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"..........Well you have moved from never ever   to conceding that it works in some situations. That is the point I was trying to make by suggesting it wasn't prudent to eliminate that switch all together as a possible remedy in some cases (not all).  I rest my case your honor.  

I do love a parade.


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Bob, this isn't the first time we are at odds with each other  over the 160 degree thermostat use, and I imagine it won't be the last time. Our positions are very unlikely to ever be modified by what the other guy is saying.

So lets shake hands, and come out swingin'

with limited running time, like in a parade, yes a 160 might help.

But in 99.99% of all cases, once the thermostat has fully opened, the engine doesn't care if it's a 160 or a 190. Overheating at that point has nothing to do with the thermostat, (and you know it). 

Thermostats only set the low point of an engine temperature, never the high point. That's been true since the first one was used, long before either of us was around to observe the results.

Z.

As shelbyDoug mentioned, install a true mechanical temperature gauge, even temporarily. The heat gun is nowhere as accurate as a good mechanical AutoMeter gauge.

Why in heavens name are you using a 160 thermostat.  Millions of 1960's era Fords shipped with the 190-192 series thermostat and they ran beautifully when new, and if assembled correctly, will still run perfectically with the 190 thermostat.

The 160 thermostat is the worst thing you can put in a 289, especially a fresh motor. On short trips the motor oil will not reach operational temperatures, and the water condensate in the oil WILL form a very nice sludge, unless the oil gets hot enough to burn it off. 

I agree with the assessment that a true 210 - 220 F reading taken by a real gauge is not too hot. Do you have a shop manual ?  Reading it will tell you the stock 190 series thermostat doesn't even fully open until 212 plus.

More facts are needed before anyone can help with this issue. Starting with a legitimate temperature reading

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PS. The fine print on the Evans website wil tell you to expect your engine to run somewhat hotter with their product.   For automotive use, I discourage the use of Evans. If your jet engine hydraulics run too hot then go ahead and use it. But in a vintage car, no.

Thanks for the clarification on the. '65's.

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I'm working on a GT500 that has been fitted with MSD ignition, how did the original tach connect to the coil?  Was it connected to the positive or negative side of the coil?
Thanks, Oj

The '65 / '66 GT350's original tachometers did not attach "directly" to either the negative or positive coil terminal. The tach was wired inline between the ignition switch and the coil + terminal.

Isn't the '67 wired the same way ?

The mds tach adaptor needed to make the tach read correctly is the 8920 . You need that if using an MSD box or a MSD ready-to-run distributor, which doesn't require an MSD box, but can be used with one as well.

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Ebay rules prohibit selling a VIN plate without a complete car or shell attached to it.  Anyone bring this eBay's attention yet ?

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I think Jim C did

so did I. Seems like I have to do the same thing every month or two. 50% of the time the auction keeps on going.....

Ebay rules prohibit selling a VIN plate without a complete car or shell attached to it.  Anyone bring this eBay's attention yet ?

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Since those wheels have no nubs for hubcaps it's doubtful if they are from an Econoline. Most vans had dog dish or poverty hubcaps.
From what I've seen while looking for wheels, those are likely from a Crown Vic.

I like the look of the no nub wheels.

Thanks for the clarification, IIRC, my wheels had a 1970's date code.  No longer have the car so I can't be certain.

  +1 on the AVON CR6ZZ's. Great vintage look and loads of performance. No disappointment there.

      I used,  AVON 215/70-15's  on Shelby Cragars and they look killer. No rubbing issues.

      Doug

I've heard from a few people that the 215's were too wide for a 6 inch wheel.  However, my experience seems to fly in the face of that assertion.  The contact patch, traction, and tire wear were all excellent, and identical to the 215 Avons I've had on 7 inch wheels.

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who has run modern radials  with the 15 x 6  steel wheels.   brand ? , size ?,    no clearance issues tire?

I put a set of Avon CR6ZZ tires (215/60-15) on a set of Ford 15x6 wheels with 3 7/8" BS'ing. The car was a '65 K code. I can think of no other suspension improvement for the money that will transform a car so dramatically for the better. Absolutely no rubbing issues,

http://www.avonmotorsport.com/historic/historic/cr6zz

I'm pretty certain a set of 65 profile tires would've fit just fine too. Certainly they would on the '67's.

Z.

PS  single wheel pictured was not the one I used, but has the same backspacing, etc.  mine were likely from a '70's econoline van.

you should have several options, for example , the pcv hose should be hooked up to manifold vacuum.

Z.

I have had good luck with Autolite 45s.

A basic Autolite 45 is all one needs for any 65-67 289 HiPo engine. It is wide range plug that works well in both the supercharged and N/A HiPo 289's. I used them for 25+ years in the 289 HiPo engines in all types of tune, and usage. Both on and off the track.

No need for the pricier  Autolite 45P and 45PP plugs.

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I do t see any convincing argument put forth that makes me want to put the blower on the passenger side. If the whole point is wanting to use a vintage Paxton, cutting up the stock Paxton air box leaves the whole engine bay lookng like crap. Whaereas having the a/c on the passenger side is just going to take longer a/c lines. That's all.

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It might be easier to mount the AC compressor on the other side.

thats the way I've seen it done most of the time (yes, others have gone down that road).  I have one photo of the Paxton on the passenger side, but the carb enclosure is hacked to hell, imho.

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I think Fred is involved in this one, don't know any details.

https://hipo-mustang.com/


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orig blue streak specs

Maybe the size specifications are close, but the tire compound and speed rating don't do justice to the original, so not close specifications where it matters most.

mtc

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