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Title: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: KShane on September 04, 2020, 01:38:45 PM
What is the correct air cleaner decal for a 5/12/67 SA completion?
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: JD on September 04, 2020, 01:51:00 PM
The primary one is the COBRA dark blue on off-white, (bottom one is good reference for original - might have been paper) there is also another smaller "Ford" sticker about 180 degrees from it on top of the chrome lid.

Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: T-Bone68 on September 04, 2020, 04:41:30 PM
Should the Autolite sticker be there, 180deg from the COBRA sticker?

Pictured in this article, that explicitly says you can share this link in forums.
https://www.diyford.com/shelby-mustang-history-1967-gt350-gt500-longer-shelby/
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: Vernon Estes on September 04, 2020, 05:04:46 PM
Just FYI if you need one..this is the last one ive got..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-1967-Shelby-American-GT350-Mustang-Air-Cleaner-Decal-Cobra-GT500-NOS/143699457936?hash=item217527b790:g:pWoAAOSwzOJfRUkR

Kind regards,
Vern
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: Bob Gaines on September 04, 2020, 06:11:29 PM
Quote from: T-Bone68 on September 04, 2020, 04:41:30 PM
Should the Autolite sticker be there, 180deg from the COBRA sticker?

Pictured in this article, that explicitly says you can share this link in forums.
https://www.diyford.com/shelby-mustang-history-1967-gt350-gt500-longer-shelby/
The article has useful and interesting information but also has some information that is not accurate. You should have the Cobra sticker in the front and a small sticker in the back on the 67 GT350. NPD sells a repro of the small sticker on pg 325  . Part number D-112. The Autoite sticker and or the HIPO sticker were not typically used. FYI the Cobra sticker was also used on the 428 MKIII Cobra single four barrel Hipo type aircleaner .
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: J_Speegle on September 04, 2020, 08:40:59 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on September 04, 2020, 06:11:29 PM
The article has useful and interesting information but also has some information that is not accurate.................

+1

Yes even includes/continues to repeat, the urban legend that "KD" = "knockdown"   ::)
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: T-Bone68 on September 05, 2020, 12:59:34 AM
Thanks Bob, Jeff, JD... Your advice is always appreciated. 

And Vern... already bought one of yours. :)  thanks!
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: JD on September 05, 2020, 08:26:33 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on September 04, 2020, 06:11:29 PM
The article has useful and interesting information but also has some information that is not accurate. You should have the Cobra sticker in the front and a small sticker in the back on the 67 GT350. NPD sells a repro of the small sticker on pg 325  . Part number D-122. The Autoite sticker and or the HIPO sticker were not typically used. FYI the Cobra sticker was also used on the 428 MKIII Cobra single four barrel Hipo type aircleaner .

I think you meant to type D-112 for the C7 ('67) part,
https://www.npdlink.com/product/decal-part-number-air-cleaner-c7zf-9600-f-located-at/125599?backurl=search%2Fproducts%3Fsearch_terms%3DD-112%26top_parent%3D200001%26year%3D

not D-122 for the D1 ('71) boss 351 part?
https://www.npdlink.com/product/decal-air-cleaner-autolite-replacement-filters/125609?backurl=search%2Fproducts%3Fsearch_terms%3DD-122%26top_parent%3D200001%26year%3D
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: JD on September 05, 2020, 11:04:10 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on September 04, 2020, 06:11:29 PM
The article has useful and interesting information but also has some information that is not accurate.................

not all of the images are of 100% representations of "correct", those are hard for authors to find.  Some of the content maybe correct for the point being illustrated, but not necessarily for all the content that is in the image.

This is why guys like Bob, Jeff and others caution just duplicating "show cars".

Nice restorations may not always be accurate - if that is what you are looking for.
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: Bob Gaines on September 05, 2020, 01:13:02 PM
Quote from: JD on September 05, 2020, 08:26:33 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on September 04, 2020, 06:11:29 PM
The article has useful and interesting information but also has some information that is not accurate. You should have the Cobra sticker in the front and a small sticker in the back on the 67 GT350. NPD sells a repro of the small sticker on pg 325  . Part number D-122. The Autoite sticker and or the HIPO sticker were not typically used. FYI the Cobra sticker was also used on the 428 MKIII Cobra single four barrel Hipo type aircleaner .

