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Title: Detailed look at Holman-Moody '67 Mustang Race Car
Post by: propayne on May 20, 2020, 07:55:10 PM
If you like '60s era NASCAR style Grand American/Trans-Am race cars and you've got 30 minutes to kill -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVlKS-cjKBw&feature=youtu.be

- Phillip
Title: Re: Detailed look at Holman-Moody '67 Mustang Race Car
Post by: TJinSA on May 20, 2020, 08:34:33 PM
With so much attention to detail, why did they lose it with the engine and air cleaner (being both very obvious things)?
Title: Re: Detailed look at Holman-Moody '67 Mustang Race Car
Post by: Bob Gaines on May 20, 2020, 09:26:58 PM
It looks like early 70's TA modifacations .
Title: Re: Detailed look at Holman-Moody '67 Mustang Race Car
Post by: 1109RWHP on May 20, 2020, 10:45:42 PM
I guess the air cleaner is a result of the much newer era intake being so high. I never knew they built Mustangs in Peru.
Title: Re: Detailed look at Holman-Moody '67 Mustang Race Car
Post by: propayne on May 20, 2020, 10:50:57 PM
According to the vid - a Peru built street Mustang was modified by H-M in '71 to Trans-Am specs.

I too didn't realize they built Mustangs in Peru in '67.

Apparently only notchbacks.

Have I mentioned how I love those '60s era NASCAR steel wheels?  ;D

The set on this car certainly look genuine.

- Phillip
Title: Re: Detailed look at Holman-Moody '67 Mustang Race Car
Post by: 1109RWHP on May 20, 2020, 11:01:05 PM
I would like to get a copy of the 71 Peru T/A spec book. Must be a lot different than ours.
Title: Re: Detailed look at Holman-Moody '67 Mustang Race Car
Post by: Royce Peterson on May 21, 2020, 10:00:47 AM
The stupid 1990's era Yates 366 under the hood is just so wrong.
Title: Re: Detailed look at Holman-Moody '67 Mustang Race Car
Post by: shelbydoug on May 21, 2020, 10:41:09 AM
Quote from: Royce Peterson on May 21, 2020, 10:00:47 AM
The stupid 1990's era Yates 366 under the hood is just so wrong.

+1. I agree.

I would think that they were probably iron GT40 heads? I doubt that all of that braided metallic hose and AN fittings was original either?

You can't claim that you can't find a set either. Curt Voght at Cobra Automotive had a bunch recast.

I would think that it should also be a 2x4 Holley C60A t/a manifold also?

There are a lot of things "wrong" with it. It's more of a "tribute" car then a restoration.
Title: Re: Detailed look at Holman-Moody '67 Mustang Race Car
Post by: 68gtcoupe on May 21, 2020, 11:51:48 AM
Quote from: Royce Peterson on May 21, 2020, 10:00:47 AM
The stupid 1990's era Yates 366 under the hood is just so wrong.

Totally agree with you Royce.  Why???   ::)

Title: Re: Detailed look at Holman-Moody '67 Mustang Race Car
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on May 21, 2020, 07:14:14 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on May 21, 2020, 10:41:09 AM
Quote from: Royce Peterson on May 21, 2020, 10:00:47 AM
The stupid 1990's era Yates 366 under the hood is just so wrong.

+1. I agree.

I would think that they were probably iron GT40 heads? I doubt that all of that braided metallic hose and AN fittings was original either?

You can't claim that you can't find a set either. Curt Voght at Cobra Automotive had a bunch recast.

I would think that it should also be a 2x4 Holley C60A t/a manifold also?

There are a lot of things "wrong" with it. It's more of a "tribute" car then a restoration.
1971 specs says Boss 302 to me
Title: Re: Detailed look at Holman-Moody '67 Mustang Race Car
Post by: 1109RWHP on May 26, 2020, 12:37:34 AM
More on the Mustang
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jddpl-7dqEI

Title: Re: Detailed look at Holman-Moody '67 Mustang Race Car
Post by: The Going Thing on May 26, 2020, 03:16:51 AM
This car is beautiful and sounds much better than this "thing"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU26_YNK9vA
Title: Re: Detailed look at Holman-Moody '67 Mustang Race Car
Post by: shelbydoug on May 26, 2020, 06:37:12 AM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on May 21, 2020, 07:14:14 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on May 21, 2020, 10:41:09 AM
Quote from: Royce Peterson on May 21, 2020, 10:00:47 AM
The stupid 1990's era Yates 366 under the hood is just so wrong.

