I have a set of original 10 spokes, I went to install reproduction centers on them. I could not get the backing plate to fit, it is clearly too big. Any suggestions?
I will say this is why I am fed up with repoop products!
Make a circular mark on the plate to the required size. Take to bench grinder working around otter edge trimming to the new size. I did this and worked out for me
I had the same problem. I just ground them down as described until they fit.
Thats what I was thinking, I wonder why they are so off? Thats why I asked, I wanted to see if this was the "normal" for this part. Or maybe they are set up for repro wheels.
Quote from: 67 GT350 on April 21, 2020, 04:55:54 PM
Thats what I was thinking, I wonder why they are so off? Thats why I asked, I wanted to see if this was the "normal" for this part. Or maybe they are set up for repro wheels.
They are probably set up for the repro wheels. It seems to me I had heard that Scott Drake are aware of it .
Better too big and remove material, than too small and SOL. The supplier may have made too large to reduce risk the plates being too small. It might be how they addressed the manufacture tolerance differences between to the OEM wheels and the repops.
Best of luck
Cory
Quote from: 6s1640 on April 21, 2020, 05:45:23 PM
Better too big and remove material, than too small and SOL. The supplier may have made too large to reduce risk the plates being too small. It might be how they addressed the manufacture tolerance differences between to the OEM wheels and the repops.
Best of luck
Cory
I think they just wanted them to fit their wheels and no one else's . The hosers
Quote from: Bob Gaines on April 21, 2020, 05:40:35 PM
Quote from: 67 GT350 on April 21, 2020, 04:55:54 PM
Thats what I was thinking, I wonder why they are so off? Thats why I asked, I wanted to see if this was the "normal" for this part. Or maybe they are set up for repro wheels.
They are probably set up for the repro wheels. It seems to me I had heard that Scott Drake are aware of it .
They fit the same way on the repro 10 spokes.
OK then I will fix it.
The bottom line is they sell us repro junk. FINAL ANSWER.
I like how everyone is still amazed !
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Well aren't you smart. For a few of us the last time we bought this stuff was at a Ford dealer and parts like that fit. I would say about 75% of parts for these cars are what I would call, defective, and someone said Old Scotty D, Mr. Twain, China, etc is aware of it.....And some call that good!
I got a second set last year from Branda and in that set the backing plates fit fine.
I'm wondering if the Magstar and 10 spoke backing plates are getting mixed up? I don't think they are the same dimensions?
The accuracy of reproduction parts has always been an issue but there are so many parts how can a 20 year old kid know what's right for a 50 year old vehicle?
Complaints should go directly to the retailers. Folks like Branda honestly try to get it right the first time.
Quote from: Bob Gaines on April 21, 2020, 07:01:54 PM
Quote from: 6s1640 on April 21, 2020, 05:45:23 PM
Better too big and remove material, than too small and SOL. The supplier may have made too large to reduce risk the plates being too small. It might be how they addressed the manufacture tolerance differences between to the OEM wheels and the repops.
Best of luck
Cory
I think they just wanted them to fit their wheels and no one else's . The hosers
C'mon now..... no reason to use the ' H ' word ......
They are on the car now! I followed the advise and used my grinder, they came out OK....One thing odd there is a pin that goes through a hole on the plate, but the pin is too short on the center, LOL None were long enough....I just laugh....Anyway, I have a set of Magstars and those plates are totally different....there is no way they would mix them up.
I seem to remember many years ago when I got a set of centers through Ford, that the wheel centers might have been plastic? These are metal...Anyway, its all good now!
Your guess is as good as anyones on the reason the backing plates are wrong. Fortunately they are hidden from view.
Quote from: 67 GT350 on April 22, 2020, 10:35:49 PM
They are on the car now! I followed the advise and used my grinder, they came out OK....One thing odd there is a pin that goes through a hole on the plate, but the pin is too short on the center, LOL None were long enough....I just laugh....Anyway, I have a set of Magstars and those plates are totally different....there is no way they would mix them up.
I seem to remember many years ago when I got a set of centers through Ford, that the wheel centers might have been plastic? These are metal...Anyway, its all good now!
The original centers were plastic.
Quote from: Bob Gaines on April 23, 2020, 08:56:43 AM
Quote from: 67 GT350 on April 22, 2020, 10:35:49 PM
They are on the car now! I followed the advise and used my grinder, they came out OK....One thing odd there is a pin that goes through a hole on the plate, but the pin is too short on the center, LOL None were long enough....I just laugh....Anyway, I have a set of Magstars and those plates are totally different....there is no way they would mix them up.
I seem to remember many years ago when I got a set of centers through Ford, that the wheel centers might have been plastic? These are metal...Anyway, its all good now!
The original centers were plastic.
Over the years I bought three original sets of wheels.
For some inexplicable reason, the most difficult things to get were the lug nuts and center caps so I can't remember ever knowing if I bought originals or reproductions separately?
Seemingly no one would sell them with the wheels? Weird? :o
I don't remember when Ford parts stopped servicing them but I remember lots of folks selling service parts in real Ford boxes. It was like they were hording them or maybe thought they would be collector items?
In any case, I can't even tell you what "original" parts look like for these wheels. I will say that I have never seen plastic retaining washers for the caps but more and more rely on Prof. Gaines for historical accuracy. ;D
Done, picture just beat the SNOW!
I GIVE UP TRYING TO POST PICTURES SO THEY ARE CORRECT.... >:(
Looks great.
Don't worry. JD will probably fix it. ;)
any time ...
Looks good.... also looks like you dropped an inch after bias-ply removal ?
Thank you guys! Yes it did get a little lower with the radials. I had them lying around, 215/65/15, the 10 spokes really came out nice! Anyway, the car is a factory auto, the person who put it together put a 4 speed in it with 3:89 gears....I put it back to the auto, but left the 3:89's in it....right now I cannot drive it on the highway, as just going 55, not only is embarrassing but you get the feeling that something gone blow up! My options are, the obvious, switching to the correct 3:50's, which in several opinions will not make a huge difference. Right now the car has all sorts of power, if I only drive around regular streets, but not good to actually get on the highway. (That sucks).
Options are, AOD, Gears, Overdrive, increase tire hight in the rear.
Gears and possibly tire size, makes the mose sense, but then I will have a "DOG" in town, and that's no fun!
I also have notice through a phone speedometer app that if I am going 52 miles per hour on the dash, the app says I am only doing 40....Speedometer gear, but that's another thing, I know nothing about!
If you are going back to the automatic the AOD is the most recommended. That is probably because it is easiest to install?
Before you decide though, look into a 5R55, 5 speed automatic. It will give you a 3.25 first gear and an od 5th.
You will need an "aftermarket" controller for it since they were intended to be used with the current cpu controlled cars and you need to splice the controller in.
I'm considering going to it but have been busy trying to finish other projects as of late and it isn't that easy to get the information necessary to put it into a car this old...but I'm working on it.
Incidentally, that transmission is what is in the 03 Mustangs that were tested out of the box as 11 second street cars. It likely is worth the effort.