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Title: Dearborn Convention Hotel
Post by: Rodster-500 on December 16, 2018, 02:53:14 PM
Apparently time and the economy have taken their toll on the hotel.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/wayne/2018/12/14/edward-hotel-closed-dearborn-fairlane/2310682002/

Once a jewel in the city of Dearborn, the former Hyatt Regency, renamed in 2016 the Edward Hotel & Convention Center, was shuttered Friday because of several fire code violations and maintenance issues.     

City officials told the hotel's operators Wednesday that the property is "unfit for human occupancy."

The closure followed a Dec. 4 annual inspection by the fire department and inspections by building officials, city spokeswoman Mary Laundroche said. Inspectors found plumbing leaks, broken elevators, damaged ceiling tiles and other problems.

"Although the city had been working with the operators of the hotel since May 2016 as they progressed toward a certificate of occupancy and compliance with property maintenance codes, the most recent violations are so serious that the city needed to close the building to protect guests, employees and the public," Laundroche said in an email.

Hotel owner Xiao Hua (Edward) Gong, of 600 Town Center Realty, LLC, could not be reached for comment Friday. An attorney who worked for him in 2016, James Cambridge of Kerr Russell in Detroit, also could not be reached.

The Free Press reported in 2016 that Gong bought the crescent-shaped, 773-room hotel for $20 million in January of that year.   

The previous owner, Israel-based Royal Realities, acquired the hotel out of receivership in 2011 after another previous owner, Dallas-based Ashford Hospitality Trust, chose to default on the property's mortgage during the recession. The past owners were unwilling or unable to make tens of millions of dollars in renovations to the aging hotel, so Chicago-based Hyatt pulled its brand name off the property in 2012.

After Gong took ownership, the hotel transitioned to an in-house management team. It also underwent some renovations and exterior improvements.

It was unclear Friday whether staff would face layoffs.

"I really haven't heard too much," said a switchboard operator, adding that she and other employees were informed Friday morning that the hotel would close at noon.

WXYZ-TV (Channel 7) reported that most employees will be laid off, citing another unnamed switchboard operator.

Visitors and groups who have booked stays at the hotel should reach out to the Detroit Metro Convention & Visitors Bureau, which will try to help relocate them, media relations manager Deanna Majchrzak said.

While the hotel did not have a valid certificate of occupancy, it was allowed to operate because it was working toward one, Laundroche said.

"It's pretty standard that if a business is making progress toward addressing all building codes, we allow them to operate without a full (certificate of occupancy)," as long as inspectors don't find serious violations that could threaten people's lives, she said.

In the recent inspections, the city found 18 violations that need to be corrected.

"We would love if they would work with us and bring us a plan about how they're going to address the life safety issues, and overall how they are going to bring their building up to code," Laundroche said.

Located at 600 Town Center Drive, the hotel is adjacent to Ford headquarters. According to its website, it was built in 1976 and has 64,000 square feet of public space.

Recent TripAdvisor reviews of the property have been mixed. One user called the hotel "empty and close to deserted," and "a shell of its former glory." Another wrote it was "unclean and beat up." Still, it received an overall rating of 3.5 stars.
Title: Re: Dearborn Convention Hotel
Post by: Coralsnake on December 16, 2018, 03:24:44 PM
I stayed there both during the original SAAC convention and as recently as this past summer.

My early recollection was it was one of the nicest places I have stayed. At that time we had a suite.

This past summer, the experience was quite different, there were large sheets of wall paper coming off in the hallways, possibly from previous maintenance. The tub did not drain properly. So all that makes sense.

I have stayed in a lot of crappy accomodations and it certainly didnt rival Illopango, El Salvador, but it did need considerable work.

Its a dirty business.
Title: Re: Dearborn Convention Hotel
Post by: roddster on December 16, 2018, 04:41:27 PM
  So, this kind-of knocks it out of the running for SAAC 45, eh?
Title: Re: Dearborn Convention Hotel
Post by: Coralsnake on December 16, 2018, 04:52:42 PM
I also heard some first hand accounts of the neighboring mall, it seems the entire area is in decline
Title: Re: Dearborn Convention Hotel
Post by: shlby66 on December 16, 2018, 05:23:25 PM



    Yes, we had, great times, in Dearborn, for SAAC 5, 8 and 11, at this hotel.  However, by the
    time we returned for SAAC 15, the place was starting, to look well worn. AND, the elevated
    tram, that would transport you, over to the Mall, was no longer in service. An indication, that
    things, were not going well.

