I've been checking out some of the Facebook Shelby & Ford pages and there are quite a few really cool "Vintage" photos of '67 Shelby's that I wanted to share here and maybe discuss.
A fellow named Duffy Matt posts some really interesting photos over on "Vintage FoMoCo Drag Racing Photos"
Here's one '67 GT350 that immediately caught my attention with the large letter Goodyear tires.
Then I saw the upper scoop light...1 of about 21 Dark Moss Green cars with the USLs. No other info posted.
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/204-190119134139.jpeg)
Surprised no one commented on the DMG GT350 USL car above...
This next one is way over the top...another of Duffy Matt's posts. I think we've seen this car in other vintage photos painted in other less obnoxious colors.
Anyone know the Shelby VIN #?
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/204-200119163946.jpeg)
Richstang, great idea for a thread ! here's "The Judge" in a more subtle hue, I'm sure some one here will come up with the #.
Quote from: honker on January 20, 2019, 05:20:29 PM
Richstang, great idea for a thread ! here's "The Judge" in a more subtle hue, I'm sure some one here will come up with the #.
Hey Mike...that's the one I was thinking of. Looks like factory paint in your added photo.
I'm sure there are a few others of this "The Judge" or "Judge" out there too.
here's one...
Quote from: Richstang on January 20, 2019, 04:43:05 PM
Surprised no one commented on the DMG GT350 USL car above...
This next one is way over the top...another of Duffy Matt's posts. I think we've seen this car in other vintage photos painted in other less obnoxious colors.
Anyone know the Shelby VIN #?
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/204-200119163946.jpeg)
. Pontiacs inspiration??? ::)
here's a few I have in my files, I might have pulled them from the old forum ? you can date some of them by other cars in the shots.
Richstang, are we sticking to '67 Shelbys, or do same year Mustangs qualify ?
My thought was just '67 Shelby's (that's why I posted it in this section).
I wasn't going to limit my posted photos to drag cars. That just where I started.
On the "Snake Bite" can anyone read the last name (Carl -----)?
For the "N.T. Yowel Movers" there is nobody with that last name in the registry
"The Judge" appears to be driven by Glenn Shaw. There are some Shaw's, but none named Glen.
#875 on a parade lap at Riverside in 1968. Posted in Hot Rod last year.
Richstang: Are you sure that, in the first photo, that the color is not Midnight blue?
Quote from: roddster on January 22, 2019, 10:09:53 AM
Richstang: Are you sure that, in the first photo, that the color is not Midnight blue?
I'm not 100% certain, but it looks like Dark Moss Green in my eyes.
I tried some color adjustments to the photo. No matter what changes I made it always has that green tint to the paint.
Here's another on I had in my files, Oliver Sudden '67 GT500. The board behind is an ad for Robie Ford, they were in Dorchester MA. Don't know if this car is from that dealer ?
Mike
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Quote from: Wedgeman on January 24, 2019, 10:41:38 AM
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Look at how close the GT 500 Fender Emblem is to the edge of the Fender.
Quote from: honker on January 22, 2019, 11:06:04 PM
Here's another on I had in my files, Oliver Sudden '67 GT500. The board behind is an ad for Robie Ford, they were in Dorchester MA. Don't know if this car is from that dealer ?
Mike
Hah "Oliver Sudden" reminds me of "Oliver Closeoff"
:P
Could be an early photo of the car with the Goodyear small lettered tire on a steel rim.
1968 Daytona 24 hrs.
I know this car is identified in the registry, I thought this color photo was of value.
regards,
jim p
Quote from: 6R07mi on January 24, 2019, 01:35:10 PM
1968 Daytona 24 hrs.
I know this car is identified in the registry, I thought this color photo was of value.
regards,
jim p
Jim
Would you be willing to share where you came across this color pic? I've only seen black and white photos of this car from Daytona and Sebring.
Thanks
Dave
That's a nice COLOR photo of #2369. I've only found B&W photos at Daytona, never any in color. I'd like to know the source too, if you can recall it Jim.
This is a really sharp B&W rear view on Getty Images.
https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/the-shelby-gt-350-mustang-of-drivers-hugh-kleinpeter-ray-news-photo/112229822
Sorry if posted before.
Jon
Quote from: 1175 on January 24, 2019, 10:11:12 PM
Sorry if posted before.
Jon
Is this white GT500 Mherman2's #2532?
Such a cool photo of the car on the dealer showroom floor!
Another one in the background.
Jon
Jim, thanks for posting that photo of the '67 at Daytona, one I've not seen before !
Here's one of the same car at Sebring '68 I have in my files, not sure where I found it.
Mike
The hoods fit like crap no matter what, right?
roddster, did someone say something about hood fit ? :o missing the lower side scoop as well. Sebring '68
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Quote from: honker on January 25, 2019, 10:18:47 AM
roddster, did someone say something about hood fit ? :o missing the lower side scoop as well. Sebring '68
That looks like a bigger problem than hood fitment at Sebring. Maybe that latch gave out and the hood pins are all that's holding it in place.
It looks a lot tighter in the Daytona picture.
Nice photos Mike!
Quote from: Wedgeman on January 25, 2019, 10:48:20 AM
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I had to look up Puyallop...WA.
Was that a grudge match against a friend or just a fun Saturday night at the track?
Saturday Night at the Drags !!..... ;D
Quote from: Sixx7shelby on January 24, 2019, 08:56:22 PM
Quote from: 6R07mi on January 24, 2019, 01:35:10 PM
1968 Daytona 24 hrs.
I know this car is identified in the registry, I thought this color photo was of value.
Eric della Faille Photograph Collection at Revs Institute® Archives
regards,
jim p
Jim
Would you be willing to share where you came across this color pic? I've only seen black and white photos of this car from Daytona and Sebring.
Thanks
Dave
1971 Sweden....
I recall there were more photos of this car, but don't remember the web site. I'll need to find it for more info (350/500?)
Some '70 Boss 302 influence on the striping?
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/204-250119160653.jpeg)
That paint is,......,..um,.....WOW
Found online.
And another online pic.
From The Interweb
from the web
Quote from: 2112 on January 25, 2019, 07:52:01 PM
from the web
I took the picture of the green 67 at the Monroe (WA) swap meet in 2015. The car was in the general parking lot. ;D
Quote from: Richstang on January 25, 2019, 04:09:36 PM
1971 Sweden....
I recall there were more photos of this car, but don't remember the web site. I'll need to find it for more info (350/500?)
Some '70 Boss 302 influence on the striping?
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/204-250119160653.jpeg)
. BOSS 350.....
Quote from: silverton_ford on January 25, 2019, 07:58:02 PM
Quote from: 2112 on January 25, 2019, 07:52:01 PM
from the web
I took the picture of the green 67 at the Monroe (WA) swap meet in 2015. The car was in the general parking lot. ;D
I remember that one posted on forum 1.0. There was an article written about #2119 in Mustang Monthly Dec 2002.
The owner Brad did a great job weathering the fiberglass nose to look as aged as the rest of the car by 2015.
Quote from: George Schalk on January 25, 2019, 04:33:56 PM
Found online.
That sure look good, even with the wheel covers! It's hard to tell if it is night in the front or Dark Moss in the back.
Here's another photo of this GT500.
Notice no antenna = no radio!
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/204-250119205609.jpeg)
That black with silver up a bunch of posts is 0073
Quote from: silverton_ford on January 25, 2019, 07:58:02 PM
Quote from: 2112 on January 25, 2019, 07:52:01 PM
from the web
I took the picture of the green 67 at the Monroe (WA) swap meet in 2015. The car was in the general parking lot. ;D
Yes! By "Web", I meant 1.0. ;D
Quote from: 2112 on January 25, 2019, 10:07:24 PM
Quote from: silverton_ford on January 25, 2019, 07:58:02 PM
Quote from: 2112 on January 25, 2019, 07:52:01 PM
from the web
I took the picture of the green 67 at the Monroe (WA) swap meet in 2015. The car was in the general parking lot. ;D
Yes! By "Web", I meant 1.0. ;D
Better to post them again on 2.0, than to be lost forever!
Here's a couple from Canada, both photos at St. Jovite track, North of Montreal, Quebec.
the dark car, I have as Gresko ? at St. Jovite Sept. 17th. '67 (couldn't find it in the registry)
The light car is Grenier, GT500 (#00762) also at St. Jovite Oct. 6th. '67 (jives with info in the registry)
Mike
PS: thanks to Richstang we now know the dark car to be # 1427.
I think this was on the old forum ? this is #1387, aprox. '74 (history is in the registry)
Daaamn those are great pictures ... There is something very appealing to the way we were back in the day. :)
Quote from: honker on January 25, 2019, 11:58:14 PM
Here's a couple from Canada, both photos at St. Jovite track, North of Montreal, Quebec.
the dark car, I have as Gresko ? at St. Jovite Sept. 17th. '67 (couldn't find it in the registry)
The light car is Grenier, GT500 (#00762) also at St. Jovite Oct. 6th. '67 (jives with info in the registry)
Mike
Mike, I have the dark car noted as #1427 with the name Yvon Blais noted. I think this info came from a note on forum 1.0.
Rich, thanks for that info on #1427, when I went through my registry (2011) compiling a list of '67s originally sold in Canada, I missed that one ::) have now corrected my files, and my original post.
Mike
The blue lady.
I'm pretty sure this was on the old forum (not exactly from the web), piece from the San Francisco Examiner on Clint Luhman and his GT500.
Tom Yeager's GT 500
Autocross 1972 - #0073
Quote from: JD on January 28, 2019, 03:39:49 PM
Quote from: Tom Honegger on January 28, 2019, 03:21:20 PM
Tom Yeager's GT 500
Looks like he's pulling a trailer
NICE!!!
"T Y 6" on the plate...I wonder what the 6 stood for. Looks like parchment interior inside that Lime Gold GT500.
Any other photos of this Shelby?
Don't know what the 6 stood for. He owned a business in Marion, OH. Many times business owners/families get
plates all the same but with numerals for the "fleet". Just guessing. That pic was taken between Marion, OH and
Mid Ohio, June 1968 on our way to the Trans Am/SCCA Nationals. Tom was racing that weekend. Don't remember
what car...I think a 289 BP Cobra. At Indy SAAC Convention Tom said that GT 500 could "pass everything except
a gas station!
And yes, he was pulling a U-Haul trailer.
Quote from: honker on January 28, 2019, 01:33:56 PM
I'm pretty sure this was on the old forum (not exactly from the web), piece from the San Francisco Examiner on Clint Luhman and his GT500.
This is a great find. You beat Coralsnake to it. I guess he's just looking for '68s?
Quote from: Tom Honegger on January 28, 2019, 04:14:58 PM
Don't know what the 6 stood for. He owned a business in Marion, OH. Many times business owners/families get
plates all the same but with numerals for the "fleet". Just guessing. That pic was taken between Marion, OH and
Mid Ohio, June 1968 on our way to the Trans Am/SCCA Nationals. Tom was racing that weekend. Don't remember
what car...I think a 289 BP Cobra. At Indy SAAC Convention Tom said that GT 500 could "pass everything except
a gas station!
