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Title: Deceptive 69 70 Shelby parts auction shows a pattern for other year parts
Post by: Bob Gaines on September 26, 2020, 12:59:02 PM
Here is a example of on purpose description manipulation to give a uninformed buyer the feeling that the part represented is legitimate. Click on this link  https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-1970-Shelby-GT350-GT500-1966-67-Galaxie-w-427-ORIG-AMMETER-JUNCTION-BLOCK/164402033969  This is just ONE example of many other of his auction descriptions with mis information meant to misdirect by the seller Andrew at magmustangs .  In this case it is a Shelby terminal block typically used on 67-70 Shelby's. In this case his auction description is meant to imply that a 70's replacement part different in appearance to the ones used on the assembly line is the right one for your 69/70 Shelby .Typically the right one is what Ford used on the assemblyline or a close reproduction.  This auction part will function for the application but at the starting bid of 89.00 a new 10.00 autoparts store replacement will work too and be just as correct in comparison . He knows better because this has been pointed out in the past by me. I have been blocked from contacting the seller no doubt partly because of the numerous times I have pointed out his mistakes some of which are on purpose and others probably not. He also reads these threads so no doubt upset for me bringing attention to his malicious deceptive auction descriptions . In this case the service part is genuine Ford as he proclaims in bold print so as to increase comfort level ,although a different shaped replacement. He even boast of the engineering number . As he proclaims " Molded D0SB-14448-A" . The first two letter and number D=70's decade and 0 =year indicates it is for a 70's era car and not a 69 or 70 converted from a 69 shelby. Nowhere does he elude that it is specifically for a 69/70 Shelby. These things cover him if and when someone disputes the description . He is covered for the application by saying just enough to get a misdirected point across. At a 89.00 he is looking to make a out of the park home run out of a otherwise worthless used part. This car used to not be this way but over the years has gotten worse and worse with his descriptions. I don't begrudge him trying to make a living but I do take exception when he tries to do it dishonestly .He does sell with honest descriptions on some of his auctions but buyer beware and be informed. Do not take him at his word .Double and triple check before buying from this seller. There have been warning threads before and think it is about time to bring it to the top again. You may wonder about the 100% satisfaction level. He is selling to mostly uninformed buyers many of which no doubt never know they have be been conned . Others may find out later but it is too late or when filling a claim his description says just enough to cover him and so dispute is dropped. In the case a buyer realizes he has been conned many times it is easier to give a refund and move on . The refund prevents the negative feedback. The percentages are with him and with 17000 auctions he wins vastly more than he loses. FYI 17000 are only the ones that give him feedback at all . Many buyers don't or forget to leave feedback so his number is many more times . If just one person keeps from having a bad experience by bringing attention to this seller it will be all worth it.  This of course this is all just my opinion. Those that know me can trust that I know what I am talking about and others that don't hopefully will be prompted to confirm further.
Title: Re: Deceptive 69 70 Shelby parts auction shows a pattern for other year parts
Post by: Bob Gaines on September 26, 2020, 01:10:43 PM
Here is a very authentic Repro of the correct terminal block that even has the correct C5VB engineering number molded in . This is like what was used on 67-70 Shelby's and  it sells for 34.95 from Branda Performance. Used nice condition originals typically sell in the 75.00 range.
Title: Re: Deceptive 69 70 Shelby parts auction shows a pattern for other year parts
Post by: shelbymann1970 on September 26, 2020, 01:21:43 PM
Andrews profile. Gary

http://www.saacforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=495
Title: Re: Deceptive 69 70 Shelby parts auction shows a pattern for other year parts
Post by: shelbymann1970 on September 26, 2020, 01:33:06 PM
I have been fortunate to only been bitten once and it was from Dave Irwin of pony car specialists down in Ohio. As a past satisfied customer of his when I restored a 69 R-code Mach1 before the internet I bought a 69 "Shelby" console ashtray from him. Paid a 100 bucks for it circa early 2000s. Opened the box. Quick look and put it back in. A few weeks later pulled it out and realized it was a fake really close from another app. No circular holes for the console light. A little deeper. When I contacted him it was "too bad". Since he wasn't some novice Mustang guy I figured he knew it wasn't real. He lost all business from me from that point on. At least I salvaged the spring for my original ash tray.... Gary
Title: Re: Deceptive 69 70 Shelby parts auction shows a pattern for other year parts
Post by: Greg on September 27, 2020, 08:46:13 AM
I have seen the same thing from him and stay away, this practice will cost him his business at some point.  If we put the word out he will stop doing it.
Title: Re: Deceptive 69 70 Shelby parts auction shows a pattern for other year parts
Post by: 557 on September 27, 2020, 09:56:09 AM
Sad that some people will throw away their integrity for a couple bucks.Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Deceptive 69 70 Shelby parts auction shows a pattern for other year parts
Post by: Shelby_r_b on September 27, 2020, 01:41:09 PM
+1 and thanks for the heads up, Bob!
Title: Re: Deceptive 69 70 Shelby parts auction shows a pattern for other year parts
Post by: Dan353 on September 27, 2020, 05:32:00 PM
He did the same thing for a 69/70 proportioning valve said it was NOS brand new in the box. Had rust stains from clamp and plier marks. I caled him on it he has since change his description