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Title: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: CharlesTurner on November 07, 2020, 10:31:52 AM
There's a few articles coming out now on the 5S003 re-restoration.  Here's the parts layout photo recreation we did before converting 003 back to a GT350.

To add... it was a bit eerie laying these parts out and recreating the moment.  We could almost imagine what it was like at Shelby American that day... very much like the entire GT350 conversion process.
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: Dan Case on November 07, 2020, 10:51:20 AM
Excellent.
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: bluemax on November 07, 2020, 11:50:26 AM
Without out a doubt, one of the best articles I have ever seen in the magazine. Great job on the resto... twice! Charles. Hoping to see the car in person next year.
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: Greg on November 07, 2020, 12:11:15 PM
Thats awesome Charles, great job!
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: 2112 on November 07, 2020, 12:56:34 PM
Very cool.

In the vintage picture, what are the two white things sitting on the package tray on either side of the spare tire cover?
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: JD on November 07, 2020, 01:08:11 PM
Quote from: 2112 on November 07, 2020, 12:56:34 PM
Very cool.

In the vintage picture, what are the two white things sitting on the package tray on either side of the spare tire cover?

I was thinking they're the over-ride covers that were inside the car?

Didn't the battery get moved to the trunk? isn't the coil laying on the spare tire cover to run power from the battery to the front?
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: DRGT350 on November 07, 2020, 05:54:45 PM
Charles,
Do the oil pan fins and Cobra letters on the pan get polished too ?
Can't tell from the picture-

Dave
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: CharlesTurner on November 07, 2020, 05:55:49 PM
Quote from: JD on November 07, 2020, 01:08:11 PM
I was thinking they're the over-ride covers that were inside the car?

Didn't the battery get moved to the trunk? isn't the coil laying on the spare tire cover to run power from the battery to the front?

Right, 003 didn't have the traction bar covers.

Yes on the battery cable.  In the original photo the tire cover is upside down.  The original tire cover for 003 didn't look 'new' on the bottom (blackish areas from tire rub), so we chose to lay it out top up.

I probably would remove the traction bar brackets if I had to do it over... we didn't install those on 003 for the re-restoration, the originals were left in place.  We have another photo that shows a rear differential like the original photo, although for the re-restoration, we chose to leave the detroit locker in place.
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: CharlesTurner on November 07, 2020, 05:56:58 PM
Quote from: DRGT350 on November 07, 2020, 05:54:45 PM
Charles,
Do the oil pan fins and Cobra letters on the pan get polished too ?
Can't tell from the picture-

Dave

Yep.  Jim Cowles did an amazing job re-restoring the oil pan.  It had blems/chips in the fins.  He fixed all of that and machined/polished everything like new.
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: DRGT350 on November 07, 2020, 06:26:08 PM
Thank you Charles
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: CharlesTurner on November 07, 2020, 06:52:19 PM
Quote from: bluemax on November 07, 2020, 11:50:26 AM
Without out a doubt, one of the best articles I have ever seen in the magazine. Great job on the resto... twice! Charles. Hoping to see the car in person next year.

Thanks, it was definitely a team effort, so I won't take sole credit.

I also thought it was an amazing article, Donald Farr, along with Al Rogers' photos created a work of art!
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: alexgt350h on November 08, 2020, 12:16:09 PM
The display you guys had at French Lick was outstanding.
When and where will the Donald Farr article come out?
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: Special Ed on November 08, 2020, 01:31:28 PM
Dont see battery tray & neg cable in photo.  Did anybody post any photos of the 003 display with the car?
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: Bob Gaines on November 08, 2020, 01:39:33 PM
Quote from: Special Ed on November 08, 2020, 01:31:28 PM
Dont see battery tray & neg cable in photo.  Did anybody post any photos of the 003 display with the car?
Look harder they are on top of the tire cover.
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: J_Speegle on November 08, 2020, 01:57:35 PM
Quote from: alexgt350h on November 08, 2020, 12:16:09 PM
The display you guys had at French Lick was outstanding.
When and where will the Donald Farr article come out?