+1. I agree.

I would think that they were probably iron GT40 heads? I doubt that all of that braided metallic hose and AN fittings was original either?

You can't claim that you can't find a set either. Curt Voght at Cobra Automotive had a bunch recast.

I would think that it should also be a 2x4 Holley C60A t/a manifold also?

There are a lot of things "wrong" with it. It's more of a "tribute" car then a restoration.
1971 specs says Boss 302 to me

Those heads and intake manifold are not '70s items. More like 1980's "Motorsport" items.

1970 is kind of early for braided metallic hose and AN fittings to be in common use.

It's a nice car but in my view not an accurate restoration.

It doesn't really matter since it isn't for sale and I'm not bickering with the owner over misrepresented details but it would appear that it wasn't built for resale, just for owner satisfaction and there isn't anything wrong with that at all.
Title: Re: Detailed look at Holman-Moody '67 Mustang Race Car
Post by: Royce Peterson on June 02, 2020, 01:40:17 PM
Actually they are Yates cylinder heads. They were first developed in 1990 and generally available to other Ford Nascar teams in 1991. I don't know when you could buy them as a non - Nascar Ford team owner but I would guess sometime after 1995.

https://roushyatesmfg.com/robert-yates/ (https://roushyatesmfg.com/robert-yates/)


Quote from: shelbydoug on May 26, 2020, 06:37:12 AM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on May 21, 2020, 07:14:14 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on May 21, 2020, 10:41:09 AM
Quote from: Royce Peterson on May 21, 2020, 10:00:47 AM
The stupid 1990's era Yates 366 under the hood is just so wrong.

+1. I agree.

I would think that they were probably iron GT40 heads? I doubt that all of that braided metallic hose and AN fittings was original either?

You can't claim that you can't find a set either. Curt Voght at Cobra Automotive had a bunch recast.

I would think that it should also be a 2x4 Holley C60A t/a manifold also?

There are a lot of things "wrong" with it. It's more of a "tribute" car then a restoration.
1971 specs says Boss 302 to me

Those heads and intake manifold are not '70s items. More like 1980's "Motorsport" items.

1970 is kind of early for braided metallic hose and AN fittings to be in common use.

It's a nice car but in my view not an accurate restoration.

It doesn't really matter since it isn't for sale and I'm not bickering with the owner over misrepresented details but it would appear that it wasn't built for resale, just for owner satisfaction and there isn't anything wrong with that at all.
Title: Re: Detailed look at Holman-Moody '67 Mustang Race Car
Post by: shelbydoug on June 02, 2020, 04:54:11 PM
Quote from: Royce Peterson on June 02, 2020, 01:40:17 PM
Actually they are Yates cylinder heads. They were first developed in 1990 and generally available to other Ford Nascar teams in 1991. I don't know when you could buy them as a non - Nascar Ford team owner but I would guess sometime after 1995.

https://roushyatesmfg.com/robert-yates/ (https://roushyatesmfg.com/robert-yates/)

I'd have to get closer to id them. I have an early set of A3 heads (82 castings) and except for the three long, one short head bolts, they look the same to me from a distance.

Quote from: shelbydoug on May 26, 2020, 06:37:12 AM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on May 21, 2020, 07:14:14 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on May 21, 2020, 10:41:09 AM
Quote from: Royce Peterson on May 21, 2020, 10:00:47 AM
The stupid 1990's era Yates 366 under the hood is just so wrong.

+1. I agree.

I would think that they were probably iron GT40 heads? I doubt that all of that braided metallic hose and AN fittings was original either?

You can't claim that you can't find a set either. Curt Voght at Cobra Automotive had a bunch recast.

I would think that it should also be a 2x4 Holley C60A t/a manifold also?

There are a lot of things "wrong" with it. It's more of a "tribute" car then a restoration.
1971 specs says Boss 302 to me

Those heads and intake manifold are not '70s items. More like 1980's "Motorsport" items.

1970 is kind of early for braided metallic hose and AN fittings to be in common use.

It's a nice car but in my view not an accurate restoration.

It doesn't really matter since it isn't for sale and I'm not bickering with the owner over misrepresented details but it would appear that it wasn't built for resale, just for owner satisfaction and there isn't anything wrong with that at all.
Title: Re: Detailed look at Holman-Moody '67 Mustang Race Car
Post by: FL SAAC on June 28, 2020, 03:54:46 PM
Very kool