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The Cars => 1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 => Topic started by: Shell69 on December 29, 2020, 07:16:43 PM

Title: Carburetor spacer GT 350
Post by: Shell69 on December 29, 2020, 07:16:43 PM
Did the GT350 come from the factory with a spacer under the carburetor? Mine had a 1" aluminum spacer, but no foam seal under the hood, so when I installed new foam seal on air grab hood its to tight, had to install a 1/4" spacer for it to work.

https://d2zl5tj7gmc4tr.cloudfront.net/images/products/9a589-2a_20180411220431.jpg
Title: Re: Carburetor spacer GT 350
Post by: Bob Gaines on December 29, 2020, 08:13:13 PM
Quote from: Shell69 on December 29, 2020, 07:16:43 PM
Did the GT350 come from the factory with a spacer under the carburetor? Mine had a 1" aluminum spacer, but no foam seal under the hood, so when I installed new foam seal on air grab hood its to tight, had to install a 1/4" spacer for it to work.

https://d2zl5tj7gmc4tr.cloudfront.net/images/products/9a589-2a_20180411220431.jpg
I typically find a backlite space with a short straight metal nipple on 69/70 GT350 survivor cars . The one you picture I don't think was available until April of 69 and used on the Boss 302. I think the 351 W in the GT350 continued to use the same spacer with the short nipple. They were easily broken and when the 351 W spacer was dropped the Boss 302 spacer was the replacement.Ther is anecdotal evidence to suggest that the BOSS 302 spacer was introduced into 69/70 GT350 production before it ended.  It was improved part that was easier to attach the hose to and consequently didn't get broken trying to attach like the short strait nipple. So yes the picture is a new and improved version of what typically came on the 69/70 GT350 from the factory . There is a GT500 foam seal which is short and a GT350 foam seal that is tall . Each model got its own specific type of seal.That is because the engines sit differently in the chassis one taller then the other. The GT350 needed the taller foam seal because it sat lower in the chassis.
Title: Re: Carburetor spacer GT 350
Post by: Shell69 on December 29, 2020, 11:22:57 PM
Bob, thanks for responding and verifying the setup that I used is probably as close to factory as I can get. This seems to work just fine and it works with my hood seal and seems to run fine, so I'm pleased.  :)
Title: Re: Carburetor spacer GT 350
Post by: Shell69 on December 29, 2020, 11:49:26 PM
This may be the straight type that you were referring too?
http://www.mansfieldmustang.com/03-01.JPG
Title: Re: Carburetor spacer GT 350
Post by: Bob Gaines on December 30, 2020, 12:30:18 AM
Quote from: Shell69 on December 29, 2020, 11:49:26 PM
This may be the straight type that you were referring too?
http://www.mansfieldmustang.com/03-01.JPG
That one works the same but I believe that is the earlier 68 type. The part evolved later in 68 possibly to the bakelite with the steel short tube also used in 69. Then to the backlite with the long steel tube used first on the Boss 302 in and possible later 69 on the GT350.
Title: Re: Carburetor spacer GT 350
Post by: J_Speegle on December 30, 2020, 12:57:15 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on December 30, 2020, 12:30:18 AM
...............The part evolved later in 68 possibly to the bakelite with the steel short tube also used in 69. Then to the backlite with the long steel tube used first on the Boss 302 in and possible later 69 on the GT350.

+1 matches what I found (early/late versions)
Title: Re: Carburetor spacer GT 350
Post by: martyjac on December 30, 2020, 01:44:13 PM
Does anyone know the original Ford part number for these?
Title: Re: Carburetor spacer GT 350
Post by: Corey Bowcutt on December 30, 2020, 02:25:02 PM
According to thecoralsnake.com the part number for the 1968 version is C8AE-9A589-F as seen in The Shelby Automotive recall letter.

Corey
Title: Re: Carburetor spacer GT 350
Post by: Coralsnake on December 30, 2020, 02:37:31 PM
I think I have another number, let me see what I can find...
Title: Re: Carburetor spacer GT 350
Post by: 69 GT350 Vert on December 30, 2020, 05:54:28 PM
The spacer with the short steel tube is super hard to find.  I looked for one for 10 years and never found one. 
Title: Re: Carburetor spacer GT 350
Post by: Coralsnake on December 30, 2020, 06:10:52 PM
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/8-301220180908.jpeg)

C2AZ-9A589-E, I think its in the correct box
Title: Re: Carburetor spacer GT 350
Post by: Bill on December 30, 2020, 06:27:05 PM
How about a part number for the correct gasket for this one  ;)
(https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13275.0;attach=57667;image)
Title: Re: Carburetor spacer GT 350
Post by: J_Speegle on December 30, 2020, 06:43:52 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on December 30, 2020, 06:10:52 PM
C2AZ-9A589-E, I think its in the correct box

Have pictures of another that looks very similar with part number of C3AZ-9A589-C - believe this was from an old EBay ad

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/14/6-301220184238.jpeg)


and a C8AZ-9A589-E for comparison

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/14/6-301220184218.jpeg)


Do have an older graphic I posted in the earlier forum and I thought I would include believe there were each identified as (from upper left to lower right) as
B9AE, C3AE -C, C8AE-D, C8AZ-E


(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/14/6-080720141809.jpeg)

Title: Re: Carburetor spacer GT 350
Post by: Shell69 on January 19, 2021, 12:33:09 AM
My spacer came in, 1/4" thick and now I have transmission kickdown rod issue's, it appears its to long.? anyone have this issue?
Title: Re: Carburetor spacer GT 350
Post by: SCJSTU on February 16, 2022, 02:22:23 PM
Good stuff......i'm now looking for a correct spacer too..
Title: Re: Carburetor spacer GT 350
Post by: Bob Gaines on February 16, 2022, 02:26:59 PM
Quote from: Shell69 on January 19, 2021, 12:33:09 AM
My spacer came in, 1/4" thick and now I have transmission kickdown rod issue's, it appears its to long.? anyone have this issue?
It may have been changed out. I have a original 351W kick down rod if anyone needs one .
Title: Re: Carburetor spacer GT 350
Post by: SCJSTU on February 16, 2022, 02:29:42 PM
Quote from: Bill on December 30, 2020, 06:27:05 PM
How about a part number for the correct gasket for this one  ;)
(https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13275.0;attach=57667;image)

What Bill said.......
Title: Re: Carburetor spacer GT 350
Post by: Bob Gaines on February 16, 2022, 02:42:21 PM
Quote from: SCJSTU on February 16, 2022, 02:22:23 PM
Good stuff......i'm now looking for a correct spacer too..
Take the Boss 302 version and trim down the metal tube . Once you attach the hose you will not be able to tell the difference. ;) . When using the short tube version be sure to attach the pvc hose first before installing carburetor or risk breaking the tube and spacer like so many did back in the day.
Title: Re: Carburetor spacer GT 350
Post by: Krelboyne on April 01, 2022, 09:40:50 PM
Found another version? Scooped it up at the Portland Swap Meet today. No barb on the metal tube.
Title: Re: Carburetor spacer GT 350
Post by: Bob Gaines on April 03, 2022, 12:03:11 AM
Quote from: Krelboyne on April 01, 2022, 09:40:50 PM
Found another version? Scooped it up at the Portland Swap Meet today. No barb on the metal tube.
My guess it has been trimmed. You don't typically find a tube on a breather cap, air cleaner base, pcv valve  etc. without the hump on the end to make it so that the hose stays on better.