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Title: Hagerty ins. Leaving Ca?
Post by: pchmotoho on March 06, 2023, 12:56:55 PM
I heard a rumor that Hagerty was leaving the Ca. market?  Has anyone else heard anything?
It wouldn't surprise me. Ins companies are massively bailing out of Ca.
Title: Re: Hagerty ins. Leaving Ca?
Post by: TA Coupe on March 07, 2023, 01:54:01 AM
They haven't sent me a notification about it on my car.

         Roy.
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Post by: Coralsnake on March 07, 2023, 05:32:49 AM
Hope they go broke, just my opinion, others may feel differently
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Post by: mgreene on March 07, 2023, 08:15:25 AM
I had Barrett Jackson collectors insurance for the last 10+ years. Was informed late last year that they were no longer insuring cars in Alabama. Went with Parrish, which was about 30% cheaper than Hagerty.
Title: Re: Hagerty ins. Leaving Ca?
Post by: TOBKOB on March 07, 2023, 08:43:39 AM
I don't know about others but I'm pretty happy with Hagerty...9 cars and 2 trailers insured with them... I don't think it's just insurance companies leaving CA.

TOB
Title: Re: Hagerty ins. Leaving Ca?
Post by: Coralsnake on March 07, 2023, 08:50:23 AM
I would highly encourage you to do a little comparison of rates. Grundy or Heacock are probably cheaper.

Hagerty is too busy selling carbon credits to care about their customers
Title: Re: Hagerty ins. Leaving Ca?
Post by: CSX 4133 on March 07, 2023, 09:25:15 AM

Hagerty is a for profit company (as are all insurance companies) if they leave California it's more than likely a business decision. Years ago I did my due diligence and tried to compare rates with Hagerty, Grundy, Heacock and several others. Neither Grundy , nor Heacock replied to my email inquiries. So I went with the company that offered the best over all coverage for my collector cars, race cars when off track, etc.

To date I've never made a claim (knock on wood), because that's when you find out how good your coverage really is.



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Post by: 68stangcjfb on March 07, 2023, 10:20:56 AM
I have Hagerty. When my 1958 Thunderbird was rear-ended by an idiot in traffic, they paid the $16,000 agreed value for the car. No bickering or silly questions asked. When my 1967 Fairlane station wagon got its windshield broken, they paid $521.26. No bickering or silly questions asked. You would think they would get out of Florida because of all the flooding and hurricanes. The carbon credits thing is pretty stupid though considering their clientele. Maybe they want out of California because they think the big one is coming. God forbid!
Title: Re: Hagerty ins. Leaving Ca?
Post by: Coralsnake on March 07, 2023, 10:59:28 AM
Everyone is free to choose

I say compare rates, i think most will be surprised. Why pay the extra money for their carbon credit program?
Title: Re: Hagerty ins. Leaving Ca?
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on March 07, 2023, 11:18:37 AM
I've got Hagerty on 2 cars - no claims.
I don't like that SAAC uses them for convention registration. Bring that back inhouse so I'm not forced to share my info with a 3rd party.
Title: Re: Hagerty ins. Leaving Ca?
Post by: ChicagoChris on March 07, 2023, 12:17:00 PM
CA, MI, TX, NY have the highest collector car population in the US.

Agree CA is a communist state, but I'd be surprised if they stopped doing business in the state.
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Post by: 557 on March 07, 2023, 07:21:08 PM
Chubb....
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Post by: SCJSTU on March 07, 2023, 08:11:34 PM
Hagerty has Wall Street money pouring in it and they are buying up everything related to collector cars ie high end shows  like Amelia and ruining something pure to chase every freaking dollar
Title: Re: Hagerty ins. Leaving Ca?
Post by: JohnSlack on March 08, 2023, 09:58:54 AM
Another point to consider, with all of the good shops extremely busy currently and most are becoming very selective about who they will deal with as far as insurance companies. If you have a favorite place or preferred shop ask the owner if they have had any issues. When my 2010 Mustang GT got hit by an Uber driver last year I took my car into the shop, when discussing the repairs the head guy asked me who the insurance company was? I told him that Allstate was who Uber used, he asked me who I had I told him my insurance information. He told me that if I wanted the car repaired correctly that I should use my insurance and subrogate with Allstate. I then asked him about collector car insurance and told him I had Hagerty. He responded that they are the best to deal with when restoring a car after an accident in his experience by far. So before you choose the cheapest rate ask the guys on the other end.


