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Title: And Now For Something From The 'In Your Dreams' Category
Post by: BGlover67 on January 24, 2021, 10:06:00 PM
The bid starts at $500,000 with a $5,000 delivery fee.  Yikes!   :o.  Signed by a man who autographed practically EVERYTHING!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/One-Of-A-Kind-Carroll-Shelby-Painting-Signed-By-Carroll-Shelby-and-the-Artist/265024962015?hash=item3db4b7fddf:g:AgYAAOSwiTNgDGdn

One Of A Kind Carroll Shelby Painting - Signed By Carroll Shelby and the Artist!

Item specifics

Listed By:   Artist   Year:   1998
Features:   Signed, Framed   Width (Inches):   30"
Medium:   Acrylic   Date of Creation:   1990-1999
Subject:   Carroll Shelby   Originality:   Original
Style:   Realism   Height (Inches):   40"
Region of Origin:   US   Quantity Type:   Single-Piece Work
Painting Surface:   Canvas   Artist:   Jim Schroeder
Color:   
Multi-Color
Size:   Large (up to 60in.)


Here is your chance to own this "Original" Carroll Shelby, autographed painting. Carroll Shelby autographed this painting on his 75th birthday November 11, 1998. My father (Jim Schroeder) was friends with Carroll Shelby and painted these amazing images of Carroll through the years of his life along with Carroll's most beloved cars. The painting also shows Carroll as a Chicken Farmer, when he won Le Mans in 1959. Any Carroll Shelby enthusiast will appreciate everything about this original, one of a kind painting. You will never find another painting like this, especially autographed by Carroll himself.


My father has decided to sell this painting and allow some other Carroll Shelby enthusiast to enjoy it. The painting is beautifully framed and has an accent light that makes the paintings features stand out.


Bid starts at $500,000!

This piece of fine art has incredible value... that is why we are also offering delivery from the artist himself if interested. You would be allowed to take photos with Jim Schroeder and hear more stories about the painting. The delivery fee would be $5,000. Otherwise we will insure and ship the painting with the utmost care.






Title: Re: And Now For Something From The 'In Your Dreams' Category
Post by: 2112 on January 24, 2021, 10:24:11 PM
 :-X
Title: Re: And Now For Something From The 'In Your Dreams' Category
Post by: 67 GT350 on January 25, 2021, 10:10:41 AM
Oh that's funny...
Title: Re: And Now For Something From The 'In Your Dreams' Category
Post by: JD on January 25, 2021, 10:24:22 AM
"... Carroll Shelby autographed this painting on his 75th birthday November 11, 1998. ..."

That is/was not Shelby's birthday month!
Title: Re: And Now For Something From The 'In Your Dreams' Category
Post by: 557 on January 25, 2021, 01:26:35 PM
I guess I need to look into a reverse mortgage  :o
Title: Re: And Now For Something From The 'In Your Dreams' Category
Post by: Bigfoot on January 25, 2021, 05:28:59 PM
Certainly this should have already sold.
It's a factory Drag unit or whatever right?...
Title: Re: And Now For Something From The 'In Your Dreams' Category
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on January 27, 2021, 09:53:28 PM
It's a typo in the ad the pictures show 1-1-1985 Too bad they ruined it with the Viper on it.
I wonder what the price would be without the $150 autograph.

From the magazine Automobile. The same business model Ford used with the new GT500s and GT350s.

While Cobra patriarch Carroll Shelby was involved in the project, his involvement was at a minimal level, primarily helping to publicize and market the car.
Title: Re: And Now For Something From The 'In Your Dreams' Category
Post by: FL SAAC on January 28, 2021, 10:42:00 AM
$500,000 that's not bad......

Quick my wallet's in my right front pocket, just take the money. Oh, and I'll also take that statue of liberty too.
Title: Re: And Now For Something From The 'In Your Dreams' Category
Post by: Cobrask8 on January 28, 2021, 10:56:02 AM
I've got this wonderful bridge for sale. Lots of stone work, easy access, used gently....
Title: Re: And Now For Something From The 'In Your Dreams' Category
Post by: FL SAAC on January 28, 2021, 11:05:24 AM
Crap, with our recent acquisition of this painting and the "Statue" puts us out the market for your bridge.....maybe next time

Quote from: Cobrask8 on January 28, 2021, 10:56:02 AM
I've got this wonderful bridge for sale. Lots of stone work, easy access, used gently....
Title: Re: And Now For Something From The 'In Your Dreams' Category
Post by: Vernon Estes on January 28, 2021, 01:04:35 PM
Quote from: Bigfoot on January 25, 2021, 05:28:59 PM
Certainly this should have already sold.
It's a factory Drag unit or whatever right?...

;D
Title: Re: And Now For Something From The 'In Your Dreams' Category
Post by: 557 on January 28, 2021, 03:40:44 PM
Better clear some wall space.... :o
Title: Re: And Now For Something From The 'In Your Dreams' Category
Post by: Side-Oilers on January 28, 2021, 03:46:53 PM
Pertaining to the Viper in the painting...I don't disagree that it is out of place, in a historical sense, but...

At the risk of creating "topic drift",  I just wanted to point out that two very talented guys (Joel Jackson and Monty Montgomery) at Shelby Automobiles in Whittier scratch-built the original (pretty sophisticated) tube-frame chassis for the "Cobra for the '90s" before it was called Viper.

I worked there at the time, in Shelby PR, and occasionally would peek behind the curtain to see the latest mods. There was a mock-up a V-10 made of wood.

After the chassis was presented to a group of Chrysler people (in CS's words to me, later in his life) "Chrysler took it and f****d it up." 

Following that, yes, Carrol's role in the Viper was mostly as figurehead.

In 2008, Joel Jackson wrote a book called "Fast Days" that covers the interesting story behind the development of the Viper, warts and all.
Title: Re: And Now For Something From The 'In Your Dreams' Category
Post by: JohnB on January 28, 2021, 04:00:15 PM
Quote from: Side-Oilers on January 28, 2021, 03:46:53 PM
Pertaining to the Viper in the painting...I don't disagree that it is out of place, in a historical sense, but...

At the risk of creating "topic drift",  I just wanted to point out that two very talented guys (Joel Jackson and Monty Montgomery) at Shelby Automobiles in Whittier scratch-built the original (pretty sophisticated) tube-frame chassis for the "Cobra for the '90s" before it was called Viper.

I worked there at the time, in Shelby PR, and occasionally would peek behind the curtain to see the latest mods. There was a mock-up a V-10 made of wood.

After the chassis was presented to a group of Chrysler people (in CS's words to me, later in his life) "Chrysler took it and f****d it up." 

Following that, yes, Carrol's role in the Viper was mostly as figurehead.

In 2008, Joel Jackson wrote a book called "Fast Days" that covers the interesting story behind the development of the Viper, warts and all.


https://www.amazon.com/Fast-Days-Joel-W-Jackson/dp/1439219834/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1611867551&sr=1-2


Title: Re: And Now For Something From The 'In Your Dreams' Category
Post by: 2112 on January 28, 2021, 05:11:19 PM
Quote from: Side-Oilers on January 28, 2021, 03:46:53 PM
Pertaining to the Viper in the painting...I don't disagree that it is out of place, in a historical sense, but...

At the risk of creating "topic drift",  I just wanted to point out that two very talented guys (Joel Jackson and Monty Montgomery) at Shelby Automobiles in Whittier scratch-built the original (pretty sophisticated) tube-frame chassis for the "Cobra for the '90s" before it was called Viper.

I worked there at the time, in Shelby PR, and occasionally would peek behind the curtain to see the latest mods. There was a mock-up a V-10 made of wood.

After the chassis was presented to a group of Chrysler people (in CS's words to me, later in his life) "Chrysler took it and f****d it up." 

Following that, yes, Carrol's role in the Viper was mostly as figurehead.

In 2008, Joel Jackson wrote a book called "Fast Days" that covers the interesting story behind the development of the Viper, warts and all.

So did Shelby Automobiles design the first Viper?

Are there any pictures of their design floating around in the ether?
Title: Re: And Now For Something From The 'In Your Dreams' Category
Post by: Side-Oilers on January 28, 2021, 05:50:25 PM
Hi 2112,
Tom Gale and others in the Chrysler design team were responsible. 

IIRC, the legend goes that Lutz, Gale and Francois Castaing talked "what if" while Gale sketched it out on a bar napkin.  CS might have been there too.  But, I wasn't, so I can't say definitely. 

Others here may know more.

I have a handful of snapshots I took of the chassis, the body and the wood V-10, but they're in some box somewhere in my garages.
Title: Re: And Now For Something From The 'In Your Dreams' Category
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on January 28, 2021, 08:12:51 PM
Quote from: Cobrask8 on January 28, 2021, 10:56:02 AM
I've got this wonderful bridge for sale. Lots of stone work, easy access, used gently....
I'm guessing you met Robert McCulloch

