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Started by papa scoops, October 16, 2018, 08:30:40 PM

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papa scoops

anyone know where J2 is or was parted it out? are there any photos of it wrecked (I saw one from the "old site) long ago...phred

98SVT - was 06GT

#1
From what I heard it was destroyed because they couldn't upgrade the reinforcements in that chassis. There is a guy who has built a replica from the original prints.
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SFM5S000

There was one at the Cobra Experience in Martinez (Drew Serb's place).  I didn't take a pic from the front and the display board. So I couldn't say what chassis this one was. This was during SAAC 43.

~Earl J


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#3
Quote from: papa scoops on October 16, 2018, 08:30:40 PM
anyone know where J2 is or was parted it out? are there any photos of it wrecked (I saw one from the "old site) long ago...phred

My notes have it listed as destroyed after the Miles fatal wreck. I've only seen two photos of it, this one gets around a lot.
I've never seen the wreck photos, not sure I want to.
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Richstang

Quote from: SFM5S000 on October 16, 2018, 09:04:13 PM
There was one at the Cobra Experience in Martinez (Drew Serb's place).  I didn't take a pic from the front and the display board. So I couldn't say what chassis this one was. This was during SAAC 43.

~Earl J

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Quote from: Richstang on October 16, 2018, 10:40:00 PM
Quote from: papa scoops on October 16, 2018, 08:30:40 PM
anyone know where J2 is or was parted it out? are there any photos of it wrecked (I saw one from the "old site) long ago...phred

My notes have it listed as destroyed after the Miles fatal wreck. I've only seen two photos of it, this one gets around a lot.
I've never seen the wreck photos, not sure I want to.

I don't recall ever seeing any pictures. I've talked to  a few former Holman-Moody personnel that said they worked on the project and no one will say what caused the wreck. All have said the crash was so extensive that there was no way of knowing if there was a mechanical failure.
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Quote from: Richstang on October 16, 2018, 10:40:00 PM
Quote from: papa scoops on October 16, 2018, 08:30:40 PM
anyone know where J2 is or was parted it out? are there any photos of it wrecked (I saw one from the "old site) long ago...phred

My notes have it listed as destroyed after the Miles fatal wreck. I've only seen two photos of it, this one gets around a lot.
I've never seen the wreck photos, not sure I want to.

    I saw the wrecked remains at Holman Moody in 1977 when I was there. It was outside in a fenced off area next to the storage hangar. I could not ( and didn't want to ) get close to it. There was no mistaking the rear portion of the car as J2. I do not know what happened to the tub after I saw it. There was also a wrecked Mustang ( Les Ritchey rip) was killed in it. It too vanished soon after I was there.
    Randy
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98SVT - was 06GT

#7
Quote from: gt350hr on October 17, 2018, 10:43:01 AM
There was also a wrecked Mustang ( Les Ritchey rip) was killed in it. It too vanished soon after I was there.
    Randy
People forget the contribution that Les Ritchey made to SA. He built/modified all the drag cars for them until his death.  I grew up in Covina and it was a hotbed of car stuff. Les Ritchey built the engines for Gas Rhonda and it's said he moved to Russ Davis Ford to be near his engine builder. Ritchey also got his parts made local. Belanger Headers was just down the street from him.
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I have this photo in my files (might have been on the old forum ?) marked as Bruce Mclaren in J1 at Riverside tests March '66.

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RIP Ken Miles

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Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on October 16, 2018, 08:58:11 PM
From what I heard it was destroyed because they couldn't upgrade the reinforcements in that chassis. There is a guy who has built a replica from the original prints.

I have one more pic of it I took that day:

Thanks,
Brian R. Glover
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6R07mi

Quote from: honker on October 17, 2018, 08:45:44 PM
I have this photo in my files (might have been on the old forum ?) marked as Bruce Mclaren in J1 at Riverside tests March '66.

That's defiantly J1, the scoop is different on J2.

jim p
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TransamEd

Info from Dr. John Craft on the B302 Forum in 2004 about his visit at HM back then..

"...the remains of the Ken Miles J Car(in which he died at Riverside), the remains of the Les Ritchie AFX Mustang... and the remains of the Fireball Roberts '64 H&M Galaxie (in which he was horribly burned at the World 600 in May 1964). When Ford cut H&M loose at the end of the '70 season (via letter dated 12/2/1970), they transfered ownership of the hulks to H&M.  Per Lee Holman, the cars were ultimately cut up. "

98SVT - was 06GT

Quote from: TransamEd on October 18, 2018, 03:57:05 PM
Info from Dr. John Craft on the B302 Forum in 2004 about his visit at HM back then..

"...the remains of the Ken Miles J Car(in which he died at Riverside), the remains of the Les Ritchie AFX Mustang... and the remains of the Fireball Roberts '64 H&M Galaxie (in which he was horribly burned at the World 600 in May 1964). When Ford cut H&M loose at the end of the '70 season (via letter dated 12/2/1970), they transfered ownership of the hulks to H&M.  Per Lee Holman, the cars were ultimately cut up. "
Interesting west coast wrecks ended up in the east? I wonder if Ford hired HM to do forensics on the crashes.
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