If "TY" and the subsequent TY1, TY2 TY3,TY4,TY5 were already in use then he would have TY6
(also a color adjustment hope that's OK)
Tom thanks for those pics of the Yeager '67, and JD for colour correction ! Yeager had quite a history with Shelby cars. He raced a GT350, Cobra and a Mustang notch, with which he helped Ford clinch the manufacturers championship in the '66 Trans-Am series.
Not to side track the thread, here's a pic of his Cobra, maybe that's on the trailer behind the '67. any one know the CSX ?
Mike
combined the car in Reply #31 and #38 as they are the same car and did some color adjusting...
The trailer was empty. He passed us, so I had a good I.D.
Found this one some where on the 'net. Mario Andretti, caption said, Daytona 24 1970. White '67, no stripes, with what looks like a parchment interior. Haven't looked in my registry yet, to see how many had this combination.
Mike
Quote from: honker on January 30, 2019, 03:19:17 PM
Found this one some where on the 'net. Mario Andretti, caption said, Daytona 24 1970. White '67, no stripes, with what looks like a parchment interior. Haven't looked in my registry yet, to see how many had this combination.
Mike
Nice find Mike!
It appears there were 29 white with parchment '67s built.
Only three white GT350s were made, completed in March.
The rest (26) were white GT500s (I suspect this one in the photo is too).
The Goodyear large letter tire is unexpected on a parchment interior car.
The white parchment cars don't get completed by SA until late January well past when the tires end in production.
This may be a wheel swapped car...unless the Large Letter Goodyear tires were available as replacements?
I was under the impression the molds were changed when they switched to the small letters.EDIT: Since the photo was taken in 1970, in my narrow blinders 67 focus, I forgot they used the large letters in '68 too.
Quote from: honker on January 30, 2019, 03:19:17 PM
Found this one some where on the 'net. Mario Andretti, caption said, Daytona 24 1970. White '67, no stripes, with what looks like a parchment interior. Haven't looked in my registry yet, to see how many had this combination.
Mike
No factory Lemans stripes on any production '67s.
Thanks Rich & shelbydoug, when I said no stripes, I was aware that no production cars had them, I read here somewhere that the stripes were added by dealers, is that correct ? I remember there was also a discussion about that Shelby ad that showed '67s with stripes. Is there any documentation as to the earliest instance when stripes started appearing on cars ? Not disputing anything, just curious, always ready to learn. Does that old thread about '67 stripes exist on this version of the forum, or was it the old one ?
Mike
Quote from: honker on January 30, 2019, 06:15:22 PM
Thanks Rich & shelbydoug, when I said no stripes, I was aware that no production cars had them, I read here somewhere that the stripes were added by dealers, is that correct ? I remember there was also a discussion about that Shelby ad that showed '67s with stripes. Is there any documentation as to the earliest instance when stripes started appearing on cars ? Not disputing anything, just curious, always ready to learn. Does that old thread about '67 stripes exist on this version of the forum, or was it the old one ?
Mike
Added by dealers or owners on '67's.
Stripes by the factory (Shelby American) or Dealers in '65. (These were a tip-of-the-hat to Briggs Cunningham a his cars that competed in competition in the '50's racing around the world and the fact that White with dark blue were the national colors of the USA in international racing).
Stripes on '67's appeared in ads prior to the cars being released, there was a one-page and two-page version of the ad - one ad is the version you posted above. will locate and post the other ...
Here is the ad you posted in color...
and the (Autolite) 2-page version illustration of two Shelby's and a Jag racing...
I've never seen proof of a '67 with factory or dealer installed Lemans stripes. I'm still looking.
There is a photo of a display at Road America / Elkhart Lake, WI showing a White '67 with lemans stripes, a Nightmist Blue '67 without them, and the GT40 P/1064. I would guess the stripes were added by the dealer who put together the display, Northwestern Motor Cars; Milwaukee, WI.
The only one white car shipped there with wheel covers was the GT350 #1681. The SA Invoice and /or Production Order may tell us more.
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/204-300119184434.jpeg)
Quote from: honker on January 30, 2019, 06:15:22 PM
Thanks Rich & shelbydoug, when I said no stripes, I was aware that no production cars had them, I read here somewhere that the stripes were added by dealers, is that correct ? I remember there was also a discussion about that Shelby ad that showed '67s with stripes. Is there any documentation as to the earliest instance when stripes started appearing on cars ? Not disputing anything, just curious, always ready to learn. Does that old thread about '67 stripes exist on this version of the forum, or was it the old one ?
Mike
The last time I spoke to Dave Mathews I asked again, have you found any '67s invoiced with stripes. The answer is no.
Artistic license is what I say about the illustration.
As I recall, even on '65s the original invoiced stripe cars was in the minority. I'm sure Howard has updated the numbers but I want to say 33%. As with anything it depends on whether one sees the glass as half full or half empty but I don't think it's a stretch to say they weren't very popular.
Where I'm from, I don't like anything that makes me more of a target. Stealth is the way I go. Even I could nail those stripes with a Laws rocket from 1/2 mile.
Rich, here's another one I have in my files. could be the same car as in my pic of Andretti at Daytona ? GT500, looks to be parchment interior, inboards, ding on the right by the headlight, are those the same lettered Goodyears ? parked at the Sebring 12 hour, 1969. has a pass on the right side of the window, maybe a competitor ?
Mike
One more, also dated March '69 like the one above, but doesn't show here when I resized, from the same series of pics, I think they might have been on E-Bay ? The person who shot these liked '67s.
I'm not sure if this is Sebring, or my previous post as a matter of fact ! looks like the person standing behind the V-Dub bus is looking at the track, could that be the banking in the distance ? or waiting for the john ;) There is that ball above the tent on the right, wasn't that at Daytona ? I was there for the 24 in '67 but can't remember it.
Mike
^^^^^ looks like it may have a chin spoiler too.
Quote from: honker on January 30, 2019, 08:34:22 PM
Rich, here's another one I have in my files. could be the same car as in my pic of Andretti at Daytona ? GT500, looks to be parchment interior, inboards, ding on the right by the headlight, are those the same lettered Goodyears ? parked at the Sebring 12 hour, 1969. has a pass on the right side of the window, maybe a competitor ?
Mike
Nice follow-up to the other photo!!!
It appears to be a GT500 (1 of 26 in white with parchment interior).
The inboard grille is a vertical version, but still fits within all 26 SA completion dates.
I agree they look like the large letter tires.
Looking at my dealer list only two were sold in Florida, both to JD Ball Ford. (I'm not saying it's definitely one of these two, but the chances are good)
#0467
#0940
I'm pretty sure I had this one up on the old forum. Don't know where it is, could be a race track ?
I do not know the story behind this '67 pic.
I believe this is an original '67 press photo. I've seen it before and always thought it was a very cool pic.
Quote from: George Schalk on January 31, 2019, 12:42:44 AM
I believe this is an original '67 press photo. I've seen it before and always thought it was a very cool pic.
Hello,
This photo is an out-take from the Car and Driver photos that were taken of 0100 for their February 1967 issue.
Thanks,
Eric
Thanks for posting, the lime car in front of Euclid Auto in post #60, can't zoom in on the plate, but it could be an Ohio tag ? Euclid is a suburb of Cleveland. was there a Shelby dealer in Cleveland ?
Yes, there were two; Mayfield Heights and Parma. (There was one in Akron too, near Goodyear Headquarters about 30 miles from Cleveland.)
1969 Ohio Plates were white with blue numbers/letters, note the missing front bumper and rather wide tires - two year old car?
Morton WA
Love seeing your car Craig. You know how to set them up right. 8)
2 more
Quote from: Wedgeman on January 31, 2019, 06:55:03 PM
2 more
Hey! I recognize that photo from the 2015 WA SAAC meet.
The faded dark green GT350 with the blacked out hood paint is #2119 (pictured earlier in this thread in reply #34 and Reply #37.)
I never figured out the ID on the shiny Dark Moss Green car.
Off the web
^^^ is that a '68 - note the light in the lower front fender and the area around the headlight, rear marker light too ?
Rich, that was a great turnout in bellevue! The shiny moss green 67 is a 350. It is #00010. Owned by the original owner, Bruce Van Woudenburg (sp?)
Quote from: 6972boss on February 01, 2019, 01:03:22 AM
Rich, that was a great turnout in bellevue! The shiny moss green 67 is a 350. It is #00010. Owned by the original owner, Bruce Van Woudenburg (sp?)
Did he restore and remove the upper scoop lights? I does seem to have the flat gas lid/emblem
Quote from: 6972boss on February 01, 2019, 01:03:22 AM
Rich, that was a great turnout in bellevue! The shiny moss green 67 is a 350. It is #00010. Owned by the original owner, Bruce Van Woudenburg (sp?)
Thanks, for letting us know that ID number!
:)
Quote from: JD on February 01, 2019, 08:29:19 AM
Quote from: 6972boss on February 01, 2019, 01:03:22 AM
Rich, that was a great turnout in bellevue! The shiny moss green 67 is a 350. It is #00010. Owned by the original owner, Bruce Van Woudenburg (sp?)
Did he restore and remove the upper scoop lights? I does seem to have the flat gas lid/emblem
JD, check out the SA completion date...1/9/67. It's too late for upper scoop lights. It will be very interesting if it actually has a flat gas cap emblem.
We need to see another rear view photo to be sure it's flat.
Quote from: Richstang on February 01, 2019, 09:12:25 AM
JD, check out the SA completion date...1/9/67. It's too late for upper scoop lights. It will be very interesting if it actually has a flat gas cap emblem.
We need to see another rear view photo to be sure it's flat.
Rich, OK - I didn't look in the registry for completion date, sorry.
Quote from: JD on February 01, 2019, 12:28:14 AM
^^^ is that a '68 - note the light in the lower front fender and the area around the headlight, rear marker light too ?
. Yep....
Quote from: JD on February 01, 2019, 12:28:14 AM
^^^ is that a '68 - note the light in the lower front fender and the area around the headlight, rear marker light too ?
there was a '67 version of this teams car, post #6 in this thread.
Mike
Is this the body shell from 2709, or is this parts from it on a 390 Mustang ? ? quite the story on this one in the registry :o
When I found this photo it was dated 2015.
Mike
Quite the hood graphics on that one...Ford version of the Transam "choking chicken"? :o
Quote from: honker on February 02, 2019, 11:50:48 PM
Is this the body shell from 2709, or is this parts from it on a 390 Mustang ? ? quite the story on this one in the registry :o
When I found this photo it was dated 2015.
Mike
I think that was from the "Hot Rod" magazine website. Here's two other views which may also have been posted on forum 1.0.
0073 at Mid Ohio SAAC 15
^^
Beautiful car
Hard to read the type, the article was in a Swedish magazine that Rick Kopec gave me.
Another "Duffy Matt" post...funky 70's custom paint. Anyone recognize the state from the license plate?
I just did some quick searching, possibly Michigan, but it's to an exact match either.
Quote from: rcgt350 on February 04, 2019, 11:34:45 AM
I just did some quick searching, possibly Michigan, but it's to an exact match either.
I've lived in "The Great Lake State" for a long time and have never seen a yellow plate.
the historical plate is white with blue lettering.
jim p
something similar to the car in the woods, was that called lace paint ! ::) I guess it's an acquired taste !