Already published in the Mustang Times -  MCA's monthly magazine
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on November 08, 2020, 02:17:11 PM
Anyone struck by the fact the parts have become too rare, precious and perfectly restored to merely set on the bare pavement for a photo?
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: alexgt350h on November 08, 2020, 02:31:01 PM
Anyone have a copy of Mustang times with 003 article I could get?
Not a member of MCA.
Brent

A SAAC member sent me article --- THANKS
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: CharlesTurner on November 08, 2020, 06:28:52 PM
Quote from: alexgt350h on November 08, 2020, 02:31:01 PM
Anyone have a copy of Mustang times with 003 article I could get?
Not a member of MCA.
Brent

Unless someone can send their copy, I don't think there's any other way to get one.  MCA does offer a digital membership for $35 that would give access to the magazine online. 

Look for an article in the Shelby American coming out soon... Rick also did a really nice spread on the car.
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: CharlesTurner on November 08, 2020, 06:31:46 PM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on November 08, 2020, 02:17:11 PM
Anyone struck by the fact the parts have become too rare, precious and perfectly restored to merely set on the bare pavement for a photo?

Yes, no doubt!  Keep in mind that almost all of those parts for 003 are the earliest original versions, making them even more rare than "typical" '65 GT350 parts.  No way were we going to put them on concrete.   :)
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: 67 GT350 on November 09, 2020, 07:57:13 PM
https://www.hemmings.com/stories/2020/11/09/a-decade-of-difference-in-the-chevy-camaro-1967-z-28-vs-1977-z28?refer=news&utm_source=edaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-11-09
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: Royce Peterson on November 10, 2020, 08:49:53 AM
Like!
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: mark p on November 10, 2020, 12:55:54 PM
Quote from: CharlesTurner on November 08, 2020, 06:31:46 PM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on November 08, 2020, 02:17:11 PM
Anyone struck by the fact the parts have become too rare, precious and perfectly restored to merely set on the bare pavement for a photo?

Yes, no doubt!  Keep in mind that almost all of those parts for 003 are the earliest original versions, making them even more rare than "typical" '65 GT350 parts.  No way were we going to put them on concrete.   :)

Super job all the way around!  8) thanks for posting that here.
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: PerryH on November 10, 2020, 01:54:53 PM
No shock tower "export brace" with the reinforcement at the cowl (in both the vintage and new photos), or was that a later addition?
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: Bob Gaines on November 10, 2020, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: PerryH on November 10, 2020, 01:54:53 PM
No shock tower "export brace" with the reinforcement at the cowl (in both the vintage and new photos), or was that a later addition?
Nether are the reinforced upper shock braces ether. I believe at the point in time when the layout was done that the items in the Ford installed export package were not considered relevant and only the Shelby added items were. Just my thoughts .
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: CharlesTurner on November 10, 2020, 02:28:37 PM
Quote from: PerryH on November 10, 2020, 01:54:53 PM
No shock tower "export brace" with the reinforcement at the cowl (in both the vintage and new photos), or was that a later addition?

The first 3 cars did not come with the export brace.  5S003 is the only street production GT350 sold without an export brace.

The export brace and reinforced shock tower caps were subsequently installed by Ford on the assembly line... common misconception that these were added at Shelby American.
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: PerryH on November 10, 2020, 07:02:10 PM
Ah.  That makes sense.  I recall Cantwell saying they spotted those braces at the factory and specified their inclusion on their fastbacks.
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: 66GT350 on November 11, 2020, 10:42:22 AM
Just curious, who insatlled the export brace and reinforecement plate to the other two cars? I understand San Jose Ford plant did the follow on cars after the first three.
Regards,
Phil
Title: Re: 65 parts layout photo recreation
Post by: CharlesTurner on November 11, 2020, 02:12:05 PM
Quote from: 66GT350 on November 11, 2020, 10:42:22 AM
Just curious, who insatlled the export brace and reinforecement plate to the other two cars? I understand San Jose Ford plant did the follow on cars after the first three.
Regards,
Phil

My guess is the export brace was only installed and not the reinforcement.  I'm not as familiar with 001/002 as I am with 003 though.