    Doug

     
Title: Re: Dearborn Convention Hotel
Post by: Side-Oilers on December 16, 2018, 09:03:36 PM
Sad to read, but is just another sign of the times.

I stayed there for SAAC Conventions #5 and #8 and #11,  and on many other occasions, too.   

Before the Hyatt was built, however, The Dearborn Inn was the go-to hotel for Ford execs, suppliers and the press.  Maybe a few "Mahogany Row" escorts too.  The D.I. was/is literally across the street from the Dearborn Proving Grounds. 

The Hyatt is closer to The Glass House.  (And a part of the giant property backs up to Henry's Fairlane estate.)

But the D.I. always had a cool old school Dearborn vibe.
Title: Re: Dearborn Convention Hotel
Post by: Bigfoot on December 16, 2018, 09:27:06 PM
Let's just do a convention at WGI again where attendance is good, hotels/motels abound, and the track is a draw, and the track facilities are big enough to also provide for concours.

Or Pocono where the water slide amenities (at Kalahari) were a "family" draw.

Without a really good host hotel and really good attendance where are we....?
Title: Re: Dearborn Convention Hotel
Post by: Ldouble619 on December 16, 2018, 09:36:41 PM
Quote from: Bigfoot on December 16, 2018, 09:27:06 PM
Let's just do a convention at WGI again where attendance is good, hotels/motels abound, and the track is a draw, and the track facilities are big enough to also provide for concours.

Or Pocono where the water slide amenities (at Kalahari) were a "family" draw.

Without a really good host hotel and really good attendance where are we....?

Or somewhere new.....  Like Sebring!!!
Title: Re: Dearborn Convention Hotel
Post by: Coralsnake on December 17, 2018, 07:28:23 AM
I hear the forum has thousands of members in Florida!
Title: Re: Dearborn Convention Hotel
Post by: kjspeed on December 17, 2018, 09:06:18 AM
Quote from: Coralsnake on December 17, 2018, 07:28:23 AM
I hear the forum has thousands of members in Florida!


The promotional boost a Florida convention would get from FL SAAC TONY is reason enough to have it down here! And who doesn't want to come to sunny FLA in July??
Title: Re: Dearborn Convention Hotel
Post by: shelbydoug on December 17, 2018, 12:43:38 PM
Quote from: kjspeed on December 17, 2018, 09:06:18 AM
Quote from: Coralsnake on December 17, 2018, 07:28:23 AM
I hear the forum has thousands of members in Florida!


The promotional boost a Florida convention would get from FL SAAC TONY is reason enough to have it down here! And who doesn't want to come to sunny FLA in July??

A nice spring day in February might work?
Title: Re: Dearborn Convention Hotel
Post by: griffin289trips on December 17, 2018, 04:03:23 PM
Oh well, Dearborn. I fondly remember the elevator races in their lobby.  And the out of control speeders on the interstate behind the hotel. And Dearborn police getting upset over bottle rockets exploding all over that interstate. Also the late night high speed run to Dearborn on the PA and Ohio turnpike. Getting there was half the fun and quick. All the conventions I attended were priceless.
Title: Re: Dearborn Convention Hotel
Post by: Bigfoot on December 17, 2018, 08:34:37 PM
Quote from: Ldouble619 on December 16, 2018, 09:36:41 PM
Quote from: Bigfoot on December 16, 2018, 09:27:06 PM
Let's just do a convention at WGI again where attendance is good, hotels/motels abound, and the track is a draw, and the track facilities are big enough to also provide for concours.

Or Pocono where the water slide amenities (at Kalahari) were a "family" draw.

Without a really good host hotel and really good attendance where are we....?

Or somewhere new.....  Like Sebring!!!