I think this is a '67, just noticed, actually says so on the sign on the ground below the door. those added side markers look like the ones that were on Mopars in '68.
Chicago customrama 1970, wonder where it is today ?
rich,
Saw this on Flicker. Looks very similar.
Quote from: honker on February 04, 2019, 12:59:44 PM
something similar to the car in the woods, was that called lace paint ! ::) I guess it's an acquired taste !
Neither are lace jobs but from around the same time period. Had to be there
Quote from: J_Speegle on February 04, 2019, 01:30:41 PM
Quote from: honker on February 04, 2019, 12:59:44 PM
something similar to the car in the woods, was that called lace paint ! ::) I guess it's an acquired taste !
Neither are lace jobs but from around the same time period. Had to be there
I recall lace used for certain look, as in a paint technique. That 1970 Chicago photo looks like good ole Candy Apple translucent paint over a base coat (likely a silver metal flake. The added shapes and stripes appear to be overlays with various fading techniques.
Quote from: gt350cs on February 04, 2019, 01:21:06 PM
rich,
Saw this on Flicker. Looks very similar.
That's certainly looks like a match, Dennis! The 2011 registry notes at least two cars in Alaska #0909 and #0942. Nothing in the footnotes mention custom paint and 0942 was said to last be seen in a race car configuration.
I would love to see what the first one looked like fresh from the paint booth(or "lean to" or whatever...) 8)
1967 Chicago Autorama: I don't recognize the building. So, might this had been help in Navy Pier?
roddster...no image :(
Quote from: Richstang on February 04, 2019, 02:48:25 PM
Quote from: gt350cs on February 04, 2019, 01:21:06 PM
rich,
Saw this on Flicker. Looks very similar.
That's certainly looks like a match, Dennis! The 2011 registry notes at least two cars in Alaska #0909 and #0942. Nothing in the footnotes mention custom paint and 0942 was said to last be seen in a race car configuration.
I also found two cars sold to an Alaska dealer "John Stepp's Friendly Ford; Anchorage, AK"; #0835 and #1324. Now there's four car to consider for the custom painted yard find! :(
Excellent !!.... ;D
One of my favorite pictures;
One more from the web
Quote from: Wedgeman on February 05, 2019, 11:53:26 PM
One more from the web
Oddly enough I recently saw the same wrong emblem in the center of the grille on a Lime Gold car for sale. #2955
Rich,
I believe that John Stepp's Friendly Ford also received #1326.
Most ALL of them were ahhh personalized or customized thru the years. The heavy right foot and a well placed emblem in the hole in the middle of the grill would be appropriate for the time. Maybe only slightly less these days because of perceived value, still love the car and picture! ;D
Rich,
Thanks for questioning #1326. I did find how I made the error and have corrected my files to indicate it going to Dick Hinderman Ford Imlay City, MI.
Dennis
This '67 GT500 was posted on LMC's site some time back. It looks like someone tried to update it to a pseudo '70 Shelby in the grabber orange.
Never did find the ID#.
I think LMC never releases the VIN.
Unless you buy the car.
Quote from: Richstang on February 07, 2019, 01:40:00 PM
This '67 GT500 was posted on LMC's site some time back. It looks like someone tried to update it to a pseudo '70 Shelby in the grabber orange.
Never did find the ID#.
Based on hints in the LMC description from October 2014, "purchased by its first owner Mr. Jon Moser on 8/29/67", my submission for this competition will be 67410F7A01905.
Quote from: 67_1183 on February 07, 2019, 04:37:17 PM
Quote from: Richstang on February 07, 2019, 01:40:00 PM
This '67 GT500 was posted on LMC's site some time back. It looks like someone tried to update it to a pseudo '70 Shelby in the grabber orange.
Never did find the ID#.
Based on hints in the LMC description from October 2014, "purchased by its first owner Mr. Jon Moser on 8/29/67", my submission for this competition will be 67410F7A01905.
NICE!!!
I looked on their website but nothing was listed for a description, just the photos to scroll through.
How did you find that info?
Quote from: Richstang on February 07, 2019, 08:03:45 PM
NICE!!!
I looked on their website but nothing was listed for a description, just the photos to scroll through.
How did you find that info?
The first entry in my file is dated 6jul2014 and is as you describe, 19 photos and no text.
The second entry is dated 25oct 2014. Same pictures but with text description added.
The links I saved appear to no longer be active. Here is the added text from October 2014:
Quote
1967 Shelby GT500 Project Car
$79,900
Very Original Shelby Project Car, Just Out Of Long Term Ownership
For those of us whose dream cars come from yesterday, we can't just walk into a car dealership and buy one. Cars aren't built to last forever, but restoration can breathe new life into an older vehicle and make it look and run like new. This makes the car more valuable at a time of sale, guaranteeing its future collectible status. With a little time, money, and ambition, this Shelby GT500 is most certainly a worthwhile undertaking.
The Shelby offered here was purchased by its first owner Mr. Jon Moser on 8/29/67. It was delivered in the very popular Lime Gold with black interior. Also very nicely set up with the Kelsey Hayes Magstar wheels and inboard headlights. Inside, the interior is very complete, but is missing the factory radio. The Shelby specific 140 speed and 8k tach, door panels, seats, shelby steering wheel, factory roll bar with safety harnesses, shelby under dash gauges all are present. Upon on inspection one would see it retains the original factory applied paint in the door jambs, under hood and trunk. The undercarriage is very solid and original never having being undercoated. Looking closely one can see the factory paint markings, paint dabs as well as the factory primer dripping off the floors.
The car indicates that 49,113 miles have been traveled all during the very early years. The car would have an engine issue that would sideline it from further use. After the engine failure the car was put away until being sold in 1972 to a young man with big dreams of repairing the car and breathing new life back in it. He had only enough for a downpayment and would take a loan out for the balance that was co signed by his mother. As a welder by trade, with every paycheck he would make his payments until he repaid the loan in full. He would always take good care of his Shelby and keep it stored properly with the intention of restoring it to its former glory one day. The years went by, then marriage and the addition of kids would occupy his full focus. Always with the best intentions of getting to his Shelby one day. Finally the day came when the realization occurred that he would not be able to get to complete his car as he always hoped he would. He made a call to LMC to ask if we had any interest in purchasing his car and of course we did. A deal was completed and the car was loaded on a truck heading to LMC.
To the untrained eye, this vehicle by traditional standards would not be considered. However astute collector would know the potential of this limited production and very collectible Shelby GT500. In summary, this Shelby has a second chance on life, and it is up to the new caretaker to take the Shelby through onto the next chapter.
Engine pic.
I like the Orange
Always pays to grab things and save them on the web as soon as you see them, you snooze, you loose ! :(
Thanks 67-1183 !
Quote from: 67_1183 on February 07, 2019, 08:57:54 PM
Quote from: Richstang on February 07, 2019, 08:03:45 PM
NICE!!!
I looked on their website but nothing was listed for a description, just the photos to scroll through.
How did you find that info?
The first entry in my file is dated 6jul2014 and is as you describe, 19 photos and no text.
The second entry is dated 25oct 2014. Same pictures but with text description added.
The links I saved appear to no longer be active. Here is the added text from October 2014:
Quote
1967 Shelby GT500 Project Car
$79,900
Very Original Shelby Project Car, Just Out Of Long Term Ownership
For those of us whose dream cars come from yesterday, we can't just walk into a car dealership and buy one. Cars aren't built to last forever, but restoration can breathe new life into an older vehicle and make it look and run like new. This makes the car more valuable at a time of sale, guaranteeing its future collectible status. With a little time, money, and ambition, this Shelby GT500 is most certainly a worthwhile undertaking.
The Shelby offered here was purchased by its first owner Mr. Jon Moser on 8/29/67. It was delivered in the very popular Lime Gold with black interior. Also very nicely set up with the Kelsey Hayes Magstar wheels and inboard headlights. Inside, the interior is very complete, but is missing the factory radio. The Shelby specific 140 speed and 8k tach, door panels, seats, shelby steering wheel, factory roll bar with safety harnesses, shelby under dash gauges all are present. Upon on inspection one would see it retains the original factory applied paint in the door jambs, under hood and trunk. The undercarriage is very solid and original never having being undercoated. Looking closely one can see the factory paint markings, paint dabs as well as the factory primer dripping off the floors.
The car indicates that 49,113 miles have been traveled all during the very early years. The car would have an engine issue that would sideline it from further use. After the engine failure the car was put away until being sold in 1972 to a young man with big dreams of repairing the car and breathing new life back in it. He had only enough for a downpayment and would take a loan out for the balance that was co signed by his mother. As a welder by trade, with every paycheck he would make his payments until he repaid the loan in full. He would always take good care of his Shelby and keep it stored properly with the intention of restoring it to its former glory one day. The years went by, then marriage and the addition of kids would occupy his full focus. Always with the best intentions of getting to his Shelby one day. Finally the day came when the realization occurred that he would not be able to get to complete his car as he always hoped he would. He made a call to LMC to ask if we had any interest in purchasing his car and of course we did. A deal was completed and the car was loaded on a truck heading to LMC.
To the untrained eye, this vehicle by traditional standards would not be considered. However astute collector would know the potential of this limited production and very collectible Shelby GT500. In summary, this Shelby has a second chance on life, and it is up to the new caretaker to take the Shelby through onto the next chapter.
Engine pic.
Jeff, "67/1183",
That's fantastic you saved the ad text!!!! Thank you for sharing it with us.
Mike "honker",
You thanked the wrong person.
67_1183 thanks for saving the text from that ad, Rich I misread the posts first time.... ::) corrected
Mike
Cheez Whiz yellow. Cool.....
Text sure doesn't say when the yellow went on.
Here's a couple more shots of the Yowell '67 I found.
I don't know what year this ad appeared for this '67GT500 with inboards, modified 427, and Cragars, probably in period judging by the description ! It's from Sinclair Pontiac/Buick in London, Ontario here in Canada.
Take off in this high performance sports car, Psychedelic red & orange WOW ::) the crowd will go wild ! Wonder where it is today ?
Mike
I can't read the text? Was it used or new? Strange a Pontiac dealer would sell a new Shelby? Price would suggest it's new?
shelbydoug, sorry 'bout the poor quality of that ad, internet find. Here's what the text sez
1967 Shelby GT '500'
Take off in this high performance sports car that
features a modified 427 V-8, 455 h.p 4 speed trans-
mission, Detroit locker rear axle, Cragar mags,
red band wide oval tires, fold down rear
seat, power steering and power disc brakes. The
finish ?......psychedelic red
and orange. Wow ! The crowd $4500
will go wild ! Interested ? Bet-
ter come in soon. Licence L34-309
Gosh I bet those redline tires would really "pop" with the "psychedelic "red and orange paint....
;D
Too bad we don't have a color photo of that one. Or maybe the color is green and the people who painted it were color blind?
:o
Quote from: Bigfoot on February 09, 2019, 01:00:05 PM
Too bad we don't have a color photo of that one. Or maybe the color is green and the people who painted it were color blind?
:o
Maybe they were just wasted? Oh wow man! :o
Quote from: shelbydoug on February 09, 2019, 04:09:17 PM
Quote from: Bigfoot on February 09, 2019, 01:00:05 PM
Too bad we don't have a color photo of that one. Or maybe the color is green and the people who painted it were color blind?
