


Worth noting, no car is perfect, even those which appear "perfect" today.

It wouldn't have been difficult to put all those items back to appearing as they did "day 1"...but id rather present the car honestly as a well maintained, often enjoyed, and extremely well preserved car under the ownership of one guy for 51 years. To each his own..I see why some might want to go back to making the car look like its never been touched...wouldn't make much sense, though, considering it has 120k miles.....that would be a lottttttttt of deferred maintenance  ;D

Kind regards,
Vern
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Vernon Estes on January 28, 2021, 10:01:59 AM
Bob and George,

I think you guys are actually pretty much in agreement on the issue at hand...all the cars were "meant" to get the reinforcements...some definitely didn't...nobody knows why. That seems to be the extent of what we can say about it, right?

My observations from cars I've owned as a "dealer" who actually pays attention to that sort of stuff....it seems like if a 67 is missing its washers, it has always been a late production car. Not saying that is some sort of "rule"...just saying as indicated from the limited pool of cars which I have owned which includes 3 original paint late cars including the subject car of this thread. And Ill further say that I haven't owned many "mid" production cars. I've owned my share of early cars and my share of late cars but ive just not owned many in the middle.

66s seem to be sort of the same story, most "missing" on cars where they are fairly "untouched" seem to be late cars, some mid to late production cars?

Either way, if I was a betting man, I'd bet it was a factory "mistake"/supplier issue but who knows. Would be cool to learn why at some point.

Kind regards,
Vern
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: csheff on January 28, 2021, 12:28:16 PM
My junction block looks the same as this one. So they weren't all the gray ones with fins.
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Vernon Estes on January 28, 2021, 01:04:00 PM
Quote from: csheff on January 28, 2021, 12:28:16 PM
My junction block looks the same as this one. So they weren't all the gray ones with fins.

Worth noting though that this is a late car whereas the grey junction block was an early thing. I believe till around #800..so it depends on what number your car is.

Kind regards,
Vern
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 28, 2021, 02:38:54 PM
Quote from: Vernon Estes on January 28, 2021, 01:04:00 PM
Quote from: csheff on January 28, 2021, 12:28:16 PM
My junction block looks the same as this one. So they weren't all the gray ones with fins.

Worth noting though that this is a late car whereas the grey junction block was an early thing. I believe till around #800..so it depends on what number your car is.

Kind regards,
Vern
The grey junction blocks were very limited in use and ceased being used more likely around 200-300 vin. The grey junction block was a out sourced Industrial part. The black junction block was better and safer for use in the 67 Shelby plus was a Ford part already in the system.The auction car junction block was used for at least 95% of production .
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: shelbymann1970 on January 28, 2021, 03:58:34 PM
Can someone post a pic of the  reinforced beehives/upper shock brackets(reinforced front upper shock mounts) that are mentioned in this thread? Thanks. Gary
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: shelbydoug on January 28, 2021, 04:58:28 PM
here ya go
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: pbf777 on January 28, 2021, 05:46:14 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on January 28, 2021, 04:58:28 PM
here ya go

     Does your example have "Heli-Coil" inserts installed; and if so, then were the washer additions threaded originally?      ???

     Scott.
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 28, 2021, 06:36:03 PM
Quote from: pbf777 on January 28, 2021, 05:46:14 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on January 28, 2021, 04:58:28 PM
here ya go

     Does your example have "Heli-Coil" inserts installed; and if so, then were the washer additions threaded originally?      ???

     Scott.
Scott ,original reinforced brackets simply had washers welded on to unmodified Mustang brackets.There was no other modification with the threads.
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: rhjanes on January 28, 2021, 06:38:02 PM
Quote from: Chad on January 27, 2021, 04:55:23 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on January 26, 2021, 03:31:15 PM
There are some really good detailing pics.

Sounds pretty good when you run it but I wonder if it starts right up like that hot in those 100 degree summer days?
I do not know about everyone else but I do not drive my car when it is 100 degrees outside! ;D
You must not be in Texas, Arizona....  ;D
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: shelbydoug on January 28, 2021, 06:54:48 PM
Quote from: pbf777 on January 28, 2021, 05:46:14 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on January 28, 2021, 04:58:28 PM
here ya go

     Does your example have "Heli-Coil" inserts installed; and if so, then were the washer additions threaded originally?      ???

     Scott.

Yes that one is heli-coiled to use with 3/8" bolts for competition use. The flat washers are not normally threaded but those are the 67 beehive.



The '68 I have as smaller diameter (OD) washers. The 67s are larger.
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: pbf777 on January 28, 2021, 06:58:59 PM
      Thank you both.     :)

      Scott.
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 28, 2021, 08:47:35 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on January 28, 2021, 06:54:48 PM
Quote from: pbf777 on January 28, 2021, 05:46:14 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on January 28, 2021, 04:58:28 PM
here ya go

     Does your example have "Heli-Coil" inserts installed; and if so, then were the washer additions threaded originally?      ???

     Scott.

Yes that one is heli-coiled to use with 3/8" bolts for competition use. The flat washers are not normally threaded but those are the 67 beehive.



The '68 I have as smaller diameter (OD) washers. The 67s are larger.
67-70 reinforced upper brackets typically all the same size washer. You should not be able to tell from construction from one year to the other.
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: 68krrrr on January 29, 2021, 01:59:06 AM
Great detailed pics for sure ,something i noticed that i haven't seen before is the sideways radiator tag ,was this a Friday afternoon thing or pretty common ?
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: J_Speegle on January 29, 2021, 04:18:31 AM
Quote from: 68krrrr on January 29, 2021, 01:59:06 AM
Great detailed pics for sure ,something i noticed that i haven't seen before is the sideways radiator tag ,was this a Friday afternoon thing or pretty common ?

Not typical IME

May have been apart and cleaned or rodded at some point for maintenance purposes but can't be certain about that given the pictures

Yes plenty of nice clear pictures but of course what we would expect on car with its history, write up and seller :)
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: shelbydoug on January 29, 2021, 07:49:50 AM
Is it typical to have the bottom of the transmission stamped like that?

I'd love to know the date code on that bell? Did I miss that pic Vern? Maybe I got blurry eyed?
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Coralsnake on January 29, 2021, 08:21:17 AM
QuoteIs it typical to have the bottom of the transmission stamped like that?

Very typical
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: shelbymann1970 on January 29, 2021, 03:46:27 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on January 28, 2021, 04:58:28 PM
here ya go
Thanks, I figured that was it as I have those on my 70 and also on my old 68. I went looking at the some other 67 Shelbys on BaT and they all seemed by the pics to have the non washer variety so it made me question if I was looking at what many were saying here.  Gary
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: pbf777 on January 29, 2021, 03:57:52 PM
     Maybe I'm just not seeing it correctly but what are the numbers stamped into the top of the shock tower?      ???

     Scott.
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: shelbymann1970 on January 29, 2021, 05:29:56 PM
Quote from: pbf777 on January 29, 2021, 03:57:52 PM
     Maybe I'm just not seeing it correctly but what are the numbers stamped into the top of the shock tower?      ???

     Scott.
Export car. Had to be stamped by law I was told . Also this plate was installed. Gary
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Bigfoot on January 29, 2021, 09:22:55 PM
This car have its original born with engine ?
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Vernon Estes on January 29, 2021, 11:58:49 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on January 29, 2021, 07:49:50 AM
Is it typical to have the bottom of the transmission stamped like that?

I'd love to know the date code on that bell? Did I miss that pic Vern? Maybe I got blurry eyed?

Whoops, sorry guys, I didnt look at this thread all day.

Trans on this particular car, as a later car, should look like what is pictured in the auction. Trans stamps were different for early production cars, mid production cars, and late cars from what I have seen.

Date code on the bell housing you mean? I don't believe I have a picture of that. I can check on Monday though.

Vern
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Vernon Estes on January 30, 2021, 12:00:08 AM
Quote from: Bigfoot on January 29, 2021, 09:22:55 PM
This car have its original born with engine ?