Why not!
Title: Re: Dearborn Convention Hotel
Post by: Don Johnston on December 17, 2018, 09:29:39 PM

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And who doesn't want to come to sunny FLA in July??
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Those out in the sunny Pacific or sunny left coast?  But then maybe it is Floridays turn though a long drive for many.
Title: Re: Dearborn Convention Hotel
Post by: 427heaven on December 17, 2018, 09:51:34 PM
The question needs to be asked how many miles are people willing to travel to these venues? It appears the old folks don't want to travel much more then 100-250 miles. That cuts out many from participating. :-[
Title: Re: Dearborn Convention Hotel
Post by: Steve McDonald Formally known as Mcdonas on December 17, 2018, 11:16:10 PM
I put my limit at about 1500-2,000 miles
Title: Re: Dearborn Convention Hotel
Post by: QuickSilverShelby on December 18, 2018, 12:10:57 AM
How about a Florida convention in March or April?  Living up here in the Great White North would pretty much guarantee that I would go to a March/April Florida convention.

QSS
Title: Re: Dearborn Convention Hotel
Post by: shelbydoug on December 18, 2018, 08:07:01 AM
Quote from: 427heaven on December 17, 2018, 09:51:34 PM
The question needs to be asked how many miles are people willing to travel to these venues? It appears the old folks don't want to travel much more then 100-250 miles. That cuts out many from participating. :-[

It's more an issue of how far do want to drive your old car? Just because we now have a higher number of cars in Florida because of retiree's, what makes you think 1) those folks will attend 2) they will bring their cars?

A Florida convention is just a roll of the dice. Is there a place they can park their walkers and is there a Shelby version that can be shown in Concourse?
Title: Re: Dearborn Convention Hotel
Post by: QuickSilverShelby on December 18, 2018, 09:43:23 AM
Quote from: shelbydoug on December 18, 2018, 08:07:01 AM
Quote from: 427heaven on December 17, 2018, 09:51:34 PM
The question needs to be asked how many miles are people willing to travel to these venues? It appears the old folks don't want to travel much more then 100-250 miles. That cuts out many from participating. :-[

It's more an issue of how far do want to drive your old car? Just because we now have a higher number of cars in Florida because of retiree's, what makes you think 1) those folks will attend 2) they will bring their cars?

A Florida convention is just a roll of the dice. Is there a place they can park their walkers and is there a Shelby version that can be shown in Concourse?
This looks concourse.

QSS

Title: Re: Dearborn Convention Hotel
Post by: kjspeed on December 18, 2018, 09:47:00 AM
As one of the three SAAC members living in Florida  ;)  I think it would be great to have the national convention here, but I can certainly understand that a national event needs to be located somewhere that will draw a significant number of cars and participants. Maybe a regional event down here is more practical?

Although the Florida Region advertises exponentially more events than any other region, they are mostly centered in South Florida and very few are Shelby related. Those that are seem to be geared for the newer models.

According to the current SAAC Member directory, there are 122 SAAC members in Florida including a Director. I know of a few other classic Shelby owners down here that aren't members, so it seems there are at least enough people to populate a small event. I think an event in the spring or fall would draw a few out-of-staters as well. I would be curious to see what kind of interest there is and what impediments there are to organizing such an event.

~Kevin
Title: Re: Dearborn Convention Hotel
Post by: shelbydoug on December 18, 2018, 10:36:05 AM
Quote from: kjspeed on December 18, 2018, 09:47:00 AM
As one of the three SAAC members living in Florida  ;)  I think it would be great to have the national convention here, but I can certainly understand that a national event needs to be located somewhere that will draw a significant number of cars and participants. Maybe a regional event down here is more practical?

Although the Florida Region advertises exponentially more events than any other region, they are mostly centered in South Florida and very few are Shelby related. Those that are seem to be geared for the newer models.

According to the current SAAC Member directory, there are 122 SAAC members in Florida including a Director. I know of a few other classic Shelby owners down here that aren't members, so it seems there are at least enough people to populate a small event. I think an event in the spring or fall would draw a few out-of-staters as well. I would be curious to see what kind of interest there is and what impediments there are to organizing such an event.

~Kevin

At this point in SAAC's history, this should be seriously looked at and not casually dismissed. Timing is important all things considered. You've got weather to deal with.

Charlotte was done in the summer. I do remember walking around the outside of the track with the big "current temperature sign" showing 102...but "it's a dry heat", but so is a pizza oven?

How about "spring break" timing? I want to see if I'm mistaken for a college student on the beach?