:o
Maybe they were just wasted? Oh wow man! :o
. Pretty sure most people were back then....plus the paint fumes =BAD TRIP!!!
Project ? There was no information just the pic posted.
Another E-bay find, '67 GT500 ? with different driving lights, there was no info on where this was, I can't make out the plate. other than a date '68.
But wait, there's more, just found a better and clearer image in my files, Michigan tags !
Quote from: honker on February 09, 2019, 08:38:17 PM
Project ? There was no information just the pic posted.
Found the white project car! #0124 ...pictures were posted in the NVSAAC photo registry.
http://www.nvsaac.com/Shelby_registry/shelby_picture_registry.htm
Quote from: Richstang on February 11, 2019, 12:55:32 PM
Found the white project car! #0124 ...pictures were posted in the NVSAAC photo registry.
http://www.nvsaac.com/Shelby_registry/shelby_picture_registry.htm
That's a great site.
This one was in my files, might have been on forum 1.0 ? I can't tell if it's a 350 or 500, looks like a '72 Country Squire in the row behind, gives an idea of the time frame.
The front spoiler might help i.d ?
Quote from: honker on April 19, 2019, 09:51:57 PM
This one was in my files, might have been on forum 1.0 ? I can't tell if it's a 350 or 500, looks like a '72 Country Squire in the row behind, gives an idea of the time frame.
The front spoiler might help i.d ?
License plate looks like OHIO 72 (see attached)
Also note the inboard High Beam lights, car maybe Medium Metallic Gray.
That looks like a 350. Eager reporter looking for a scoop..?
350 for sure.
Were there metalflake grey cars with Parchment interiors!
Quote from: 2112 on April 20, 2019, 12:33:07 AM
Were there metalflake grey cars with Parchment interiors!
That interior looks too dark to be parchment. (Maybe just a bit of light reflection on it?)
I was thinking it was a Nightmist Blue GT350. I don't recall it was ever ID'd on forum 1.0.
:-\
(I don't believe there were any factory painted Gray cars with parchment interiors)
That's GT 350 0073, black on black. My wedding day, ready to smokem' away from the church.
Nov. 18, 1972
Quote from: Tom Honegger on April 20, 2019, 01:34:56 PM
That's GT 350 0073, black on black. My wedding day, ready to smokem' away from the church.
Nov. 18, 1972
Thanks TOM!!!
Looks like we were all wrong on the paint color.
The center grill lights are Lucas Flamethrowers. Side emblems are an American flag and a 1968
style Cobra...both on the car when I purchased from original owner.
Quote from: Tom Honegger on April 20, 2019, 05:15:57 PM
The center grill lights are Lucas Flamethrowers. Side emblems are an American flag and a 1968
style Cobra...both on the car when I purchased from original owner.
Beautiful car Tom
Quote from: Bigfoot on April 20, 2019, 06:34:52 PM
Quote from: Tom Honegger on April 20, 2019, 05:15:57 PM
The center grill lights are Lucas Flamethrowers. Side emblems are an American flag and a 1968
style Cobra...both on the car when I purchased from original owner.
Beautiful car Tom
;D
This GT350 was only noted with 'Dave Z'. Not often you see a red faded paint '67.
I like it...except for the white walls. Sorry no ID # known on this one.
Quote from: honker on April 19, 2019, 09:51:57 PM
This one was in my files, might have been on forum 1.0 ? I can't tell if it's a 350 or 500, looks like a '72 Country Squire in the row behind, gives an idea of the time frame.
The front spoiler might help i.d ?
It also has Air Craft Landing Lights for the In Boards.
Quote from: tesgt350 on April 22, 2019, 12:28:40 PM
Quote from: honker on April 19, 2019, 09:51:57 PM
This one was in my files, might have been on forum 1.0 ? I can't tell if it's a 350 or 500, looks like a '72 Country Squire in the row behind, gives an idea of the time frame.
The front spoiler might help i.d ?
It also has Air Craft Landing Lights for the In Boards.
I love those. And the chin spoiler too.
1/4 panel wrinkles.
What's the story with this shot of a GT350 with Jerry Titus & child for crippled children. Did Shelby already support this then ? Might it have been a give away to raise funds ?
(photo: Getty Images)
Mike
There was something about this on the old forum (or a book?).
IIRC Seem to remember the child was related to someone in the Shelby organization and they were helping raise awareness/funds? Hopefully others will know for sure.
Here's a GT350 that was reported to be in Indiana for most of it's life. As of 2014 was in North Carolina and said to be fully restored to factory specs.
The Shelby VIN was not shared on the 'Instagram' post. Since I'm not a member there, I couldn't ask for more info.
These weathered cars have so much character.
^^
That qualifies as character fo sure...
I've posted this one in the "random pictures" thread, but thought it relevant here as well, 2112 has suggested it's Washington.
Mike
I don't know for sure. It just really looks like it.
Found another pic of (2369) at Daytona in '68 8)
Mike
Quote from: honker on October 27, 2019, 01:11:34 PM
Found another pic of (2369) at Daytona in '68 8)
Mike
Outboards have sure grown on me.
Yes, I'm a bit partial. ;D
Bryar 250 Trans-Am, August 6, 1967.
- Phillip
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/134-270118090748.jpeg)
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/8-271019151430.jpeg)
propayne, thanks for the post, I think that's Leslie in the Cougar, I have that pic in my files, looked at it many times and never
noticed the white car with inboards on the left ::) there is also a Cobra far right, it's amazing what one can pick up in the
background of photos !
Mike
Quote from: honker on October 27, 2019, 01:11:34 PM
Found another pic of (2369) at Daytona in '68 8)
Mike
Is there an image of that in color?
Quote from: honker on October 27, 2019, 04:39:57 PM
propayne, thanks for the post, I think that's Leslie in the Cougar, I have that pic in my files, looked at it many times and never
noticed the white car with inboards on the left ::) there is also a Cobra far right, it's amazing what one can pick up in the
background of photos !
Mike
Yeah, so cool what spectators drove to the races when our cars were new.
- Phillip
Quote from: 2112 on February 05, 2019, 11:50:17 PM
One of my favorite pictures;
I think that car could be #910. I just purchased that car this summer and there is a picture of of the second owner with the car. It has those wheels, the car is jacked up in the rear and the owner has long hair and he lived in California. I will get that picture out and post it.
Quote from: Bigfoot on October 27, 2019, 05:57:46 PM
Quote from: honker on October 27, 2019, 01:11:34 PM
Found another pic of (2369) at Daytona in '68 8)
Mike
Is there an image of that in color?
Bigfoot, see posts 15 & 21 , second page of this thread.
Mike
Thnx Mike
Sorting out the mess on my computer ::) and found this photo. '67 GT350 w inboards at Irwindale, was this one of the early road
test cars for magazines ?
Mike
Quote from: honker on March 18, 2020, 11:31:41 PM
Sorting out the mess on my computer ::) and found this photo. '67 GT350 w inboards at Irwindale, was this one of the early road
test cars for magazines ?
Mike
Could be 0050 .
Quote from: honker on March 18, 2020, 11:31:41 PM
Sorting out the mess on my computer ::) and found this photo. '67 GT350 w inboards at Irwindale, was this one of the early road
test cars for magazines ?
Mike
Hello Mike,
The front license plate appears to read "3 C". Car 0050 wore that same license plate in the photos taken by Motor Trend and Sports Car Graphic.
Thanks,
Eric
Sports Car Graphic, March 1967 (I think)
I bought my '67 GT 500 (#0962) from S&C Ford. Had no stripes, inboard lights & hubcaps!
This is the picture that always makes me hold my forehead !!!
BG
Quote from: oldcanuck on March 19, 2020, 07:46:30 PM
This is the picture that always makes me hold my forehead !!!
Yes - What was he thinking ..... adding stripes ::) Just looks wrong and on top of that painting it's Raider colors !!
C' MON JEFF go raiders. Just win baby, just win! ;D
QuoteYes - What was he thinking ..... adding stripes ::) Just looks wrong and on top of that painting it all Raider colors !!
Good one... ;D
TOB
I pray that is anything but a real Shelby.
Quote from: S7MS427 on March 20, 2020, 08:57:49 AM
I pray that is anything but a real Shelby.
That's a "surreal" Shelby.
It definitely is a mix of 67 and 68 parts. I don't think that you need to worry if it is real or not, just think of it as one of those bad dreams that make no sense at all?
More like a nightmare. I'm not a big fan of radical mods. I don't even like Elenore.
He was simply trying to see if Carroll's saying "There's never enough horsepower, just not enough traction" was true.
Quote from: oldcanuck on March 19, 2020, 07:46:30 PM
This is the picture that always makes me hold my forehead !!!
BG
Swedish car. Not a real Shelby. Vin# 8R02T148***.
It has had 22 owners!
Quote from: J_Speegle on March 19, 2020, 07:58:09 PM
Yes - What was he thinking ..... adding stripes ::) Just looks wrong and on top of that painting it's Raider colors !!
Please don't say that...... over time, I prefer that the interior colors are bleeding through to the exterior !
Couple 67's collecting dust
I think I recognize the white car on the left, was a pervious owner from near Akron Ohio and worked for Goodyear?
Quote from: JD on March 22, 2020, 09:06:26 PM
I think I recognize the white car on the left, was a pervious owner from near Akron Ohio and worked for Goodyear?
Wondered if someone might recognize that script on the rear fender can't quite make out what it says ,super snake maybe
Yes "Super Snake" Steve had those on both rear fenders.
I think the car may have been an automatic, certain it was a GT350. I had the car number written down some where and a couple partial photos of the car. I think he sold it in the late 1990's, not sure.
Quote from: oldcanuck on March 21, 2020, 09:22:55 AM
Quote from: J_Speegle on March 19, 2020, 07:58:09 PM
Yes - What was he thinking ..... adding stripes ::) Just looks wrong and on top of that painting it's Raider colors !!
Please don't say that...... over time, I prefer that the interior colors are bleeding through to the exterior !
Really nice car.
Thank you Doug.... it was liberated from a garage sitting beside a Thunderbird just like the previous picture in 68krrrr's post.
I wish I had taken a picture of the cat footprints in all the dust !
So did they produce them in batches of the same colors ,looks like about 7 white ones in a row with I think # 0025 in the front
Quote from: 68krrrr on April 07, 2020, 12:44:02 AM
So did they produce them in batches of the same colors ,looks like about 7 white ones in a row with I think # 0025 in the front
Believe they would likely convert the cars based on need/orders that needed filling. But just a guess - don't recall seeing paperwork related to order of conversions. If its out there "they " will surely post :)
From that picture I wonder how difficult it was to move those cars along the line by hand and where they pushed or pulled on when doing it. Looks like the dollies were designed to use the same (just 4 of the 8) holes that San Jose/Milpitas used
Quote from: 68krrrr on April 07, 2020, 12:44:02 AM
So did they produce them in batches of the same colors ,looks like about 7 white ones in a row with I think # 0025 in the front
Yes it seems like they did produce them in batches of the same colors especially the early cars.not always but definitely a pattern sometimes.You would have to have the DSO sheets to appreciate the pattern of cars produced in the same colors .