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Bridge_(Lake_Havasu_City)
Title: Re: And Now For Something From The 'In Your Dreams' Category
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on January 28, 2021, 08:29:47 PM
SA in Whittier was a skunk works for Chrysler. They were doing a lot of oddball what if projects. I remember a minivan being converted to 4WD. They were using a Corvette IRS bolted to the floor of the van. I ended up with 2 sets of 16" BBS wheels with Goodyear Gatorbacks for my minivan from that project. I was there one day and CS saw them on my van and said they were the first set and the offset was wrong. He gave me another set with a different offset. I was amazed he was hands on enough that a set of wheels would stick in his mind. I would suspect the chassis was merely one with the proper dimensions to hold the mock up engine and be used by Chrysler Styling to finish a concept body on.
Title: Re: And Now For Something From The 'In Your Dreams' Category
Post by: Don Johnston on January 28, 2021, 09:40:45 PM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on January 28, 2021, 08:12:51 PM
Quote from: Cobrask8 on January 28, 2021, 10:56:02 AM
I've got this wonderful bridge for sale. Lots of stone work, easy access, used gently....
I'm guessing you met Robert McCulloch

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Bridge_(Lake_Havasu_City)

I see the connection now.  London Bridge was brought in by Robert Paxton McCulloch , formerly of Paxton Industries, which developed the supercharger option for use on 1966 and later Shelby GT350 and a couple of notorious Cobras.  So maybe the bridge should have been in the painting next to the Viper.

Oh, well.  At least we have a new standard for a CS signature.  Save your signed dash or visor.   8)
Title: Re: And Now For Something From The 'In Your Dreams' Category
Post by: FL SAAC on January 29, 2021, 08:42:41 AM
Quote from: Don Johnston on January 28, 2021, 09:40:45 PM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on January 28, 2021, 08:12:51 PM
Quote from: Cobrask8 on January 28, 2021, 10:56:02 AM
I've got this wonderful bridge for sale. Lots of stone work, easy access, used gently....
I'm guessing you met Robert McCulloch

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Bridge_(Lake_Havasu_City)

I see the connection now.  London Bridge was brought in by Robert Paxton McCulloch , formerly of Paxton Industries, which developed the supercharger option for use on 1966 and later Shelby GT350 and a couple of notorious Cobras.  So maybe the bridge should have been in the painting next to the Viper.

Oh, well.  At least we have a new standard for a CS signature.  Save your signed dash or visor.   8)

The London Bridge genie has heard your desires and granted your wish...shazam !
Title: Re: And Now For Something From The 'In Your Dreams' Category
Post by: 427heaven on January 29, 2021, 09:09:16 AM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on January 28, 2021, 08:12:51 PM
Quote from: Cobrask8 on January 28, 2021, 10:56:02 AM
I've got this wonderful bridge for sale. Lots of stone work, easy access, used gently....
I'm guessing you met Robert McCulloch

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Bridge_(Lake_Havasu_City)
I am guessing that your story is a little off. The McCulloch corp. Is actually derived from the Chain saw empire, remember them? They became MCO properties in which they were a major land holder out west back in the day, and still are! If you are a fellow HOT BOATER which I am, the place to be each summer is at the BRIDGE. You will find the fastest most spectacular boats ever to be conceived on planet earth. Not to mention some good looking people as well. OOOOH thats the place to see and be seen- Check it out!!!
Title: Re: And Now For Something From The 'In Your Dreams' Category
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on January 29, 2021, 11:07:06 AM
Quote from: 427heaven on January 29, 2021, 09:09:16 AM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on January 28, 2021, 08:12:51 PM
Quote from: Cobrask8 on January 28, 2021, 10:56:02 AM
I've got this wonderful bridge for sale. Lots of stone work, easy access, used gently....
I'm guessing you met Robert McCulloch

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Bridge_(Lake_Havasu_City)
I am guessing that your story is a little off. The McCulloch corp. Is actually derived from the Chain saw empire, remember them? They became MCO properties in which they were a major land holder out west back in the day, and still are! If you are a fellow HOT BOATER which I am, the place to be each summer is at the BRIDGE. You will find the fastest most spectacular boats ever to be conceived on planet earth. Not to mention some good looking people as well. OOOOH thats the place to see and be seen- Check it out!!!

McCulloch invented what became the Paxton. At one point they were even called McCilloch-Paxton Superchargers.  http://vs57.y-block.info/history.htm

McCulloch themselves reported in 1955 that Benson Ford had driven a McCulloch powered Thunderbird and was very impressed, and also reported in early 1956 that more than 50% of the VS57 supercharger installations were to Ford Thunderbirds. Regardless, at some time in 1956 Ford were shown the direct oiled VR57, which would have been at, or near, the end of it's development life, and ready for production, and were sufficiently impressed that they wisely engaged McCulloch's Paxton Products for an exclusive one year contract for the VR57.


BTW The bridge added to the painting makes the same mistake McCulloch did (despite the denials of todays rewritten history). That is the Tower Bridge.