I think you meant to type D-112 for the C7 ('67) part,
https://www.npdlink.com/product/decal-part-number-air-cleaner-c7zf-9600-f-located-at/125599?backurl=search%2Fproducts%3Fsearch_terms%3DD-112%26top_parent%3D200001%26year%3D

not D-122 for the D1 ('71) boss 351 part?
https://www.npdlink.com/product/decal-air-cleaner-autolite-replacement-filters/125609?backurl=search%2Fproducts%3Fsearch_terms%3DD-122%26top_parent%3D200001%26year%3D
Thanks JD . I amended my typo.
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: cascade-classics on December 16, 2020, 12:51:24 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on September 04, 2020, 06:11:29 PM
Quote from: T-Bone68 on September 04, 2020, 04:41:30 PM
Should the Autolite sticker be there, 180deg from the COBRA sticker?

Pictured in this article, that explicitly says you can share this link in forums.
https://www.diyford.com/shelby-mustang-history-1967-gt350-gt500-longer-shelby/
The article has useful and interesting information but also has some information that is not accurate. You should have the Cobra sticker in the front and a small sticker in the back on the 67 GT350. NPD sells a repro of the small sticker on pg 325  . Part number D-112. The Autoite sticker and or the HIPO sticker were not typically used. FYI the Cobra sticker was also used on the 428 MKIII Cobra single four barrel Hipo type aircleaner .

I was going throug the SAAC Convention 43 judging rules for the 67 and on page 8 it states under Engine Compartment Decals "GT350 - Autolite Spark Plug Decal and Cobra Power by Ford decal on air cleaner"   Is this an error? I went with the D-112 (Part number) decal as you specified, not the Autolite Plug decal. 
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: JD on December 16, 2020, 01:10:59 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on September 05, 2020, 01:13:02 PM
Quote from: JD on September 05, 2020, 08:26:33 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on September 04, 2020, 06:11:29 PM
The article has useful and interesting information but also has some information that is not accurate. You should have the Cobra sticker in the front and a small sticker in the back on the 67 GT350. NPD sells a repro of the small sticker on pg 325  . Part number D-122. The Autoite sticker and or the HIPO sticker were not typically used. FYI the Cobra sticker was also used on the 428 MKIII Cobra single four barrel Hipo type aircleaner .

I think you meant to type D-112 for the C7 ('67) part,
https://www.npdlink.com/product/decal-part-number-air-cleaner-c7zf-9600-f-located-at/125599?backurl=search%2Fproducts%3Fsearch_terms%3DD-112%26top_parent%3D200001%26year%3D

not D-122 for the D1 ('71) boss 351 part?
https://www.npdlink.com/product/decal-air-cleaner-autolite-replacement-filters/125609?backurl=search%2Fproducts%3Fsearch_terms%3DD-122%26top_parent%3D200001%26year%3D

Thanks JD . I amended my typo.

In the above post(s) Bob adjusted to the D-112 part number.
Link:
https://www.npdlink.com/product/decal-air-cleaner-part-number-c7zf-9600-f/125599?backurl=search%2Fproducts%3Fsearch_terms%3DD-112%26top_parent%3D200001%26year%3D

Image of correct sticker is the top one in Reply #7 above, and it is shown on the lid with the COBRA sticker 180 degrees away in the second image in reply #1, as Bob G stated.

And yes, I think the sheet maybe incorrect

[quote cascade-classics]
I was going throug the SAAC Convention 43 judging rules for the 67 and on page 8 it states under Engine Compartment Decals "GT350 - Autolite Spark Plug Decal and Cobra Power by Ford decal on air cleaner"   Is this an error? I went with the D-122 (Part number) decal as you specified, not the Autolite Plug decal.
Quote

Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: cascade-classics on December 16, 2020, 04:35:31 PM
Quote from: JD on December 16, 2020, 01:10:59 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on September 05, 2020, 01:13:02 PM
Quote from: JD on September 05, 2020, 08:26:33 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on September 04, 2020, 06:11:29 PM
The article has useful and interesting information but also has some information that is not accurate. You should have the Cobra sticker in the front and a small sticker in the back on the 67 GT350. NPD sells a repro of the small sticker on pg 325  . Part number D-122. The Autoite sticker and or the HIPO sticker were not typically used. FYI the Cobra sticker was also used on the 428 MKIII Cobra single four barrel Hipo type aircleaner .