Quote from: 68krrrr on April 07, 2020, 12:44:02 AM
So did they produce them in batches of the same colors ,looks like about 7 white ones in a row with I think # 0025 in the front
The car in the foreground of the image is #0231, the current owner is known.
Quote from: JD on April 07, 2020, 09:10:35 AM
Quote from: 68krrrr on April 07, 2020, 12:44:02 AM
So did they produce them in batches of the same colors ,looks like about 7 white ones in a row with I think # 0025 in the front
The car in the foreground of the image is #0231, the current owner is known.
Nice & what a great pic to have of your car as an owner
That would be so amazing to have a photo of my Mach 1 coming down the assembly line in 1969.
Cool that some of the Shelby owners have that kind of documentation/history!!
I read in a Mustang Monthly way back in the late 80's/early 90's that a worker for Mustang Monthly magazine had the opportunity to follow his fox body from start to finish on the assembly line. I mean from the floor pans being pressed out to the Mustang rolling off the assembly line. How cool would that be. Some here may know that story and who the Lucky person was.
Quote from: 68krrrr on April 07, 2020, 12:44:02 AM
So did they produce them in batches of the same colors ,looks like about 7 white ones in a row with I think # 0025 in the front
Why would the second car in line have the door stripes already applied, but the others don't?
And what part of assembly is being done in that photo?
Quote from: Side-Oilers on April 08, 2020, 06:00:30 PM
Quote from: 68krrrr on April 07, 2020, 12:44:02 AM
So did they produce them in batches of the same colors ,looks like about 7 white ones in a row with I think # 0025 in the front
Why would the second car in line have the door stripes already applied, but the others don't?
And what part of assembly is being done in that photo?
Don't discount the possibility of a staged photo ether as one of the possibilities. ;)
Quote from: 68krrrr on March 22, 2020, 09:11:08 PM
Quote from: JD on March 22, 2020, 09:06:26 PM
I think I recognize the white car on the left, was a pervious owner from near Akron Ohio and worked for Goodyear?
Wondered if someone might recognize that script on the rear fender can't quite make out what it says ,super snake maybe
I think I says Super Snail
Quote from: Side-Oilers on April 08, 2020, 06:00:30 PM
Why would the second car in line have the door stripes already applied, but the others don't?
And what part of assembly is being done in that photo?
As long as all the additions/revisions were done by the end of the line...did the order matter? (not saying that to be sarcastic - just that if "Ralph" was in the way move to the next car - backward or forward one - to get your task completed)
Quote from: JD on April 08, 2020, 09:57:09 PM
Quote from: Side-Oilers on April 08, 2020, 06:00:30 PM
Why would the second car in line have the door stripes already applied, but the others don't?
And what part of assembly is being done in that photo?
As long as all the additions/revisions were done by the end of the line...did the order matter? (not saying that to be sarcastic - just that if "Ralph" was in the way move to the next car - backward or forward one - to get your task completed)
Another good explanation. ;)
How were the door stripes applied at S-A? One guy per side? One guy for each car?
Chris Ware posted this, but can't find the original post now :-\ said that his family owned it from new, he might be in Australia
now. I think he vintage races a Camaro currently ? I love these pics from back in the day 8)
Mike
I'm pretty sure I had this one here before, maybe on forum 1 or more currently ? I think some one put an id the location.
That's a great one with the palm trees in the ocean
And an early example of Day 2 LeMans stripes.
Was this a SAAC convention back in the day
Quote from: 2112 on June 05, 2020, 07:47:51 PM
And an early example of Day 2 LeMans stripes.
Suspiciously early T/A Camaro like,hmmmm.... :o
Quote from: 68krrrr on June 05, 2020, 07:58:26 PM
Was this a SAAC convention back in the day
It's a cool photo either way. :D
Port Jervis NY early 1980's show?
This was found on the internet. Looks like an early in 67 pic since the car still has Speedways on it.
Found this one on a muscle car site. No explanation, but it's self explanatory.
Quote from: George Schalk on June 06, 2020, 10:26:31 AM
This was found on the internet. Looks like an early in 67 pic since the car still has Speedways on it.
Interesting that the red car has quarter windows that someone added to a non shelby back then, or an original shelby with a regular mustang hood and 289 fender emblems added which isnt likely.
Quote from: 68krrrr on June 05, 2020, 07:58:26 PM
Was this a SAAC convention back in the day
Quote from: martyjac on June 05, 2020, 10:39:26 PM
Port Jervis NY early 1980's show?
Yup, Port Jervis for sure. I was there and I'm sure martyjac was too.
Well I hit a bug back in the 80s with my 67,but,I t-boned it.Their fault (and a chp officer happened to see the whole thing)but boy was my 20 year old self pissed........I definitely feel this cats pain..... :'(
Here's one I found, GT500 w inboards in England. info with the photo said it was taken outside the premises of J.A. Pearce (Magna
Wheels) in Southhall, west of London. The person on the right was identified as David Bueb, son of Ivor Bueb who raced Jaguars at
Le Mans. There was no date given, I would guess late 60's, early 70s Does the car have Speedways on it ?
Magna wheels were distributed in California by The Motoring Shop, Pearl St. La Jolla, they were on some Cobras that raced in
England.
Check out the fender mirror mount ::)
Mike
Wow. I've never seen a 67 with that type of "add-on" mirror. ;)
Tires don't seem to match? Rear GOODYEAR lettering is much bigger compared to the front and front has a blue stripe (Blue Streak?).
Quote from: davez on June 06, 2020, 11:04:04 AM
Quote from: George Schalk on June 06, 2020, 10:26:31 AM
This was found on the internet. Looks like an early in 67 pic since the car still has Speedways on it.
Interesting that the red car has quarter windows that someone added to a non shelby back then, or an original shelby with a regular mustang hood and 289 fender emblems added which isnt likely.
All VW's from my recollection had quarter windows ::)
Love the meaty tires.
Can't stand fender mounted mirrors on any car.
Quote from: 69mach351w on August 03, 2020, 09:06:48 PM
Quote from: davez on June 06, 2020, 11:04:04 AM
Quote from: George Schalk on June 06, 2020, 10:26:31 AM
This was found on the internet. Looks like an early in 67 pic since the car still has Speedways on it.
Interesting that the red car has quarter windows that someone added to a non shelby back then, or an original shelby with a regular mustang hood and 289 fender emblems added which isnt likely.
All VW's from my recollection had quarter windows ::)
My response was in reference to the Red 66 MUSTANG in George's post 209
NOT the VW in post 210
Quote from: davez on August 04, 2020, 02:56:41 AM
Quote from: 69mach351w on August 03, 2020, 09:06:48 PM
Quote from: davez on June 06, 2020, 11:04:04 AM
Quote from: George Schalk on June 06, 2020, 10:26:31 AM
This was found on the internet. Looks like an early in 67 pic since the car still has Speedways on it.
Interesting that the red car has quarter windows that someone added to a non shelby back then, or an original shelby with a regular mustang hood and 289 fender emblems added which isnt likely.
All VW's from my recollection had quarter windows ::)
My response was in reference to the Red 66 MUSTANG in George's post 209
NOT the VW in post 210
Thought you were referring to vent windows, my bad.
Quote from: honker on August 03, 2020, 12:58:12 PM
Here's one I found, GT500 w inboards in England. info with the photo said it was taken outside the premises of J.A. Pearce (Magna
Wheels) in Southhall, west of London. The person on the right was identified as David Bueb, son of Ivor Bueb who raced Jaguars at
Le Mans. There was no date given, I would guess late 60's, early 70s Does the car have Speedways on it ?
Magna wheels were distributed in California by The Motoring Shop, Pearl St. La Jolla, they were on some Cobras that raced in
England.
Check out the fender mirror mount ::)
Mike
Mike are you certain this is a GT500?
If so that would help narrow the possibilities down greatly as to the Shelby VIN.
Damn look at all those Nightmist blues in the smog at LAX
Here is a another of that same shot but without the glare at the top, not sure the smog was quite that bad but was certainly there....
Sweet that's a great pic
one more
Found another photo of "The Judge" I believe to be a GT500 ? ?
Mike
Internet find, poor image, screen grab, '67 at U.S. 30 Dragway.
Mike
Quote from: honker on September 06, 2020, 10:18:41 PM
Found another photo of "The Judge" I believe to be a GT500 ? ?
Mike
Nice find Mike!
I think the front view of this pink painted "The Judge" is posted early in this thread.
" US 30 dragstrip"? The one outside Gary Indiana or the one in New York? If it was the one in Gary, I never ran into the car when I was out there running #0036.
roddster, I found that pic of the white car with a bunch of others, dating from about '65 through the mid '70s. From what I could
gather they were at U.S. 30 near Gary Indiana.
Here's a link, it's an open group on Facebook, just say not now, and you should be able to see the images, just tried and it works.
Mike
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10218845448427770&set=pcb.2738634326405895&type=3&theater
Cool. Thanks. Van Senus auto parts is still in business. And they have one of the last few automotive machine shops in Northwest Indiana. They did the block on #0036 some 30 yearsa ago. No problems still.
Here's an interesting one for you with side pipes, Marshals & some big fat tires,how did he fit the tires in there .
^^^^^ Absolutely love that picture.
Wow, what a moment in time. 8)
This Brittany Blue GT500 has eluded me for years and years (searching for the Shelby VIN).
It shows up often on the internet in these two attached photos.
More recently (January 2020) it was on video clip with Charlie McHose, the '67 Shelby designer, at Charlie's house in CA.
Anyone know anything more about this one. "550-MTE"
Not from the web, but a couple I shot on a rainy day at the 1996 Vintage races, Watkins Glen, in a time when I didn't make note
of the #'s, silly me ::) I seem to remember there was some question around the white '67, but that could have been another car
at another show, it was 25 years ago !
Mike
Many of us didn't pay much attention to the Shelby VIN numbers back then.
Can't beat yourself up over that. I sure wish I did now.
Here are more old pictures from 1968 drag racing GT 500
Great father/son experiences
Quote from: Doog 427 on May 04, 2021, 06:05:32 PM
Here are more old pictures from 1968 drag racing GT 500
Great pics! 8)
Quote from: S7MS427 on June 06, 2020, 01:16:32 PM
Quote from: 68krrrr on June 05, 2020, 07:58:26 PM
Was this a SAAC convention back in the day
Quote from: martyjac on June 05, 2020, 10:39:26 PM
Port Jervis NY early 1980's show?
Yup, Port Jervis for sure. I was there and I'm sure martyjac was too.
More Port Jervis. Ignore the 68's. ;)
Summer of 1967 original owner in tuxedo went out to dinner, no stripes on car as most didn't have them, said the valet was amazed at vehicle couldn't believe the cool look and design, in board lights, scoops, spoilers, mags, roll bar and 428 2 x 4 engine, car was top of the food chain at the time
Tasca Ford, late 67? #2183 roughly 1995
Quote from: Doog 427 on May 05, 2021, 07:10:02 PM
Summer of 1967 original owner in tuxedo went out to dinner, no stripes on car as most didn't have them, said the valet was amazed at vehicle couldn't believe the cool look and design, in board lights, scoops, spoilers, mags, roll bar and 428 2 x 4 engine, car was top of the food chain at the time
Nice original photos identified and dated!!!
Thanks for posting Mike!
