Put together a new guide here on the toploader transmissions.
Click on link below:
http://anghelrestorations.com/uploads/3/5/1/2/35122002/toploader_67_to_73_1.4_opt.pdf (http://anghelrestorations.com/uploads/3/5/1/2/35122002/toploader_67_to_73_1.4_opt.pdf)
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Good stuff as usual Marcus
Very nice! But you may want to add the 67 GT 500 tail housing, C6OR-7A040-D as well.
I will need to look and see what I can find on my side on that one and update if needed. I did not show a C6OR-7A040-D being used. Would be good if others can comment on that as well.
Here is the listing for it in the 1968 Ford High Performance catalog.
Quote from: anghelrestorations on June 01, 2021, 05:58:47 PM
................ Would be good if others can comment on that as well.
Couple more showing that tail shaft housings. Both of these were also from RUG-S transmissions
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/15/6-010621213249.jpeg)
The transmission I posted pictures of, is out of #591. So, maybe later '67 GT500s used a C7 housing as well.?.?
Chris
So it looks like the 68 Performance Catalog shows the C7 and not the C6 being used in Mustangs. But thats also hand written information I see posted in there.
And also thats for 1968 and not for 1967 model year as per that book.
The two I posted were both from RUG-S out of 68 cars
I have some more RUG-S here I can check, thanks for the cool pdf Marcus.
Quote from: anghelrestorations on June 02, 2021, 02:38:42 AM
So it looks like the 68 Performance Catalog shows the C7 and not the C6 being used in Mustangs. But thats also hand written information I see posted in there.
And also thats for 1968 and not for 1967 model year as per that book.
The handwritten notes are proof of use, for me so I don't have to remember everything😉, from original transmissions I have from my 67 Shelby and 69 428 Mach 1. The 68 Performance catalog does not list any large output housing for a 67 Mustang, just 68-on. So.?.? I know the transmission I have is original and clearly Jeff has pictures of the C6OR-D housing being used in some 67-68 Mustangs/Shelbys as well.
More pictures of #591 trans. This particular Shelby trans has the C5AR input bearing retainer instead of the C6AR also. Just another running change. 🙄
Took this yesterday from my 67 GT350.
Quote from: Hockeylife on June 04, 2021, 11:25:52 AM
Took this yesterday from my 67 GT350.
is yours a "HEH BX " unit?
Quote from: Hockeylife on June 04, 2021, 11:25:52 AM
Took this yesterday from my 67 GT350.
You might have seen that number around on other parts of your car. Would have been the second rotation number assigned to the car for the last "half" of the assembly process. Something San Jose did on a pretty regular basis and as mentioned I believe in the basic transmission paint mark publication a couple of weeks back on this site
Quote from: Hockeylife on June 04, 2021, 08:20:35 PM
Does this answer your question?
Not JD but the tag on the opposite side would answer which transmission it is. Picture shows the details of just the main case of the transmission shared by many different ones
Quote from: J_Speegle on June 04, 2021, 08:45:36 PM
Quote from: Hockeylife on June 04, 2021, 08:20:35 PM
Does this answer your question?
Not JD but the tag on the opposite side would answer which transmission it is. Picture shows the details of just the main case of the transmission shared by many different ones
Ok, try again. Correct VIN on bottom, along with big yellow 3.
Quote from: Hockeylife on June 04, 2021, 09:17:49 PM
Ok, try again. Correct VIN on bottom, along with big yellow 3.
That's it RUG N
Adds another to the pictures and spreadsheets :)
Thanks guys "Hockeylife" and Jeff.
That's it - OK so it has the RUG N unit, so can you say what the SJ (San Jose) build date of your car was?
Trying to determine when the change from the HEH BX to the RUG in the small blocks started. It seems to be later than previously thought.
Quote from: JD on June 04, 2021, 10:41:14 PM
Thanks guys "Hockeylife" and Jeff.
That's it - OK so it has the RUG N unit, so can you say what the SJ (San Jose) build date of your car was?
Trying to determine when the change from the HEH BX to the RUG in the small blocks started. It seems to be later than previously thought.
5/5/67
Quote from: Hockeylife on June 04, 2021, 11:41:31 PM
5/5/67
Thanks.
Can't make out the last digit in the transmission tag number. Might it be a "7" ?
RUG N 1
Hockylife, Thanks again. Were asking about the serial number, the second line of numbers below the model type (RUG N 1) on the riveted Transmission tag.
Jeff, I think it's a "7" too.
Quote from: JD on June 05, 2021, 08:14:09 AM
Hockylife, Thanks again. Were asking about the serial number, the second line of numbers below the model type (RUG N 1) on the riveted Transmission tag.
Jeff, I think it's a "7" too.
Sorry, forgive my cellphone pic taking. Once again...
BEAUTIFUL - Thanks
GT350 2974 built 6/07/67 RUG N 1 Ser.010845
^^^ Thanks!! (Very interesting almost a month apart by build date, but 38 transmission numbers apart )
Quote from: Hockeylife on June 04, 2021, 11:25:52 AM
Took this yesterday from my 67 GT350.
Yes, found it on mine as well. It allowed me to figure out the rear valance numbers too as they were really hard to see.
Ignore the black spray bomb everywhere. PO had a thing for SG. But it did save some marks that might have otherwise degraded.
Updated version now adds reference to the C6OR-7A040-D on page 4.
http://anghelrestorations.com/uploads/3/5/1/2/35122002/toploader_67_to_73_1.4_opt.pdf (http://anghelrestorations.com/uploads/3/5/1/2/35122002/toploader_67_to_73_1.4_opt.pdf)