I think you meant to type D-112 for the C7 ('67) part,

 
https://www.npdlink.com/product/decal-part-number-air-cleaner-c7zf-9600-f-located-at/125599?backurl=search%2Fproducts%3Fsearch_terms%3DD-112%26top_parent%3D200001%26year%3D

not D-122 for the D1 ('71) boss 351 part?
https://www.npdlink.com/product/decal-air-cleaner-autolite-replacement-filters/125609?backurl=search%2Fproducts%3Fsearch_terms%3DD-122%26top_parent%3D200001%26year%3D

Thanks JD . I amended my typo.

In the above post(s) Bob adjusted to the D-112 part number.
Link:
https://www.npdlink.com/product/decal-air-cleaner-part-number-c7zf-9600-f/125599?backurl=search%2Fproducts%3Fsearch_terms%3DD-112%26top_parent%3D200001%26year%3D

Image of correct sticker is the top one in Reply #7 above, and it is shown on the lid with the COBRA sticker 180 degrees away in the second image in reply #1, as Bob G stated.

And yes, I think the sheet maybe incorrect

[quote cascade-classics]
I was going throug the SAAC Convention 43 judging rules for the 67 and on page 8 it states under Engine Compartment Decals "GT350 - Autolite Spark Plug Decal and Cobra Power by Ford decal on air cleaner"   Is this an error? I went with the D-122 (Part number) decal as you specified, not the Autolite Plug decal.
Quote

Thanks JD.  I made the same typo!  I used the D-112 not the D-122.  I corrected my original reply.
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: Jbrooks on December 19, 2020, 01:08:39 PM
Thanks for all the information on this post.  I live learning something new about my car, even if it means that a new parts order is needed.

I will be correcting this on my car, as I have had the wrong stickers on my car (came that way, but correcting it now).
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: Jbrooks on December 20, 2020, 12:28:42 PM
If the Cobra sticker is at the six o'clock position on the air cleaner, what position should the smaller air cleaner sticker be placed?  I saw it mentioned that it should be 180 degrees, but the picture above shows it offset a little (like the 1:30 position). Searching Google, I see it at both positions as I go through the pictures.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: Bob Gaines on December 20, 2020, 12:51:04 PM
Quote from: Jbrooks on December 20, 2020, 12:28:42 PM
If the Cobra sticker is at the six o'clock position on the air cleaner, what position should the smaller air cleaner sticker be placed?  I saw it mentioned that it should be 180 degrees, but the picture above shows it offset a little (like the 1:30 position). Searching Google, I see it at both positions as I go through the pictures.

Thanks in advance.
I believe it was meant to be at the 12 o'clock position but variations happened . Just another example of variations that happen in mass produced conditions.
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: Jbrooks on December 20, 2020, 01:48:33 PM
Thank you Bob. My new stickers are supposed to arrive this week, and I wanted to confirm where to place them. Thanks!
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: Jbrooks on December 24, 2020, 05:36:23 PM
It does touch up the engine bay, and it had to at least gain another 5 hp!  Thanks for the knowledge share.
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: Bob Gaines on December 24, 2020, 06:42:31 PM
Quote from: Jbrooks on December 24, 2020, 05:36:23 PM
It does touch up the engine bay, and it had to at least gain another 5 hp!  Thanks for the knowledge share.
If you are concerned about the correct look of stickers then remove the sticker from the oil breather cap on the valve cover because it did not get one. Also the plaza fiberglass sticker is placed in a out of the ordinary location. It is commonly placed up by the hood latch end of the hood. It varied where it was placed up by the hood latch but I have not ever seen any evidence of it down low where you placed it.If you would like more meant to be friendly and helpful critique let us know.
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: Jbrooks on December 24, 2020, 07:12:30 PM
Bob,

Thanks for the input. Minus the rebuild on the 289 (that I just finished last month), the car is just the way I bought it 6 years ago. Any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: J_Speegle on December 24, 2020, 07:29:19 PM
An earlier discussion (with pictures) on the Plaza sticker location that might help

Looking at your picture (we're getting off thread a bit) a few simple things that jump out that are pretty easy to correct

-Your master cylinder- with lid, and booster - with check valve would have been painted semi-gloss black as a unit (so filter holder/spacer also) off the car before installation.

