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69 Center Caps , Authentic???

Started by brandosaac, November 22, 2024, 07:26:16 PM

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brandosaac

Im not too familar with 69-70 shelbys
I have a set of center caps , trying to determine if they are originals or repops.
They are plastic and have CCPC S9MS-1130-B number on the back .
 I noticed that Scott Drake / Holley offers a reproduction (catalog part number S9MS-1130-D) , But im not sure if those scott drake ones have any numbers on the back?

thanks

Bob Gaines

Quote from: brandosaac on November 22, 2024, 07:26:16 PMIm not too familar with 69-70 shelbys
I have a set of what appears to be NOS center caps , trying to determine if they are originals or repops. they are plastic and do have S9MS.... numbers on the back

thanks
I have some in the blue and white Ford service marked boxes with the green epoxy and also ones in the plastic sealed Ford service marked plastic bags with the green epoxy. The repros are typically a different color epoxy. With that said once mounted most of the good repros I have seen are good enough to pass for Ford inventory.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

brandosaac

thanks for the info Bob.
If you get a chance, can you tell me if yours have the same numbers on the inside back lip?
I plan on selling these and id hate to advertise them as originals if by any chance they are not

Bob Gaines

#3
Quote from: brandosaac on November 25, 2024, 02:10:14 PMthanks for the info Bob.
If you get a chance, can you tell me if yours have the same numbers on the inside back lip?
I plan on selling these and id hate to advertise them as originals if by any chance they are not
Yes my caps all have the extremely hard to read and small engineering numbers made into the  perimeter upper edge of the plastic mold . The ones that the metal mounting clip frame doesn't obscure you can read. Others are mostly obscured by the metal.  I would be surprised if the repros had that. I think that you can safely say that they are original if they have the engineering numbers . Best of luck with your sale. 
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Special Ed

The old originals and assembly line type have black glue if i remember correctly

Shelbypat

#5
Here a NOS black glued with part number you can barely see.

Patrick
Patrick
Canada

brandosaac

#6
Bob, if its not too much to ask, can you tell me if your original Ford caps with the green glue have that same CCPC letters before the S9MS... number ?

The reason I ask is that i will be soon listing these for sale and id like to list them as accurately as possible..

Bill

Quote from: brandosaac on February 04, 2025, 02:42:40 PMBob, if its not too much to ask, can you tell me if your original Ford caps with the green glue have that same CCPC letters before the S9MS... number ?

The reason I ask is that i will be soon listing these for sale and id like to list them as accurately as possible..

Attached are raw shots of the 4 I own, 3 of which were purchased from your father in 1981 or 1982 (the 1st Tri-State Mustang/Shelby show in East Stroudsburg, PA), the 4th some time in 1984.
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Bill

Quote from: brandosaac on February 04, 2025, 02:42:40 PMBob, if its not too much to ask, can you tell me if your original Ford caps with the green glue have that same CCPC letters before the S9MS... number ?

The reason I ask is that i will be soon listing these for sale and id like to list them as accurately as possible..

Other shots, 4th was purchased from Randy Delisio (just remembered)
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HOW TO IDENTIFY A FORUM TROLL
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brandosaac

#9
Bill thank you so much for the pics and info they answer all my questions, and yes I see the CCPC on yours as well, so mine look to be NOS originals.
 You didnt purchased any from my father , as I have no relation to the Branda family

Bill

Quote from: brandosaac on February 04, 2025, 06:47:33 PMBill thank you so much for the pics and info they answer all my questions, and yes I see the CCPC on yours as well, so mine look to be NOS originals.
 You didnt purchased any from my father , as I have no relation to the Branda family

Sorry, I thought you were "Jr" based on your user name. I humbly apologize


Bill
Instead of being part of the problem, be part of a successful solution.
HOW TO IDENTIFY A FORUM TROLL
https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=16401.0

Bob Gaines

Quote from: brandosaac on February 04, 2025, 02:42:40 PMBob, if its not too much to ask, can you tell me if your original Ford caps with the green glue have that same CCPC letters before the S9MS... number ?

The reason I ask is that i will be soon listing these for sale and id like to list them as accurately as possible..
Yes my caps had all have the extremely hard to read and small engineering numbers made into the  perimeter upper edge of the plastic mold . The ones that the metal mounting clip frame doesn't obscure you can read. Others are mostly obscured by the metal. I have since sold all of mine.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby