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Title: Part Change Dates
Post by: ramrace on February 14, 2019, 12:33:58 PM
Regarding Coucours judging, if your car was sent to SA in mid June 1965 and finished in late June 1965, and Ford went from L7 to L8 in June 1965 (Mannel Book), are both L7 and L8 changes acceptable?  Specifically speaking about timing chain cover and water pump.
Title: Re: Part Change Dates
Post by: ramrace on February 14, 2019, 12:39:13 PM
Page 5-3.
Title: Re: Part Change Dates
Post by: Brant on February 14, 2019, 12:44:37 PM
Based on my research, by that time, the car would have a cast iron water pump.
Title: Re: Part Change Dates
Post by: ramrace on February 15, 2019, 12:12:08 AM
Thanks for responding Brant.  Hope some of the other judges will offer their opinions.  Also, should the timing chain cover be the 7 rib or 2 rib style?

Title: Re: Part Change Dates
Post by: NC TRACKRAT on February 15, 2019, 08:28:23 AM
Not a judge but I can offer this example:  I owned a '65 Metuchen HiPo GT Pony interior fastback produced in late June '65 and it, too, had a cast iron water pump.
Title: Re: Part Change Dates
Post by: Brant on February 15, 2019, 10:32:15 AM
Quote from: ramrace on February 15, 2019, 12:12:08 AM
Thanks for responding Brant.  Hope some of the other judges will offer their opinions.  Also, should the timing chain cover be the 7 rib or 2 rib style?
You would have the timing cover with 7 ribs. They are dated.


Title: Re: Part Change Dates
Post by: ramrace on February 15, 2019, 11:55:23 AM
Thank you both for responding.
Title: Re: Part Change Dates
Post by: J_Speegle on February 15, 2019, 06:08:21 PM
Quote from: ramrace on February 14, 2019, 12:33:58 PM
..................if your car was sent to SA in mid June 1965 and finished in late June 1965, and Ford went from L7 to L8 in June 1965 (Mannel Book), are both L7 and L8 changes acceptable?  Specifically speaking about timing chain cover and water pump.

When was the engine built? Believe that would be the guiding or at least more solid factor
Title: Re: Part Change Dates
Post by: Bob Gaines on February 15, 2019, 07:12:59 PM
Quote from: ramrace on February 15, 2019, 12:12:08 AM
Thanks for responding Brant.  Hope some of the other judges will offer their opinions.  Also, should the timing chain cover be the 7 rib or 2 rib style?
I am of the same opinion as Brant.
Title: Re: Part Change Dates
Post by: Bigfoot on February 15, 2019, 09:02:02 PM
These 65 cars had 2 different water pumps and the one will not bolt on in the place of the other based on bolt hole locations. Is that correct or are there more variables and varieties?
Title: Re: Part Change Dates
Post by: Bob Gaines on February 15, 2019, 09:37:48 PM
Quote from: Bigfoot on February 15, 2019, 09:02:02 PM
These 65 cars had 2 different water pumps and the one will not bolt on in the place of the other based on bolt hole locations. Is that correct or are there more variables and varieties?
The aluminum  waterpump will not fit the same timing cover as the one designed for the C5 cast iron waterpump. Yes there are also C6 and C8 cast iron waterpump varieties that will fit on the same timing cover as the C5 cast iron waterpump.
Title: Re: Part Change Dates
Post by: Bigfoot on February 15, 2019, 09:40:30 PM
Thnx Bob,..so what is the date change or car # change roughly?
Title: Re: Part Change Dates
Post by: Bob Gaines on February 15, 2019, 10:22:48 PM
Quote from: Bigfoot on February 15, 2019, 09:40:30 PM
Thnx Bob,..so what is the date change or car # change roughly?
Roughly June of 1965.
Title: Re: Part Change Dates
Post by: ramrace on February 15, 2019, 10:56:31 PM
Engine build date 5F1.  Guess that answers the question. Thanks.
Title: Re: Part Change Dates
Post by: J_Speegle on February 15, 2019, 10:58:47 PM
Quote from: ramrace on February 15, 2019, 10:56:31 PM
Engine build date 5F1.  Guess that answers the question. Thanks.

Yep - :)