- Of course the bright colored shocks draw your eyes to them also. Konis of course would not have been original but you likely knew that

- Visible and likely the other freeze plugs would have been installed before the engine was painted.

All offered in an attempt to help and not to belittle the effort or car.
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: Jbrooks on December 24, 2020, 07:40:43 PM
Jeff,

Again, my feelings won't get hurt about differences with my car, so thanks for the input. It's 53 years old and has passed through some hands before me, so I'm not surprised that some things were changed. I really enjoy learning more about my car, so thank you for the information.
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: Bob Gaines on December 24, 2020, 11:03:39 PM
To add to the things Jeff pointed out are the radiator hose hose clamps. They should be the wire type instead of the tower type currently on the car. The bypass hose from the intake to the WP should be painted engine color,The intake bolts appear to be hardware store variety and should be exchange for typical 67 289 cast iron intake bolts and since thyey were reused from when the cleveland engine plant made the change the bolts should be painted Engine blue and evidence of tool marks from the work would be normal. If you can't find some original then AMK will have replacements suitable for most  levels of concours competition (or your peace of mind).Another easy fix is correct hardware needed for the battery hold down (correct nuts).Nuts should have spinning attached washer. You have a 1970 and later power steering) dipstick. A nice repro is available if a original (writing on thumb pull) is not available. I would consider exchanging your after market positive battery cable with a correct Marti replacement available from Virginia Classic Mustang or NPD. All easy fixes .I'll let others critique further .
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: Jbrooks on December 29, 2020, 07:14:40 PM
Bob,
Do you have a picture of bypass hose that is painted?  I've tried finding a picture on google, but I haven't found one. Thanks for the input.
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: J_Speegle on December 29, 2020, 07:39:39 PM
Quote from: Jbrooks on December 29, 2020, 07:14:40 PM
Bob,
Do you have a picture of bypass hose that is painted?  I've tried finding a picture on google, but I haven't found one. Thanks for the input.

Not Bob but here is a picture. Age and manipulation has cracked and allowed some paint to chip off in this example. Unfortunately pictures from the era were mostly black & white and the detail does not show up 

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/5/6-010316122853-52831773.jpeg)
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: JD on December 29, 2020, 10:43:29 PM
Here are a couple restored cars, sorry top radiator hose is blocking the view, can see some of the ends
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: Skidado on February 22, 2021, 08:22:49 AM
 "...the HIPO sticker [was] not typically used."

Does this mean that the white and blue COBRA sticker was used on most, but not all '67 GT350s?  Did some come from SA with the 289 High Performance sticker on the air cleaner lid?

Which one would you expect to see on #2751?

Guidance here much appreciated.

David.
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: JD on February 22, 2021, 08:33:52 AM
Quote from: Skidado on February 22, 2021, 08:22:49 AM
"...the HIPO sticker [was] not typically used."

Does this mean that the white and blue COBRA sticker was used on most, but not all '67 GT350s?  Did some come from SA with the 289 High Performance sticker on the air cleaner lid?

Which one would you expect to see on #2751?

Guidance here much appreciated.

David.

The blue on white COBRA version
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: T-Bone68 on March 19, 2023, 04:05:27 PM
Just capturing a relevant data point.  From the current BAT auction of Dave Mathews / Colin Comer owned "SAAC Unrestored-Class-Winning 1967 Shelby Mustang GT350" #3002.  I'm sure multiple versions went out the door over the year of production.
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: TLea on March 19, 2023, 05:03:30 PM
Unrestored is a broad paintbrush. Likely decal was changed by PO just like hose clamps at filter
Title: Re: 1967 GT350 air cleaner decal
Post by: Bob Gaines on March 19, 2023, 05:13:25 PM
Quote from: TLea on March 19, 2023, 05:03:30 PM
Unrestored is a broad paintbrush. Likely decal was changed by PO just like hose clamps at filter
+1 . Great car but  some things got changed. Spark plug wires also were replaced.