John
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Post by: rhjanes on March 08, 2023, 10:45:41 AM
Quote from: JohnSlack on March 08, 2023, 09:58:54 AM
Another point to consider, with all of the good shops extremely busy currently and most are becoming very selective about who they will deal with as far as insurance companies. If you have a favorite place or preferred shop ask the owner if they have had any issues. When my 2010 Mustang GT got hit by an Uber driver last year I took my car into the shop, when discussing the repairs the head guy asked me who the insurance company was? I told him that Allstate was who Uber used, he asked me who I had I told him my insurance information. He told me that if I wanted the car repaired correctly that I should use my insurance and subrogate with Allstate. I then asked him about collector car insurance and told him I had Hagerty. He responded that they are the best to deal with when restoring a car after an accident in his experience by far. So before you choose the cheapest rate ask the guys on the other end.


John
I had the exact same conversation with a body repair shop.  Not about collector cars.  I was in my 1999 F250 in a grocery store parking lot when this guy jumped in his Mustang and just put it in reverse and backed into me.  It crunched the fender just behind my front tire.  He seemed nice as we exchanged information but I noted lots of minor damage on his car.  he had some insurance I'd never heard of.  I called my insurance, USAA and just had a "Claim conversation".  Not officially "pressing enter".  Some 4 hours later, the guy calls me and tells me there was no way his car did "all that damage"!!  I tell him that he hit a fender, which is just thin sheet metal to keep from flinging mud and HIS bumper is reinforced.  He mumbled something and we said goodbye.   I hit the disconnect button and called USAA back to open the claim.  The next day I was at their designated body shop to get the estimate and had a similar conversation with the adjuster.  "he has X insurance?  They are hacks.  You are 100 percent doing the right thing, let USAA go after them.  You should....eventually, get the deductible".  He was right!  I just took the payment as the truck was ancient and I was shopping for a new one.  But some 4 MONTHS later (I'd gifted the truck to another family member) the other insurance contacted me with "We don't think our client did all this damage"  "We thank you for all the photos (sent from both me and the claims adjuster) but WE need to now inspect the truck" (WHAT?!?!  4 months after the damage?! They don't think people want to get their vehicles repaired?).  I told them USAA made me whole minus my deductible and they needed to call USAA.  I hung up and called USAA to report the contact.  They held back their laughter....but eventually I got my deductible even paid.  Like the claim adjuster said, "Why these hacks even try this against reputable insurance companies....."
All that said, I believe the collector car insurance companies seem to take care of their clients.  I can't remember reading any major issues with any of them.  But I always caution about shopping insurance based solely on the most inexpensive. 
Title: Re: Hagerty ins. Leaving Ca?
Post by: Rickmustang on March 08, 2023, 11:43:02 AM
What's the name of the hack insurance company?
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Post by: Side-Oilers on March 08, 2023, 05:23:59 PM
I've been with Hagerty for about 30 years. Never made a claim, so they have A LOT of my $$$ saved up  :P for if I ever have to.

Totally agree with the posts above that say to buy quality, not a cheap price, in an insurance company.

Hagerty used to just be some type of middle-man to the actual insurer, and my Hagerty I.D.card does list another company.

Anyone else have this same thing?  What company is listed? I'll go the garage and see what mine says.

BTW:  IMO, the carbon credit/plant a tree snowflake feel-good crap is just starting. Their weekly round-up of articles and surveys have been trending more and more woke.

Ugh.  Just insure my cars and lay off the green agenda.
Title: Re: Hagerty ins. Leaving Ca?
Post by: FL SAAC on March 08, 2023, 05:55:47 PM
Essentia Insurance Company or Markel American Insurance
Title: Re: Hagerty ins. Leaving Ca?
Post by: Side-Oilers on March 08, 2023, 06:39:24 PM
Essentia is listed on my Hagerty policies.
Title: Re: Hagerty ins. Leaving Ca?
Post by: rhjanes on March 08, 2023, 09:07:49 PM
Quote from: Rickmustang on March 08, 2023, 11:43:02 AM
What's the name of the hack insurance company?
It was some 4 years ago now.  I honestly don't remember.  But it wasn't a collector policy on the other person's daily driver.  It wasn't any insurance company I'd ever heard of.  IIRC the adjuster told me that company had some 4 different names they sold policy's under, all cut rate. 
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Post by: shelbymann1970 on March 09, 2023, 08:05:08 AM
I have had 3 claims with Hagerty. They paid in spades. They had no problem paying 1K for a NOS hood molding that I needed(it was on Ebay at the time).
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Post by: JJH on March 09, 2023, 09:21:24 AM
Hagerty customer for almost 20 years...thankfully no claims so nothing to complain about.
Title: Re: Hagerty ins. Leaving Ca?
Post by: FL SAAC on March 09, 2023, 09:26:17 AM
No complaints,  good company