Biggie,

Does Dolly Parton sleep on her back?

Hell yes she does.

And hell yes she does.

Kind regards,
Vern
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: shelbydoug on January 30, 2021, 06:30:08 AM
Quote from: Vernon Estes on January 30, 2021, 12:00:08 AM
Quote from: Bigfoot on January 29, 2021, 09:22:55 PM
This car have its original born with engine ?

Biggie,

Does Dolly Parton sleep on her back?

Hell yes she does.

And hell yes she does.

Kind regards,
Vern

You got pics?
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Coralsnake on January 30, 2021, 08:24:50 AM
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/8-300121082426.jpeg)
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: 427heaven on January 30, 2021, 08:47:45 AM
Maybe a little something where the twins are not under lock down ? ;D
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: shelbydoug on January 30, 2021, 08:59:03 AM
Quote from: Coralsnake on January 30, 2021, 08:24:50 AM
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/8-300121082426.jpeg)

"Got pics"...of the bell!  :o
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: mark p on January 30, 2021, 10:53:06 AM
LOL - thread seems to have "curved" off on a tangent?  :o ??? ::)

Vern - good luck with the Auction, what a great example of preservation  8)

Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: shelbydoug on January 30, 2021, 11:21:06 AM
Quote from: mark p on January 30, 2021, 10:53:06 AM
LOL - thread seems to have "curved" off on a tangent?  :o ??? ::)

Vern - good luck with the Auction, what a great example of preservation  8)

For sure!  ::)
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 30, 2021, 11:42:38 AM
It was a pleasure looking through the pictures again just to appreciate how untouched this car really is. With the exception of a few maintenance items it is all there . Not many left of any year Shelby untouched yet still nice looking .
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 30, 2021, 11:44:37 AM
I have seen the car in person too . I could spend hours and hours.
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Bigfoot on January 30, 2021, 01:34:53 PM
Quote from: Vernon Estes on January 30, 2021, 12:00:08 AM
Quote from: Bigfoot on January 29, 2021, 09:22:55 PM
This car have its original born with engine ?

Biggie,

Does Dolly Parton sleep on her back?

Hell yes she does.

And hell yes she does.

Kind regards,
Vern

Have you ever heard of a wedge pillow?
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Bigfoot on January 30, 2021, 01:36:08 PM
Does this car have its original paint?
Meaning has it ever been repainted?
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Vernon Estes on January 30, 2021, 04:01:59 PM
Quote from: Bigfoot on January 30, 2021, 01:36:08 PM
Does this car have its original paint?
Meaning has it ever been repainted?

Yessir the car is still in its original paint.

Kind regards,
Vern
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: shelbydoug on January 30, 2021, 04:04:17 PM
Quote from: Bigfoot on January 30, 2021, 01:34:53 PM
Quote from: Vernon Estes on January 30, 2021, 12:00:08 AM
Quote from: Bigfoot on January 29, 2021, 09:22:55 PM
This car have its original born with engine ?

Biggie,

Does Dolly Parton sleep on her back?

Hell yes she does.

And hell yes she does.

Kind regards,
Vern

Have you ever heard of a wedge pillow?

Is that a crack about Mopars?
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Vernon Estes on February 03, 2021, 09:26:19 AM
Dudes,

Auction ends today! Should be fun to watch.

Kind regards,
Vern
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: 2112 on February 03, 2021, 09:48:07 AM
Good luck!
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: chris NOS on February 03, 2021, 10:34:44 AM
i would love to be able to buy this one !!!
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: shelbydoug on February 03, 2021, 11:59:59 AM
Quote from: Vernon Estes on February 03, 2021, 09:26:19 AM
Dudes,

Auction ends today! Should be fun to watch.

Kind regards,
Vern

HEY! Where's my bellhouse date code picture?

I'm gonna' have to bug the new owner for it?  ::)
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: KR Convertible on February 03, 2021, 12:16:54 PM
I was surprised there was no baby seat in the car!   ;D
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: chris NOS on February 03, 2021, 02:17:11 PM
sold for  191 000.00, and i didn't knew The auction ends 2 minutes after the last bid is received.so it was many times the last minute and bang another 2 extra minutes!
2 bidders at the end were fighting !
Congratulations vern' !
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: 2112 on February 03, 2021, 02:40:14 PM
The consolation prizes were brilliant.

And classy.   8)
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Vernon Estes on February 03, 2021, 02:52:45 PM
Thanks guys! Was fun to be a part of. New owner should be very happy when he receives the car!

Kind regards,
Vern

Shelbydoug, ill get it!
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: shelbydoug on February 03, 2021, 05:52:29 PM
Quote from: Vernon Estes on February 03, 2021, 02:52:45 PM
Thanks guys! Was fun to be a part of. New owner should be very happy when he receives the car!

Kind regards,
Vern

Shelbydoug, ill get it!

I was going to buy the car so I could get the bell but then I'd still have a car needing a bell so there was no solution!  ???
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Vernon Estes on February 03, 2021, 06:14:24 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on February 03, 2021, 05:52:29 PM
Quote from: Vernon Estes on February 03, 2021, 02:52:45 PM
Thanks guys! Was fun to be a part of. New owner should be very happy when he receives the car!

Kind regards,
Vern

Shelbydoug, ill get it!

I was going to buy the car so I could get the bell but then I'd still have a car needing a bell so there was no solution!  ???

7B27 lol
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: shelbydoug on February 03, 2021, 07:12:18 PM
Thankyou. Do you happen to know the Ford build date of the car?
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: GT350DAVE on February 03, 2021, 07:51:21 PM
Doug,
You need to buy the 2011 Registry.
:)Dave
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: shelbydoug on February 03, 2021, 08:12:58 PM
Quote from: GT350DAVE on February 03, 2021, 07:51:21 PM
Doug,
You need to buy the 2011 Registry.
:)Dave

;D
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: J_Speegle on February 03, 2021, 10:13:31 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on February 03, 2021, 07:12:18 PM
Thankyou. Do you happen to know the Ford build date of the car?

Believe Registry shows 19E
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: T-Bone68 on February 03, 2021, 11:58:38 PM
Congratulations on the sale Vern! 

I also wanted to say thank you for spending the time to so thoroughly document it with pictures and share.  Great reference material as I slowly work on mine.

John
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: shelbydoug on February 04, 2021, 07:44:57 AM
Quote from: J_Speegle on February 03, 2021, 10:13:31 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on February 03, 2021, 07:12:18 PM
Thankyou. Do you happen to know the Ford build date of the car?

Believe Registry shows 19E

That's a surprising difference in a time line but helps in knowing what exists on the bells and what would work for me? That appears to be largely unknown data?
Early, 6J's and later 8's seem to be in greater supply. Anyone can speculate as to why but I'm wondering if few '67 500's were changed out and or if they were, got trashed and recycled as new cast iron toy soldiers?

I've come across one other 7B before. Nothing else. Still doesn't answer the "batch" question though? Maybe a bunch of B's?

It could also be a suggestion that not as many cars were parted out and a much greater number exist then thought to  and still exist out in the shadows somewhere waiting to be reborn?


Nice sale Vern. Thank you for posting pics even though I know they were not for me and my informative needs.

Goes to prove that "they" are still out there, even though they are all lime?  ;D
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Vernon Estes on February 04, 2021, 09:18:20 AM
Thanks for the kind words guys!

And happy to have posted the pictures on BaT. If anyone would like them, you can reach out to me with your email and I can share with you the dropbox folders where all the files are...beats the heck out of going through every one, right clicking, and saving  :D

Kind regards,
Vern
Title: Re: VERY Original '67 GT500 on BaT
Post by: Vernon Estes on February 04, 2021, 12:36:55 PM
Link to Dropbox for those who want them...

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/avchfszoye4sjcu/AAD5p18hlOP9Vg9rcajQEhxWa?dl=0