Quote from: PrettyMuchAShelbyGuy on May 05, 2021, 08:23:57 PM
Tasca Ford, late 67? #2183 roughly 1995
#2183 completed to the dealer ordered option on 5/12/67 and shipped 5/19/67...so yes, a later 67.
Was this yours or your family's? More pictures...please
Quote from: Doog 427 on May 05, 2021, 07:10:02 PM
Summer of 1967 original owner in tuxedo went out to dinner, no stripes on car as most didn't have them, said the valet was amazed at vehicle couldn't believe the cool look and design, in board lights, scoops, spoilers, mags, roll bar and 428 2 x 4 engine, car was top of the food chain at the time
Do you know the owner? How about the car #?
Incredibly cool picture and story.
Hello 2112
I have talked with you before have 05 Ford GT, hope you are well, original owner car #344 Bill Benett, Sandpoint Idaho, He told me in summer 67 these Shelby's were very unique, so decked out and very cool, just nothing like them, people couldn't believe it when they saw it, now all cars have these features, biggest motor out there was a 390 in pony car, he ran 13"s in 1/4 at 104 stock 428. In 68 he put a 427 in it.
Steve
Quote from: Richstang on May 05, 2021, 09:40:19 PM
Quote from: PrettyMuchAShelbyGuy on May 05, 2021, 08:23:57 PM
Tasca Ford, late 67? #2183 roughly 1995
#2183 completed to the dealer ordered option on 5/12/67 and shipped 5/19/67...so yes, a later 67.
Was this yours or your family's? More pictures...please
Hi Richstang- yes, 2183 was mine in the mid 90's. I saw a lot of 67's selling for $2,500 in the mid 70's- Never pulled the trigger. By the mid 90's, I said F-it and decided I was going to pull the trigger. Killed me to spend 10X that however. I travelled for a living and looked at cars all over the US - most were very disappointing. Bo (TexasSwede) kept me emotionally detached on many I looked at. I had the fortune of knowing a few guy's in FW in the mid 70's who bought all they saw, so they were not exactly foreign to me. But, you know how it is when you are looking 'for the right deal'... Any color except lime gold would work. Had to be a small block 4 speed. This one was was bought out of Ohio (Original Owner was Ron Abt in Cincinnati - was able to trade snail-mail with him one time.). Next owner was a broker who later sold the car to Bill Neale (RIP Bill), then I bought it from the broker. Bill used the car as a model in one of his posters. It was super original (not restored) and just had 1 re-paint. I used to drive it all over Carrollton/Dallas/Fort Worth, even to work from time to time. I have a ton of pictures. Ended up selling it to a guy who I'm told still has it; name is Corey. He gave me $27,500.00 in CASH. Felt I did ok...Fast forward ~25 years later, and it's what, a $130K+ all day long? SMH!
Quote from: Doog 427 on May 06, 2021, 05:33:04 PM
Hello 2112
I have talked with you before have 05 Ford GT, hope you are well, original owner car #344 Bill Benett, Sandpoint Idaho, He told me in summer 67 these Shelby's were very unique, so decked out and very cool, just nothing like them, people couldn't believe it when they saw it, now all cars have these features, biggest motor out there was a 390 in pony car, he ran 13"s in 1/4 at 104 stock 428. In 68 he put a 427 in it.
Steve
. Still unique and cool in my book..... 8)
Quote from: PrettyMuchAShelbyGuy on May 06, 2021, 08:21:58 PM
Quote from: Richstang on May 05, 2021, 09:40:19 PM
Quote from: PrettyMuchAShelbyGuy on May 05, 2021, 08:23:57 PM
Tasca Ford, late 67? #2183 roughly 1995
#2183 completed to the dealer ordered option on 5/12/67 and shipped 5/19/67...so yes, a later 67.
Was this yours or your family's? More pictures...please
Hi Richstang- yes, 2183 was mine in the mid 90's. I saw a lot of 67's selling for $2,500 in the mid 70's- Never pulled the trigger. By the mid 90's, I said F-it and decided I was going to pull the trigger. Killed me to spend 10X that however. I travelled for a living and looked at cars all over the US - most were very disappointing. Bo (TexasSwede) kept me emotionally detached on many I looked at. I had the fortune of knowing a few guy's in FW in the mid 70's who bought all they saw, so they were not exactly foreign to me. But, you know how it is when you are looking 'for the right deal'... Any color except lime gold would work. Had to be a small block 4 speed. This one was was bought out of Ohio (Original Owner was Ron Abt in Cincinnati - was able to trade snail-mail with him one time.). Next owner was a broker who later sold the car to Bill Neale (RIP Bill), then I bought it from the broker. Bill used the car as a model in one of his posters. It was super original (not restored) and just had 1 re-paint. I used to drive it all over Carrollton/Dallas/Fort Worth, even to work from time to time. I have a ton of pictures. Ended up selling it to a guy who I'm told still has it; name is Corey. He gave me $27,500.00 in CASH. Felt I did ok...Fast forward ~25 years later, and it's what, a $130K+ all day long? SMH!
Great to hear all the details of your GT350 purchase. 25K to 27.5K sounds like a steal in today's world.
It mustang have been a clean sharp car with only a repaint needed back then. Nice Terlingua logo on the fender.
I'll send you a PM if you want to share a few of those pictures with me. Thanks for the reply.
Rich- Thank you for the kind words. I am happy to send you any & all duplicate photo's I have. I have also sent you all I have electronically to your e-mail. Feel free to use/share/post as you see fit. Bo (TexasSwede) may have additional photos of mine as well.
Quote from: Doog 427 on May 06, 2021, 05:33:04 PM
Hello 2112
I have talked with you before have 05 Ford GT, hope you are well, original owner car #344 Bill Benett, Sandpoint Idaho, He told me in summer 67 these Shelby's were very unique, so decked out and very cool, just nothing like them, people couldn't believe it when they saw it, now all cars have these features, biggest motor out there was a 390 in pony car, he ran 13"s in 1/4 at 104 stock 428. In 68 he put a 427 in it.
Steve
The story got even better. #344 and I have the same hometown. In fact, I bought my first "new" car from McCollum Ford, a 1991 F250.
Bill got that car running really well. Sounds like he made the most out his years of ownership.
Amazing same home town as Bill, He purchased the car in the spring of 1967 through Cady & Pier dealership in Sandpoint, Idaho. He drove on street 67 raced the 428 in 68 then, yes He put a 427 in car and drag raced it and ran pretty well. Do you know Bill now?
Quote from: Doog 427 on May 07, 2021, 03:24:27 PM
Amazing same home town as Bill, He purchased the car in the spring of 1967 through Cady & Pier dealership in Sandpoint, Idaho. He drove on street 67 raced the 428 in 68 then, yes He put a 427 in car and drag raced it and ran pretty well. Do you know Bill now?
No, I am from Spokane, where McCollum Ford, the authorized dealer that sent #344 to Cady & Pier. I now live on the other side of the state.
But I was just in Sandpoint last weekend as I am looking to relocate to the area. Is Bill still around?
Hi all 67 fans,
Just a quick upgrade--the Brittany Blue car Richstang is curious about is part of a new article in the latest "members only " magazine..
shows as a long time cal. owner-and was originally from Oregon. Hope this helps!
R.R. P.S GREAT PICS from back in the day!! very enjoyable...Thanks to all contributors....
Quote from: 2112 on May 07, 2021, 10:03:58 PM
Quote from: Doog 427 on May 07, 2021, 03:24:27 PM
Amazing same home town as Bill, He purchased the car in the spring of 1967 through Cady & Pier dealership in Sandpoint, Idaho. He drove on street 67 raced the 428 in 68 then, yes He put a 427 in car and drag raced it and ran pretty well. Do you know Bill now?
No, I am from Spokane, where McCollum Ford, the authorized dealer that sent #344 to Cady & Pier. I now live on the other side of the state.
But I was just in Sandpoint last weekend as I am looking to relocate to the area. Is Bill still around?
Hi 2112 sorry for delay yes Bill is still around now we met many years ago and he got to drive his car again after over 30 years
Quote from: Road Reptile on May 11, 2021, 05:37:49 PM
Hi all 67 fans,
Just a quick upgrade--the Brittany Blue car Richstang is curious about is part of a new article in the latest "members only " magazine..
shows as a long time cal. owner-and was originally from Oregon. Hope this helps!
R.R. P.S GREAT PICS from back in the day!! very enjoyable...Thanks to all contributors....
Thanks RR, but I am not familiar with that magazine. Did they happen to mention the owners name?
Looking at '67 Shelby's sold at Marv Tonkin Ford in Portland, OR came up empty for a match.
Quote from: Doog 427 on May 16, 2021, 07:00:48 PM
Quote from: 2112 on May 07, 2021, 10:03:58 PM
Quote from: Doog 427 on May 07, 2021, 03:24:27 PM
Amazing same home town as Bill, He purchased the car in the spring of 1967 through Cady & Pier dealership in Sandpoint, Idaho. He drove on street 67 raced the 428 in 68 then, yes He put a 427 in car and drag raced it and ran pretty well. Do you know Bill now?
No, I am from Spokane, where McCollum Ford, the authorized dealer that sent #344 to Cady & Pier. I now live on the other side of the state.
But I was just in Sandpoint last weekend as I am looking to relocate to the area. Is Bill still around?
Hi 2112 sorry for delay yes Bill is still around now we met many years ago and he got to drive his car again after over 30 years
Doog427 are you the current owner of #344?
Rich, RR (Road Reptile) is referring to the Summer 2021 The Shelby American magazine viewable in the members only section of the SAAC website. The article on Bill Neale, the '67 he owned.
Quote from: JD on May 18, 2021, 09:28:30 AM
Rich, RR (Road Reptile) is referring to the Summer 2021 The Shelby American magazine viewable in the members only section of the SAAC website. The article on Bill Neale, the '67 he owned.
Thanks JD, I didn't get that before from RR, but now it makes sense.
Back to the Registry
Quote from: 2112 on May 17, 2021, 11:38:55 PM
Quote from: Doog 427 on May 16, 2021, 07:00:48 PM
Quote from: 2112 on May 07, 2021, 10:03:58 PM
Quote from: Doog 427 on May 07, 2021, 03:24:27 PM
Amazing same home town as Bill, He purchased the car in the spring of 1967 through Cady & Pier dealership in Sandpoint, Idaho. He drove on street 67 raced the 428 in 68 then, yes He put a 427 in car and drag raced it and ran pretty well. Do you know Bill now?
No, I am from Spokane, where McCollum Ford, the authorized dealer that sent #344 to Cady & Pier. I now live on the other side of the state.
But I was just in Sandpoint last weekend as I am looking to relocate to the area. Is Bill still around?
Hi 2112 sorry for delay yes Bill is still around now we met many years ago and he got to drive his car again after over 30 years
Doog427 are you the current owner of #344?
Yes 2112 current owner for past 33years
Quote from: Doog 427 on May 18, 2021, 06:56:29 PM
Quote from: 2112 on May 17, 2021, 11:38:55 PM
Doog427 are you the current owner of #344?
Yes 2112 current owner for past 33years
That is fantastic.
Photo from the web.... not exactly 1967.
My buddy, who has 2 bands, just sent me this.
I didn't know how to respond quite frankly........
Quote from: Richstang on April 28, 2021, 01:57:37 PM
This Brittany Blue GT500 has eluded me for years and years (searching for the Shelby VIN).
It shows up often on the internet in these two attached photos.
More recently (January 2020) it was on video clip with Charlie McHose, the '67 Shelby designer, at Charlie's house in CA.
Anyone know anything more about this one. "550-MTE"
Got it!!!
Summer 2021 Shelby American, in the Charlie McHose article!
Thanks for the source information from RR and JD!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_yb5UZFCzs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVRxqwCV4vU&t=1s&fbclid=IwAR156b716IcIYJaZ7M0OMLpAfcft4yFXCCI2CJlPYOs8sXfTBFOY1Lqrkuo
Texas Swede - what are they saying??? ;-)
I'm sure Texas Swede will come up with the complete transcript ;) my wife who is Swedish listened to the first few minutes (It's
11PM here) he's talking about how it came to Sweden, the video is shot in Umea, Sweden, about 400 miles/ 637 kilometers
North of Stockholm. he has been working on it bit by bit. She will listen more in the morning.
Texas Swede....over till dig !
Mike
Quote from: honker on June 02, 2021, 10:52:36 PM
I'm sure Texas Swede will come up with the complete transcript ;) my wife who is Swedish listened to the first few minutes (It's
11PM here) he's talking about how it came to Sweden, the video is shot in Umea, Sweden, about 400 miles/ 637 kilometers
North of Stockholm. he has been working on it bit by bit. She will listen more in the morning.
Texas Swede....over till dig !
Mike
#1338. Claims to be a Company car from new.
:D
#01338 as a base unit was built by Ford SJ on 1/30/67, completed 4/13/67. That is an unusual amount of time in between. Normally we see them completed in just over a week.
The photos show a slanted 2-piece grille. That could indicate an early start date at SAI, but with the April completion date it would likely have had a vertical grille. There could have been an issue that held it up for a couple of month. Could that be the reason it was selected as a Company Car?
We can see the LAX lot stickers '115' on both sides of the windshield confirming it as a Company Car.
In the one video, the registry shows a photo with no side stripes, but that car is noted as #00957. Why?
Does the new owner tell us why he shows that other photo, in the video?
The previous US owner sent the 'SRG' photos that show an unusual modification to the grille and core support. It appears someone was trying to control and direct the air into the radiator with more efficiency. Was that a SAI or past owner modification? (I don't expect anyone to know that answer)
It is neat to see photos of this car in the worn/weathered condition. The newer second video shows the new owner had the engine/ compartment freshened up with a rebuild.
Someone please tell the new Swedish owner to remove the newly added 'Caution Fan' Sticker. We know that does not belong on a Shelby. It's not a Mustang!
Here a link to photos of its arrival in Sweden
https://imgur.com/gallery/ccPUYDN
The comments below the photos are interesting with some detailed replies from the owner;
-This'67 GT500 was purchased for around $80K
-It was sitting for 9 years and only needed a battery and fresh gas to start it
-Repainted twice; first in green, then back to Brittany Blue
-It took 4 months to get it to Sweden
-For now, the new owner plans keeping it as is (stock), other than a engine rebuild
A couple of things if I might
Quote from: Richstang on June 03, 2021, 12:37:48 PM
The previous US owner sent the 'SRG' photos that show an unusual modification to the grille and core support. It appears someone was trying to control and direct the air into the radiator with more efficiency. Was that a SAI or past owner modification? (I don't expect anyone to know that answer)
- What are the modifications to the "core" (radiator) support.
- Have seen similar attempts of sealing off the grill to control the air flow. Always looked like an owner thing or some attached to a popular race car shop out here during the 80's that liked to relocate the radiator and add oil cooler cut out in the radiator support
- Could you explain the "video" I apparently missed soe
Quote from: Richstang on June 03, 2021, 12:37:48 PM
#01338 as a base unit was built by Ford SJ on 1/30/67, completed 4/13/67. That is an unusual amount of time in between. Normally we see them completed in just over a week.
The photos show a slanted 2-piece grille. That could indicate an early start date at SAI, but with the April completion date it would likely have had a vertical grille. There could have been an issue that held it up for a couple of month. Could that be the reason it was selected as a Company Car?
Don't think that would suggest why the car was chosen to be a company loaner to an employee. Don't see the same reasoning on other similar cars assigned to personal temporarily. The license plate sequence is interesting given the limited data points we have to work with. To bad we don't have any information when it was assigned and when it was released and resold as a used car. Also the fairly large number assigned to the windshield sticker should provide some idea of time period though a rough one
Quote from: Richstang on June 03, 2021, 12:37:48 PMIn the one video, the registry shows a photo with no side stripes, but that car is noted as #00957. Why?
Does the new owner tell us why he shows that other photo, in the video?
Did I miss a link to a video somewhere?
Jeff,
The 2 video links were posted by 'JohnB' in reply #266 on the previous page.
One video seemed to only have the engine running with no voice over.
The second video is much longer with the new owner from Sweden talking is his native language.
The only modification I was referring to is what we see in that photo I posted.
We can see holes were drilled in both the front of the core support and top of the grille to attach those added panels.
They appear to be rivets. Nothing else was done that I'm aware of.
I agree the unknown delay for completion does not 'suggest' it was why it was chosen for company car selection. I only said 'could' because it is a possibility, however slim it might be. We don't have any paperwork that might note a detail as to why the completion date was held up from the time it was delivered.
The registry mentions 'Russ Grimm' as the SAI assigned driver. What department did he work with?. My employee list does not include his name. Was he in Sales or maybe Engineering?
While the car was not listed as an engineering car, we just don't know what it was used for.
Do you recall what other cars had similar air control panels on them? by Shelby VIN numbers...just curious.
The '115' as a company car number seems to be line with the very few cars we know the lot numbers for.
Little Red was '061' and noted to be completed in December.
You ask a good question. How long it was in company service before going to the selling dealer and then sold. I have a few others I'll keep to myself for now. Maybe we'll see more info in the upcoming new registry.
Very cool modification. I wonder how effectively it improved cooling?
Quote from: 2112 on June 04, 2021, 12:23:30 AM
Very cool modification. I wonder how effectively it improved cooling?
Likely similar to the Mustang radiator support rubber seal give the gaps around the sides and the hood latch on the one i reply #270. But racers and hot rodders will try just about anything
Thanks for the additional information
Quote from: Richstang on June 03, 2021, 10:04:01 PM
I agree the unknown delay for completion does not 'suggest' it was why it was chosen for company car selection. I only said 'could' because it is a possibility, however slim it might be. We don't have any paperwork that might note a detail as to why the completion date was held up from the time it was delivered.
Its interesting that allot of company cars were assigned during the second half of the production/model years or at least that was my take away at looking at them through the years Shelby ran the company
Quote from: Richstang on June 03, 2021, 10:04:01 PMThe registry mentions 'Russ Grimm' as the SAI assigned driver. What department did he work with?. My employee list does not include his name. Was he in Sales or maybe Engineering?
While the car was not listed as an engineering car, we just don't know what it was used for.
Yes noticed that he has not been included in publish list or with the ex-employees. Maybe he wasn't around long. Did see one mention that he possibly had something to do with emissions which would make the the 67 #1338 interesting being so late in production though it was a thermactor car. If it was a GT350 with therm. that might more of a story. Maybe he was hired for just a period of time or one project. Noticed that the registry does not show a date the car was sold as a used car. - maybe we don't have the records for the 67's as we do for other years
Quote from: Richstang on June 03, 2021, 10:04:01 PM
Do you recall what other cars had similar air control panels on them? by Shelby VIN numbers...just curious.
Will look through my stuff
Quote from: Richstang on June 03, 2021, 10:04:01 PM
You ask a good question. How long it was in company service before going to the selling dealer and then sold. I have a few others I'll keep to myself for now. Maybe we'll see more info in the upcoming new registry.
Looking through 65-67 production and company cars provides some information but have not assembled a spread sheet to and get a good look at the results. My wife's 66 was a company car assigned to the Director of PR that Shelby hired but was a bit different (along with a few others) as they changed hands multiple times before being sold to the public as used cars approx year later
Hey!
I'm the Swedish guy with #1338. Some things that has been discussed above that I might have some answers too.
1. Russ Grim, there has been some documentation floating around on the shelby research google group suggesting that the car was used for Exhaust testing. Whatever that might mean we will probably never know. It was however a thermactor car with fined hood.
2. The front aluminum plates came with the car in the trunk when it arrived. It looks very much like a non-shelby modification though, even gotten in contact with a guy who knew of the cars previous owner that suggested he did the modification. From what I also heard he raced it at a dragstrip in LA (that is now gone). It also has high-jackers in the rear so would fit that rumor.
3. Will remove the caution fan sticker. Figured it was correct since I've seen it on a lot of other GT500s, oops :D
4. The side stickers are a modification from previous owner along with last repaint.
5. That SAAC book footage you are discussing was just me showing the Jim Morrison car, not related just for fun.
If anyone has any other questions or want som additional pictures or whatever just let me know.
Grill: what I don't see is the angled "eyebrows" that an early angled grill would have. It seems the headlights are pushed forward into the openings without them.
Can you post a grill photo shot a little off to the side?
Welcome Zilk!!
Very cool car. Thanks for sharing pics, videos and information about it. Congrats!
John
Quote from: Zilk on June 04, 2021, 05:42:22 AM
Hey!
I'm the Swedish guy with #1338. Some things that has been discussed above that I might have some answers too.
1. Russ Grim, there has been some documentation floating around on the shelby research google group suggesting that the car was used for Exhaust testing. Whatever that might mean we will probably never know. It was however a thermactor car with fined hood.
2. The front aluminum plates came with the car in the trunk when it arrived. It looks very much like a non-shelby modification though, even gotten in contact with a guy who knew of the cars previous owner that suggested he did the modification. From what I also heard he raced it at a dragstrip in LA (that is now gone). It also has high-jackers in the rear so would fit that rumor.
3. Will remove the caution fan sticker. Figured it was correct since I've seen it on a lot of other GT500s, oops :D
4. The side stickers are a modification from previous owner along with last repaint.
5. That SAAC book footage you are discussing was just me showing the Jim Morrison car, not related just for fun.
If anyone has any other questions or want som additional pictures or whatever just let me know.
Hello Zilk,
Welcome to the SAAC forum. You do have a cool car even if it is not perfect.
Thanks for the detailed reply and offer to answer any remaining questions.
This is also a great place to ask any questions you might have.
There are several top experts here that can answer them and are happy to do help.
I'm one of the administrators for the Shelby Research Group. I'll check into your note on Russ Grimm, but I don't recall any document in my files with his name.
-Found a document, but unfortunately it is not mine to share. It might not matter much, as it is only the name 'R. Grimm' noted with the word 'Emissions' above it. It is related to a red '67 GT500 with the document dated January 24, 1969.
The louvered hood was not typically installed on any thermactor equipped cars. If it had a later completion date as built by Shelby American that might explain why (They might have been put on a few cars, to use up the stock so the parts would not have to be shipped to Michigan, when SAI moved there for 1968).
In my opinion, your hood was replaced as a service part or by a previous owner and not original to the car.
It is terrific that one of the previous owners told you those added panels, on the grille to radiator support, was an owner added item. It might have been running to warm in the hotter California climate.
Seeing the 'Caution Fan' sticker is a red flag to the Shelby community. Taking it off will be a big plus when you open the hood. We've been told for years, it was a Mustang detail, not put on the '67 Shelby's that were built at Ford's San Jose factory in California. Many restoration shops make that mistake
The side stripes added from the '68 GT500KR are very different and the placement is unique to your car. It's your choice on whether to fix it, or wait until you decide to repaint it or not. If you do ever decide to change them, please take note the lettering on a '67 is NOT centered in the fender like the other year Shelby's.
I believe the Jim Morrison car was 0939. In the video, I noticed the registry focused in on 0957. That's one of the reasons why I asked for the translation. At first, I thought it was an older registry showing an older picture of your car. It appeared freshly paint without the side stripes. Then I noticed the car number did not match.
I'll send you a PM shortly.
Thanks again for the reply and welcome.
Quote from: J_Speegle on June 04, 2021, 01:09:01 AM
Thanks for the additional information
Quote from: Richstang on June 03, 2021, 10:04:01 PM
I agree the unknown delay for completion does not 'suggest' it was why it was chosen for company car selection. I only said 'could' because it is a possibility, however slim it might be. We don't have any paperwork that might note a detail as to why the completion date was held up from the time it was delivered.
Its interesting that allot of company cars were assigned during the second half of the production/model years or at least that was my take away at looking at them through the years Shelby ran the company
I believe Brian Styles (maybe I helped ::)) figured out the CC lot stickers on the windshields were added around the time of Ford's take over in late April '67. I recall we supported that theory when we looked at the SuperSnake photos at the Texas tire test. It didn't have the lot stickers in March. Then they appeared in the 'Drag Strip' magazine article, issued in August '67 with the lot stickers. (assume a 2 month lead time to publish) Other cars have a simular matching story, like Little Red.
Quote from: T-Bone68 on June 04, 2021, 11:13:34 AM
Welcome Zilk!!
Very cool car. Thanks for sharing pics, videos and information about it. Congrats!
John
+1
One thing I've been thinking about is the license plate, WFJ 013. Seen a lot of Shelby cars with the 013 numbers on their plate, did they have a series of plates assigned?
Quote from: Zilk on June 07, 2021, 01:39:18 AM
One thing I've been thinking about is the license plate, WFJ 013. Seen a lot of Shelby cars with the 013 numbers on their plate, did they have a series of plates assigned?
Most plates (non-company cars and the like would have been assigned license plates in the state and county where they were originally sold. Calif plates can sometimes be used to estimate when a car wad first registered in California or if the plates were added much later (decades) in its life. And of course there are reproduction/fake plates that have and are being made
Unfortunately the registry does not tell us where is was sold used through - dealership or region - Or when it was sold. I don't have any plates starting with "W" in SoCal in my records at this time. Do have a "WFA" assigned to a 68 Mustangs sold in Calif likely in Nov 68
If you check this old pic of Little Red for instance it's got the same 013 numbers on the plate:
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2018/09/640/320/74ecc0f9-lr1.jpg?ve=1&tl=1
You can also see it on this pic with Carroll on a cobra:
https://i.redd.it/es5v0z5tntiz.jpg
And of course the MFG 013 plates:
https://www.mecum.com/lots/RM0520-428894/1963-carroll-shelby-shelby-american-california-mfg-013-license-plate/
Manufactures plates are different than what were assigned to regular vehicles owned by individuals. Pattern and plate lay out is different. On the Manufactures plates there were dozens or hundreds in some cases assigned to the company for their use. Difference in those on Calif plates is the smaller letters and numbers to the left of the MFG
Looks like was typing this just as Jeff was typing his, but he beat me to the posting.
I agree:
MFG plates were (legally) moved from car to car, like a Dealer plate. The plate is "registered" to the manufacturer, not to any particular car.
Which is why you will see magazine tests (even today) with the same plate sequence on different cars.
The 013 is the manufacturer number. The little numbers on the left side of the plate are that particular plate's number.
Yes, the 'WFJ 013' licence plate on #1338 is a standard California plate, not a Shelby American MFG plate.
It's lucky to have the 013 numbers and still neat to have the black plate with the car!
^^^Definitely 8)
Allan Taylor, '67 GT350, Run Offs, Oct. 30th. '77, Road Atlanta.
Any one I.D. this car ?
(photo: Gladiator Racing)
Quote from: J_Speegle on June 07, 2021, 02:49:42 PM
Manufactures plates are different than what were assigned to regular vehicles owned by individuals. Pattern and plate lay out is different. On the Manufactures plates there were dozens or hundreds in some cases assigned to the company for their use. Difference in those on Calif plates is the smaller letters and numbers to the left of the MFG
Michigan manufacturer's plates are six digits with a small M in the center and Manufacturer at the bottom. Unfortunately, Historic plates are also six digits, so every so often I get a bill from the North Texas Tollway Authority for tolls. They send a picture of the manufacturers plate whose numbers match my '68, except no M. I send them a nice message that they have the wrong vehicle and after another message and a phone call they stop sending me bills. Until the next time this plate ignores the toll booth.
Drag strip fun ,can't quite read what it says on the hood "Here comes the judge " is what I'm thinking
Quote from: 68krrrr on July 29, 2021, 07:38:36 PM
Drag strip fun ,can't quite read what it says on the hood "Here comes the judge " is what I'm thinking
. On the doors too...
I believe this to be the same car, might be in this thread earlier, or from forum 1. sorry if it's a repost.
Mike
Quote from: honker on July 29, 2021, 10:20:19 PM
I believe this to be the same car, might be in this thread earlier, or from forum 1. sorry if it's a repost.
Mike
It does look the same!
Seems using the '68 stripes started waaaaay back in the day.
#0059 just appeared in a recent search. It has the same license plate from an old ad in 2008.
I'm not sure this green one hasn't been here before, maybe forum 1 ? '67 GT350/500 ? , Quebec, Canada.
Another one from Quebec, some assembly required !
Mike
"Thunder on the Mountain" car show in Tehachapi, CA
The caption noted the owner from Bishop, CA
(They also misnamed the car as a 1967 Shelby Cobra GT350. Besides the added 'Cobra' name we can see it's a GT500)
I believe this is at Goodwood, UK, 2011 no other information with the photo.
(found on a Norwegian site)
Mike
I wonder who picked up this beauty back in 2007.
This one was sitting out in the open back in 2006. He didn't want to sell it then but did eventually.
Sad pictures hope someone rescued them
67 GT350, Sweden '70s.
Texas Swede, do you know this one ?
Mike
Lemans stripes inspired by the original Pontiac T/A?!?!
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Quote from: 557 on December 13, 2021, 11:57:57 AM
Lemans stripes inspired by the original Pontiac T/A?!?!
Is that a Pontiac-style hood tach someone put on the '65? Optical illusion or ???
Quote from: mustang245 on December 01, 2021, 11:39:36 PM
This one was sitting out in the open back in 2006. He didn't want to sell it then but did eventually.
I purchased from the family in 2013 and still have this car. Did you take these pics? Looks like between 2006 and 2013 the horn button disappeared. I'd be curious to find out about where it was at the time.
Heres how it was being stored
Dave
The car in Reply #300 above belonged to my Father from 1974 to 2011/2012 time frame. The car was wrecked/totaled in the 70/71 time frame (ended up belonging to an Insurance Company). It set in a Junkyard until 1974 when the guy that originally wrecked it went and got it out of the Junkyard and brought it to my Father - we were looking for parts I needed for my car. It had already been stripped of any "good" before it got to us but we got four or five items off it. My brother used the third member in a 70 Bronco way back in the day. I still have the original bent-up grille.
A guy bought this "hull" from my Father around 2011/2012 with a goal to "return it to it's original beauty". I have lost track of what happened to it after that but it hasn't turned up to my knowledge.
Just a few details to go with the pictures. You would not believe how many people hunted down my Father to ask about the car over the years. He got to where he would create "unusual stories" to tell about it's history for his own entertainment.
By the way, I have provided a full and complete story about this car to Dave Mathews.
Tom Gilliam
(270) 755 - 6417
Hi All 67 fans,
Just curious where the pic in post # 307 was from....simply says 1967...it is an unusual pic for several reasons (angle-lighting-and color to name a few)
Thanks in advance for providing it....would really love to know more.
R.R.
That's gotta be 0176, the advertising car, the USL's are more prominent for starters, hub caps, the large letter GT500 rear plate, If it is, Ive never seen this picture before.
Quote from: rcgt350 on December 15, 2021, 12:17:28 AM
That's gotta be 0176, the advertising car, the USL's are more prominent for starters, hub caps, the large letter GT500 rear plate, If it is, Ive never seen this picture before.
SOMEBODY cropped that image to appear as a photo.
It was on the cover of the 1967 Car & Driver Yearbook
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Norway, no way...the great Norway !
Norway is a Scandinavian country encompassing mountains, glaciers and deep coastal fjords. Oslo, the capital, is a city of green spaces and museums. Preserved 9th-century Viking ships are displayed at Oslo's Viking Ship Museum. Bergen, with colorful wooden houses, is the starting point for cruises to the dramatic Sognefjord. Norway is also known for fishing, hiking and skiing, notably at Lillehammer's Olympic resor
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Norway, no way...the great Norway !
Norway is a Scandinavian country encompassing mountains, glaciers and deep coastal fjords. Oslo, the capital, is a city of green spaces and museums. Preserved 9th-century Viking ships are displayed at Oslo's Viking Ship Museum. Bergen, with colorful wooden houses, is the starting point for cruises to the dramatic Sognefjord. Norway is also known for fishing, hiking and skiing, notably at Lillehammer's Olympic resor
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#1952
Not from the web, I was sorting stuff, and came across this page from some magazine that was given to me a number of years ago
because they knew I liked '67 Shelbys, can any one i.d. the car ?
Mike
67 St. Placide, Quebec, Canada. I'm not sure if this one has been here before ?
Mike
Didn't search the thread too hard, this one might have been here before, maybe forum 1 ?
Mike
^^^ Back in the day when ordinary people would come out of their houses to marvel at a Shelby.
Note the block(s) behind the rear tire(s). Car might have been pushed there, or off loaded from a trailer. Or has no brakes.
I had to laugh when I saw that picture, reminded me of my house back in the day. Look at all the oil drip stains, burn out marks, and mess in front of that house. A real good place for youngsters to hang out. AHHH the good old days! ;D
Center lines ,eh?
Quote from: 427heaven on January 21, 2022, 09:43:17 PM
I had to laugh when I saw that picture, reminded me of my house back in the day. Look at all the oil drip stains, burn out marks, and mess in front of that house. A real good place for youngsters to hang out. AHHH the good old days! ;D
100% My old neighborhood too. And mostly with neighbors that didn't care about our noise and tire smoke, or kept it to themselves.
She is bummed.... the 1968 guys don't have a web picture thread !
Quote from: honker on January 21, 2022, 11:51:39 AM
Didn't search the thread too hard, this one might have been here before, maybe forum 1 ?
Mike
I remember these photos and I do believe it was forum 1.
Cool vintage photos....Love 'em 8)