Larry Zane friends

[Bob Gaines]

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I believe the R model and the GT40 came from another eccentric - Doc Recknagel. I understand that was a whole other crazy story when Zane and our Randy G. picked those up.

Was this perhaps "Doc" out of Oklahoma?  Late 1980's, had some nice cars.  Was a dentist or a podiatrist.  Showed up at the Mid-America one year with an 18-wheel car hauler with his toys on it.  Then had a few college coeds to "polish" the cars.

OR, do you perhaps mean Rick Nagel out of the DFW area?  He was a real estate wheeler-dealer who bought up a lot of the racing pedigree stuff in the late 1980's, was going to open a museum.  He would operate the cars. He brought a Daytona and a GT40 to Texas Motor Speedway (the original one) one year for the Texas Shelby show.  I've got a photo of the two cars on the track and then one of Shelby climbing out of the Daytona after a few laps.  A great friend of mine assisted in moving some of Nagel's cars for a photo shoot.  My friend said the cars were stashed in garages of the rental homes Nagel had and my friend mentioned some were in "uncomfortable" neighborhoods. 

I remember hearing the Zane name.

Doc Recknagel is/was a dentist in OK. His son still is.

[98SVT - was 06GT]

......OR, do you perhaps mean Rick Nagel out of the DFW area?  He was a real estate wheeler-dealer who bought up a lot of the racing pedigree stuff in the late 1980's, was going to open a museum. 

Nagel had a truck brake business. He scammed a lot of people to donate stuff to his museum. Being another Texas snake oil salesman he and CS got along well. He had connections in Mexico and was able to find a lot of race cars that had gone south. He found the Titus/Ward Camaro/Firebird TA car. Rick decided to buy it. Getting it from Mexico to the US was a long ordeal. It seemed each week he'd call for another 5 grand to pay off someone - added about 20 grand to the car. Jon Ward came and looked at it when it arrived. His comment was "OH S**T you found it". He had built and sold a replica as the original.
There were about 75 posters printed up for the museum with CS and a bunch of cars. A rare piece today.

[rhjanes]

https://obits.nj.com/us/obituaries/southjerseytimes/name/larry-zane-obituary?id=11134183

I believe the R model and the GT40 came from another eccentric - Doc Recknagel. I understand that was a whole other crazy story when Zane and our Randy G. picked those up.

Was this perhaps "Doc" out of Oklahoma?  Late 1980's, had some nice cars.  Was a dentist or a podiatrist.  Showed up at the Mid-America one year with an 18-wheel car hauler with his toys on it.  Then had a few college coeds to "polish" the cars.

OR, do you perhaps mean Rick Nagel out of the DFW area?  He was a real estate wheeler-dealer who bought up a lot of the racing pedigree stuff in the late 1980's, was going to open a museum.  He would operate the cars. He brought a Daytona and a GT40 to Texas Motor Speedway (the original one) one year for the Texas Shelby show.  I've got a photo of the two cars on the track and then one of Shelby climbing out of the Daytona after a few laps.  A great friend of mine assisted in moving some of Nagel's cars for a photo shoot.  My friend said the cars were stashed in garages of the rental homes Nagel had and my friend mentioned some were in "uncomfortable" neighborhoods. 

I remember hearing the Zane name.

Doc Recknagel is/was a dentist in OK. His son still is.

Thanks.  I couldn't remember the last name.  He seemed to be a nice guy.  We were standing around the parking lot of the hotel in Tulsa, probably 1981/2/3 time frame, bench racing.  Heard a large diesel and someone crack a joke about a lost truck driver.  Then we heard "PSSSTttttt...PSSSSStttttt".  We looked at each other and someone said "air-brakes?".  We wandered around the corner to find a 18 wheeler car hauler with a few shelby's and a drag car on it.  "Guess Doc made it....". That was when many of us were driving them, or maybe an open flatbed trailer, to the meets.   

[rhjanes]

......OR, do you perhaps mean Rick Nagel out of the DFW area?  He was a real estate wheeler-dealer who bought up a lot of the racing pedigree stuff in the late 1980's, was going to open a museum. 

Nagel had a truck brake business. He scammed a lot of people to donate stuff to his museum. Being another Texas snake oil salesman he and CS got along well. He had connections in Mexico and was able to find a lot of race cars that had gone south. He found the Titus/Ward Camaro/Firebird TA car. Rick decided to buy it. Getting it from Mexico to the US was a long ordeal. It seemed each week he'd call for another 5 grand to pay off someone - added about 20 grand to the car. Jon Ward came and looked at it when it arrived. His comment was "OH S**T you found it". He had built and sold a replica as the original.
There were about 75 posters printed up for the museum with CS and a bunch of cars. A rare piece today.

Thanks.  I do now remember his business was brakes.  But he also had (low) rent houses.  Ton's of talk of the museum and donations and such.  He had cars stashed at those houses and taking that photo was when my friend helped move some of the cars.  He bought a lot of cars but then it fell apart.   I seem to recall perhaps in the mid to late 1980's and he showed up with a freshly received 1965 GT350 just out of Mexico.  Was on a flat open trailer.   Was that perhaps an R model he'd found?  I guess by the late 1980's the museum went poof and the cars were gone.  I think some had to be returned to owners. 

[Bob Gaines]

......OR, do you perhaps mean Rick Nagel out of the DFW area?  He was a real estate wheeler-dealer who bought up a lot of the racing pedigree stuff in the late 1980's, was going to open a museum. 

Nagel had a truck brake business. He scammed a lot of people to donate stuff to his museum. Being another Texas snake oil salesman he and CS got along well. He had connections in Mexico and was able to find a lot of race cars that had gone south. He found the Titus/Ward Camaro/Firebird TA car. Rick decided to buy it. Getting it from Mexico to the US was a long ordeal. It seemed each week he'd call for another 5 grand to pay off someone - added about 20 grand to the car. Jon Ward came and looked at it when it arrived. His comment was "OH S**T you found it". He had built and sold a replica as the original.
There were about 75 posters printed up for the museum with CS and a bunch of cars. A rare piece today.

Thanks.  I do now remember his business was brakes.  But he also had (low) rent houses.  Ton's of talk of the museum and donations and such.  He had cars stashed at those houses and taking that photo was when my friend helped move some of the cars.  He bought a lot of cars but then it fell apart.   I seem to recall perhaps in the mid to late 1980's and he showed up with a freshly received 1965 GT350 just out of Mexico.  Was on a flat open trailer.   Was that perhaps an R model he'd found?  I guess by the late 1980's the museum went poof and the cars were gone.  I think some had to be returned to owners. 

I bet the R model was 002 that he sold the Shelby Museum in Boulder.There were many cars and memorabilia that I understand that did't get returned to owners.