Thank you Keith, Paul.
I'm jealous, I've all kinds of stories about how they aren't the best for the street, but it doesn't matter I still want a set
;D
It's a disease. Once infected, there is no known cure. There is no reasoning with a Weberized person. Don't go there.
Nice Paul! Welcome to the Matrix. 8)
drove my Cobra for 12 years on the street with webers - no filters. Once you get them dialed in they are amazing
Stop it, you guys are killing me. I feel myself weakening each moment.
Quote from: Steve McDonald Formally known as Mcdonas on March 27, 2018, 06:53:48 PM
Stop it, you guys are killing me. I feel myself weakening each moment.
You are infected. The sooner you give in, the sooner you will enjoy them.
Awesome Paul, which one did you do that to? 541?
Cheers
Quote from: shelbydoug on March 27, 2018, 08:14:30 PM
Quote from: Steve McDonald Formally known as Mcdonas on March 27, 2018, 06:53:48 PM
Stop it, you guys are killing me. I feel myself weakening each moment.
You are infected. The sooner you give in, the sooner you will enjoy them.
Penicillin
It is indeed car #541.
Welcome to the 8-stack pack! You'll enjoy them ;D
Quote from: Steve McDonald Formally known as Mcdonas on March 27, 2018, 02:38:13 PM
I'm jealous, I've all kinds of stories about how they aren't the best for the street, but it doesn't matter I still want a set
define "best"
Z.
I hear thyme can be "cold natured", can be tricky in hot weather in "Stop and Go traffic", I hear the mileage can suffer. I hear you can make more power with a single 4 barrel. But it like having a supermodel for a girl friend, the costs may be worth it
Quote from: Steve McDonald Formally known as Mcdonas on March 28, 2018, 02:57:46 PM
I hear thyme can be "cold natured", can be tricky in hot weather in "Stop and Go traffic", I hear the mileage can suffer. I hear you can make more power with a single 4 barrel. But it like having a supermodel for a girl friend, the costs may be worth it
I've heard that 4 barrel comment many times as well. I've had all types of 4 barrel carbs on HiPo 289 engines, but based on my own experiences which may have no correlation to someone else's, none of the 4 barrels came close to having the midrange torque or high rpm HP of a well tuned quad Weber 48 IDA carb set
The recent postings regarding the power output of various 289 induction systems made me think of the old High Performance catalog that Ford dealers used to have. Youu could get some pretty amazing set-ups direct from the local dealer.
The following was copied from the 1965 Ford High Performance Catalog (for ordering thru Ford dealers)
Quote from the catalog:
"Figures were obtained from actual dynometer test programs by Shelby-American Inc."
Stock 289 w/ one 4V 232 @ 5,500 rpm (A code I'm supposing)
289 Performance 4v kit 286 @ 6,500 rpm (I think the carb is a Holley 715 w/ the Cobra Hi Rise manifold.
289 w/ two 4V carbs kit. 276 @ 6,000 rpm
289 w/ three 2V carbs kit 314 @. 6,500 rpm
289 w/ four 2V carbs (Weber 48 IDA carbs) kit 345 @ 6,500 rpm. ......"
Those numbers mirror my own experiences and observations.
Z
"You're killing me Smalls" 8)
pretty good result with those weber ! i didn't expect so much difference !
Ok let's say I have some disposable income I wanted to throw at a set of these. Since they don't have to be exact copies of a 50year old set up, can anyone recommend some ideas
First it's going to be on a stock 289hipo in my GT350H with an automatics. I can hear the gnashing of teethand the wailing already, but it's something I wanted to do ever since I saw the in the accessories catalog back in the early 70.
Has anybody used them with this combo?
Also Jim Inglese name comes up a lot, I like that he says he can tune them to the correct specs for the car. This will be a driver, not a "push it out the trailer and back in "kind of car.
Wife says I'm getting senile but what does she know. She the one who would not let me buy a Cobra, instead she wanted a house. Even my argument of "we can sleep in the car, but we didn't do the trick, even though now she admits we probably should have bought the Cobra
Jim Inglese
I'd start with Jim Inglese http://jiminglese.com/ (http://jiminglese.com/)
Emailed him with a question about air filters for my setup (don't use 'em). He responded personally within about 10 minutes. Now that may be a fluke because he happened to be sitting at his computer at the time, but if I was going to invest in a second Weber setup it would be so worth it to be able to speak with the guy who actually set them up and not be routed through some automated telephone system or a know-nothing lackey. Turns out his shop is only an hour and a half away from me so I'm planning to bring the car over one day and have him give it a once over (even though it seems to be running fine). It can't hurt to watch and learn from one of the best.
Quote from: kjspeed on April 02, 2018, 09:33:23 AM
I'd start with Jim Inglese http://jiminglese.com/ (http://jiminglese.com/)
Emailed him with a question about air filters for my setup (don't use 'em). He responded personally within about 10 minutes. Now that may be a fluke because he happened to be sitting at his computer at the time, but if I was going to invest in a second Weber setup it would be so worth it to be able to speak with the guy who actually set them up and not be routed through some automated telephone system or a know-nothing lackey. Turns out his shop is only an hour and a half away from me so I'm planning to bring the car over one day and have him give it a once over (even though it seems to be running fine). It can't hurt to watch and learn from one of the best.
I would highly recommend him to you for your project.
I purchased a brand new set up from Jim Inglese back in the 1980s for 6S2297. I sold the car long ago. The current owner still runs them, and they have been as trouble free as any single carb. set up.
Quote from: Brant on April 02, 2018, 10:29:16 AM
I purchased a brand new set up from Jim Inglese back in the 1980s for 6S2297. I sold the car long ago. The current owner still runs them, and they have been as trouble free as any single carb. set up.
A Weber set up is MUCH easier to maintain then any Holley. There are no gaskets in the fuel bowls to dry out and leak like a Holley would do eventually and the needle and seat is a glass ball (or will be changed to one by Inglese) and there is no Viton to stick closed or freeze open. There are no power valves to blow out.
Once dialed in, they keep that setting.
There are some new idle air/fuel combinations that are available now that weren't in the '60s. That enables the idle richness to be leaned down to something reasonable by comparison.
The comparison previously was like the idle on a factory set Holley DP series carb with the idle set very rich from the factory because of the intended use with open headers.
You can get the idle richness down to about what a stock 1850 Holley is now, plus or minus.
If it is still too rich for your liking then the only other thing to do is to go to an eight stack electronic fuel injection system but that will put about another 2500 on to the cost of the system.